Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

[MatureDJ]

But a hooker / escort? They do not want you. Worse they will make fake noises or what have you pretending they are into you. Your MOJO is greatly affected by this interaction with a filth *****.

Because real girlfriends never fake it?

 

[Robert28]

Nah, some do plenty wrong, some don't. Just like guys. Trying to place "all" people of any group into a one size fits all statement is simply ignorant.

It’s not about placing ALL women into a single category. But you have to keep the mindset of “guilty until proven innocent” when it comes to dealing with women or you’ll get burned.

 

[corrector]

A hooker/escort doesn't want YOU. She is not physically attracted to YOU.

Its about what you want, not what she wants. People who always worry about what women want always have to worry "gee, is she attracted to me, I wonder if I'll make a move" and then get amogged by someone else who is more confident. Just paying for it is worth taking a break out of that mindset.

 

[corrector]

A MASCULINE MAN WANTS TO KEEP HIS MOJO / MASCULINE ENERGY INTACT.

IF A WOMAN IS NOT ATTRACTED TO ME THAT AFFECTS WHAT I WANT AS I WANT A WOMAN WHO IS ATTRACTED TO ME WHICH HARNESSES MY MOJO / MASCULINE ENERGY.

HOW ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF WHAT IS WRITTEN. THE MIND BAFFLES.

WELL NOT REALL. SIMPLS AND INCELS WILL NOT GET THIS.

You are picking the wrong escorts.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I don't agree with this. How am I peaking in my late 20s to mid 30s when my career / income / stability trajectory continues increasing well into the 40s if not later depending on how successful you are. Plus combine the previous with staying fit and having a good head of hair you're basically at the top of the game.

Cause your career wont make your hair grow back or your wrinkles disappear....it wont give you stamina at night either.

The physical/looks component is as important if not more than the others, if you listen to guys in the manosphere then jeff bezos is a 9.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It’s not about placing ALL women into a single category. But you have to keep the mindset of “guilty until proven innocent” when it comes to dealing with women or you’ll get burned.

No you don't. You just simply have to screen better up front and stop being so invested so quickly.

 

[tightsocks]

Cause your career wont make your hair grow back or your wrinkles disappear....it wont give you stamina at night either.

The physical/looks component is as important if not more than the others, if you listen to guys in the manosphere then jeff bezos is a 9.

Your increasing income can allow you to take care of your body even better and help fix those issues that come with aging. The fact is your sperm is completely healthy and you can impregnate a woman while you grow old. I don't agree with the physical/looks component being that important. Women are not visual like men. It is purely the feminine frame that wants men to think they are unattractive once they get older and also that it's "creepy" for an old guy to date a younger girl.

 

[Maxinulm]

A hooker/escort doesn't want YOU. She is not physically attracted to YOU.

There is no masculine / feminine POLARITY and therefor the interaction is lacking an energy that is vital for your
MOJO or MASCULINE ENERGY.

But a hooker / escort? They do not want you. Worse they will make fake noises or what have you pretending they are into you. Your MOJO is greatly affected by this interaction with a filth *****.

Further, paying money to a hooker / escort is the ultimate act of SIMPING AND PUZZY WORSHIP.

Funny how many men here act as if they can have sex anytime with top notch women (optically)

The reality for 95% of members here is, that they may have some women from time to time. But i am sure, that nearly no one here has a steady flow of the top women/sex/sexual acts all the time he wants it! If it would be like that, there would be absolutely no reason to join and write in this community.

So if you want a specific tipe of woman / a specific sex act at a certain time, but cant get it "in the wild", why not pay for it?! Its the same as if you go out and pay for a good meal. You could cook it yourself, and yes this gives a certain kind of satisfaction. But if you dont have all the ingredients and skills ready, why not buy the service?!

Eg you like a special vietnames dish and could buy all the ingredients and herbs and cook it yourself. Or you could just go to a good vietnamese restaurant and buy it. I am not saying its a substitute to cooking yourself generally. But it can be a really nice addition.

I like when a woman i get to know submits and we have good sex and i feel that she gets wet and aroused. But at the same time i have absolutely no problem with getting my b*lls drained and paying for it. I dont need the illusion that she thinks i am the man or that she acts as if she was aroused (have that in private). The fact that shes not attracted to me doesnt matter a tiny bit in this moment. I know what i pay for and what i get. Its fake, but i c*m in reality. Its a service and a good time, that you pay for. If a rich guy buys champagne in the vip area for several thousand euros and bangs a chick at the end of the night, its nothing else. If you take a private girl on vacation because you are such a successfull business man and want company, its the same. If you drive a porsche, get to know a hot girl, drive her around in this car, maybe pay for drinks, you also have payed serveral hundred/thousand dollar for the bang!

