Why appearance(not looks) count

[Delta Male]

My two cents:

Looks are not very important. Your IMAGE is important. The two things are distinct and seperate. Fortunately, while there is not much you can do about your looks outside going to the gym, there is lots you can do to improve your image.

Why do I say this? Well, I have two wings which permanently killed all my limitiing beliefs about looks. The first is EXTREMELY good looking. Six feet tall, blond hair, well built, he could seriously be a model if he wanted to. BUT -- he's not well spoken, and he doesn't have much game. When we go out, the girls barely notice him, and they're attracted to me even though he's better looking.

The second is one of my seduction mentors, Dimitri. He's not good looking at all. But, he has one of the most incredible personalities which I have ever seen. He has about five girlfriends currently, and regularly goes out and gets other girls' numbers. When I'm in a set with him, its the exact opposite scenario as before -- the girls barely notice me, even though I'm better looking than him.

And the weird thing is -- girls can tell that Dimitri is attractive, while my other wing is not, before they even open their mouths. Like, Dimitri will get girls checking him out all the time in public. My other wing, the good looking one, never will. It's all about the vibe and image you present, which is the product of your inner beliefs. This is manifested in your body language, facial expressions, voice, grooming, style, etc.

So to conclude -- if anybody reading this thread thinks that he's not getting laid because he's cursed with bad genes, think again. That's just an excuse you're using to justify your failure. Anybody can get laid with beautiful women, if they're not lazy and are out there doing 20+ approaches per week, for two or three years. Good teaching can speed up this progress a lot, but the most important thing is that you're out the field getting rejected over and over again, being persistant, and improving your skills.

-Dan

http://www.rapidsocialimpact.com

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Sorry kid, women look for masculinity in a man not his body - only hors look at the body as the primary attraction!!!

Men, on the other hand, are attracted to a woman's body/look - this is what makes us INITIATE!!!! This is nature!!!!!!

Men don't wear their clothes to show their body - but hors do this!!!

Your angle is coming from a corrupted notion of nature - the hor/homo agenda!!!! Turn off yourTV!!!!!!!

Have you been brainwashed by some feminist? Woman are jsut as obsessed about looks/body. It doesn't make them wh0res.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by AMF
Bulking up works if you want to attract trailer trash, hos and bimbos.

Fact: its been shown that overly-muscular men DO NOT do better with women (if anyone wants me to, I'll find the academic study.)

maybe it has something to do with the fact that probably less than 5 % of men could be considered overly muscular

You guys that think women don't like muscle probably also like to believe that they prefer small penis

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by Delta Male
My two cents:

Looks are not very important. Your IMAGE is important. The two things are distinct and seperate. Fortunately, while there is not much you can do about your looks outside going to the gym, there is lots you can do to improve your image.

Why do I say this? Well, I have two wings which permanently killed all my limitiing beliefs about looks. The first is EXTREMELY good looking. Six feet tall, blond hair, well built, he could seriously be a model if he wanted to. BUT -- he's not well spoken, and he doesn't have much game. When we go out, the girls barely notice him, and they're attracted to me even though he's better looking.

The second is one of my seduction mentors, Dimitri. He's not good looking at all. But, he has one of the most incredible personalities which I have ever seen. He has about five girlfriends currently, and regularly goes out and gets other girls' numbers. When I'm in a set with him, its the exact opposite scenario as before -- the girls barely notice me, even though I'm better looking than him.

And the weird thing is -- girls can tell that Dimitri is attractive, while my other wing is not, before they even open their mouths. Like, Dimitri will get girls checking him out all the time in public. My other wing, the good looking one, never will. It's all about the vibe and image you present, which is the product of your inner beliefs. This is manifested in your body language, facial expressions, voice, grooming, style, etc.

So to conclude -- if anybody reading this thread thinks that he's not getting laid because he's cursed with bad genes, think again. That's just an excuse you're using to justify your failure. Anybody can get laid with beautiful women, if they're not lazy and are out there doing 20+ approaches per week, for two or three years. Good teaching can speed up this progress a lot, but the most important thing is that you're out the field getting rejected over and over again, being persistant, and improving your skills.

-Dan

http://www.rapidsocialimpact.com

Awesome. Like I said on my first post,
women are attracted to those who convey higher social value


Look, I think I and others here know themselves well enough to figure that LOOKS alone will not make you successful. But I want to attain a nice physique so I can substantially minimize one obstacle towards bedding beautiful women.

JUST LIKE CONFIDENCE. Achieving consistent self-confidence will remove a major obsticle. Something your good-looking friend is lacking, which is probably the reason he has no game.

Plus, the great thing about having a great body, is you know you look attractive, so you ASSUME that any women you talk to is attracted to you. ASSUMING ATTRACTION is a very powerful mindset that will radiate to others around you.


So why not work out? What would happen to Dimitri's success with women if he had a nice phyisque combined with his strong game? Skyrocket I would assume. I mean, at least if youre friend -is good looking that is one less thing he has to worry about on his journey to a PUA. He can focus more on his game knowing that he has the phsyical aspect taken care of.

So go for it, start lifting weights. Do it for yourself. Say to yourself, that I am doing this to bring down an obsticle towards my success in LIFE, not just WOMEN.

One more thing I want to emphasize,
We dont need to work hard, we just need to work smart

No hard work and dedication could keep the craftsmen in business during the industrial revolution. Now most of the products we buy are made by cost-efficient machines.

So we can make ourselves efficient by LOOKING GOOD, which will supplement our game. We know how to make hammers, just how can we make 500 hammers in one day instead of 50.

 

[Ebach]

Women like men! End of story! Of course society likes money and what not. So objectivity and emotions get mixed and make everything so complex. If it wasn't for society standards, the real man will get the girl and the chicken ****s will watch in amazement.

 

[DJStudent]

You're beating a dead horse.

I got a friend that every girl I knew that was hot saw him as hot too, but his personality stinks more than the smellest cheese. End result, he goes home alone and what's even funnier is that he has all these ugly girls who don't think they're ugly all up in his face. Then when we're talking about girls and stuff, he tells me he doesn't know why girls shows interest and then lose it after they meet him. He gets burned cause he usually sets up a date and they flake. Lol I actually think it's better to be shot down than to get your hopes up and be burnt like that.

If you wanna make something count work on your personality. I

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by spider_007
^^^^^^^^^^ confused and full of s1it.^^^^^^^^^

He only sounds confused and full of sh*t to those here who are fully indoctrinated effeminites who only have 21 years under their belt. Post less and read more.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
Have you been brainwashed by some feminist? Woman are jsut as obsessed about looks/body. It doesn't make them wh0res.

Actually, it's you that sounds brainwashed by feminists.

 

[sstype]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Actually, it's you that sounds brainwashed by feminists.

No one here is fycking brainwashed. This is just a rational assumption that having a NICE BODY ATTRACTS MORE WOMEN THAN AN AVERAGE BODY. I have read PRL's other posts, and most of the stuff he states sounds great on paper, but in PRACTICE, you will still be same off as you were before.

He constantly trashes women as hors and bimbos. I would not be surprised if those same hors and bimbos took their clothes off in front of PRL and he jumped right in the sack with them.

Cause I used to be that way. I used to call the hott girls at my schools the same thing, which