Again: No substitute for a real girlfriend/wife. And i am not saying, that a prostitute is the same thing as a normal woman.

And yes i think its important to work on yourself and to acquire skills and be successful/make money as a man. But in the end, chicks dig that, because they want to participate. Be it temporary(for a night/weekend/party) or on the long run (marriage/girlfriend). They always want to have tiny or bigger pieces of the cake. Be it status, a lifestyle or a a provider for her and her offspring. In the end its money.

So why are men shamed for this: I think its because it takes some power away from women. They are the keepers of p*ssy and in the end, thats what all men want and why they strive to be successfull, drive expensive cars...

What would be the point to work excessive hours and ruin your health to be able to buy "useless" luxuries. If it werent to attract females (p*ssy). Imagine you wouldnt have any sex drive at all. You could be driving an old toyota, go surfing/fishing with your male friends, have a nice campfire and enjoy life and would be missing nothing.

 

[zinc4]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

Absolutely zero shame here. I have been with a few and i can confirm it does help teach you that pu@sy isnt sh@t. But it also teaches you to seperate your ego from women/sex. Too many men judge themselves or get too down on themselves based on their success with women. When you have a lot of money though its just like ordering pizza and these women arent anything to base your self image off of.

At their core all women are prostitutes. They drain resources and use it for material things that's just a fact. Even the goodie good ones or religious ones. Women are out to take mens resources. This isn't a hate women rant... i love women.

I just find it incredibly hypocritical that some guys who spend all this time, effort and money wining and dining their oneitis hoping to finally bang her like to rag on a man who just says screw it and orders a few dime piece escorts up instead. With that being said i havent had a pro in years. I have never once regretted my experiences with them though. Had more than one even fall for me a few times and it became a normal fwb type relationship.

 

[zinc4]

paid for it in thailand during my early twenties, was useful as brought me out of my shell with women. plus in thailand its a bit more of a g/f experience, rather than pay for 1 hour.

had a couple of escorts after divorce was drunk, but didn't enjoy it all. sex with no connection, plus paying made it feel completely hollow and almost worthless to me. fair enough if people get more out of it. would just prefer a w**k tbh.

problem in UK is most escorts look like druggies, or rough looking porn stars or scraggly romanian women...even higher priced ones, so coupled with fact you know they've slept with loads of other men, really isn't a turn on for me. may be different if more normal/every day looking ones were available.

The escort scene in Thailand is on another level for sure. Lots of undercover pros there as well pose as college students at discos and nightclubs. I had an incredible time there about 10 years ago. Pros in the US suck compared to that experience...feels mechanical asf and way too over priced.

I used to shore pros in Thailand frequently. Shoring means banging them for free and just get them a few drinks at a normal nightclub or bar just like you would for any other girl. And it was/is very cheap there. Obviously you need looks and some game to pull this off though but i had gotten pretty good at it by the time i left or if they demanded i would just swing them $20 for "taxi money" sometimes the next morning. Here in las vegas the escort scene is god awful. You are going to be paying anywhere from $200 if the girl likes you up to $1500 and its usually some crackhead black chick with a decent looking body but ghetto asf who will bang you in the most mechanical boring non passionate way possible for half an hour or so and will try to mug you as well or take all your stuff. Undercover cops as well. I never mess with that scene over here. Its a complete waste of time and money. Normal women are pretty easy for the most out here anyways.

 

[corrector]

Funny how many men here act as if they can have sex anytime with top notch women (optically)

The reality for 95% of members here is, that they may have some women from time to time. But i am sure, that nearly no one here has a steady flow of the top women/sex/sexual acts all the time he wants it! If it would be like that, there would be absolutely no reason to join and write in this community.

So if you want a specific tipe of woman / a specific sex act at a certain time, but cant get it "in the wild", why not pay for it?! Its the same as if you go out and pay for a good meal. You could cook it yourself, and yes this gives a certain kind of satisfaction. But if you dont have all the ingredients and skills ready, why not buy the service?!

Eg you like a special vietnames dish and could buy all the ingredients and herbs and cook it yourself. Or you could just go to a good vietnamese restaurant and buy it. I am not saying its a substitute to cooking yourself generally. But it can be a really nice addition.

I like when a woman i get to know submits and we have good sex and i feel that she gets wet and aroused. But at the same time i have absolutely no problem with getting my b*lls drained and paying for it. I dont need the illusion that she thinks i am the man or that she acts as if she was aroused (have that in private). The fact that shes not attracted to me doesnt matter a tiny bit in this moment. I know what i pay for and what i get. Its fake, but i c*m in reality. Its a service and a good time, that you pay for. If a rich guy buys champagne in the vip area for several thousand euros and bangs a chick at the end of the night, its nothing else. If you take a private girl on vacation because you are such a successfull business man and want company, its the same. If you drive a porsche, get to know a hot girl, drive her around in this car, maybe pay for drinks, you also have payed serveral hundred/thousand dollar for the bang!

Again: No substitute for a real girlfriend/wife. And i am not saying, that a prostitute is the same thing as a normal woman.

And yes i think its important to work on yourself and to acquire skills and be successful/make money as a man. But in the end, chicks dig that, because they want to participate. Be it temporary(for a night/weekend/party) or on the long run (marriage/girlfriend). They always want to have tiny or bigger pieces of the cake. Be it status, a lifestyle or a a provider for her and her offspring. In the end its money.

So why are men shamed for this: I think its because it takes some power away from women. They are the keepers of p*ssy and in the end, thats what all men want and why they strive to be successfull, drive expensive cars...

What would be the point to work excessive hours and ruin your health to be able to buy "useless" luxuries. If it werent to attract females (p*ssy). Imagine you wouldnt have any sex drive at all. You could be driving an old toyota, go surfing/fishing with your male friends, have a nice campfire and enjoy life and would be missing nothing.

Escorts are much cheaper option compared to having a gold-digger, that's for sure.

 

[corrector]

Any shame I felt from seeing the two escorts in the past was spiritual. I'd have a mental re-imagery of old high school peers laughing at me that I actually went with one because its too far out of character to how I presented myself to them. There were high school peers pressuring me to party or meet girls and have sex and I was opposed to all that. I went to High School in the early 90s and saw the escorts in 2014 and that moment bridged that gap in time in a bad way.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You got some things not yet realized my man. Your analogy is a reach but what he is telling is 100% correct.
Its funny you call people woman haters I remember your thread about you losing your shyt over a chic wanting to leave shortly after getting to your apartment.

Hmmm seems to me maybe you have some issues yourself perhaps.

Everyone has their issues to work on. Anger management is one you should start with.

 

[BriBri]

A very dark secret 80% of women wont tell there man is that secret lesions turn them on like crazy.
See romance novels.

I know you meant 'liaisons', but it was still funny seeing "lesions"......(although some chicks may like a genital wart or two)

 

[Who Dares Win]

Your increasing income can allow you to take care of your body even better and help fix those issues that come with aging. The fact is your sperm is completely healthy and you can impregnate a woman while you grow old. I don't agree with the physical/looks component being that important. Women are not visual like men. It is purely the feminine frame that wants men to think they are unattractive once they get older and also that it's "creepy" for an old guy to date a younger girl.

Of course, they dont value height, hair, muscles and facial simmetry....they only care about your personality and effort.

Millionaire smart guy woody allen is in fact the wet dreams of 19 yrs old hotties.

 

[tightsocks]

Of course, they dont value height, hair, muscles and facial simmetry....they only care about your personality and effort.

Millionaire smart guy woody allen is in fact the wet dreams of 19 yrs old hotties.

Status dominates all other attributes. That is the bottom line.

 

[eli77]

I have a hard time believing this considering men peak later in life around the 30s / 40s / maybe even later if you become extremely successful in a career (C-level executive, etc).

I agree

 

[Who Dares Win]

Status dominates all other attributes. That is the bottom line.

So in your opinion the average 20 yrs hottie you see at the club would rather get railed from elon musk than a random fitness model?

 

[Fruitbat]

So in your opinion the average 20 yrs hottie you see at the club would rather get railed from elon musk than a random fitness model?

Yes. That would involve her gaining possibly worldwide coverage.

If fitness models were all that, you would see male strippers being at the top of the tree. They aren’t. It’s a subservient role. It’s low status.

They might have better sex with the fitness model. Rarely is the quality of the sex the key thing for a woman.

 

[Fruitbat]

Many men whom their wife catches fcking another girl rejuvenates her attraction for her husband because he hasnt become a pethetic pot bellied loser that took himself out of the game. Not saying do it but it happens. Have experienced it myself and seen multiple examples.
Its a RP creed bro

Does this work if I get caught jacking off to other women?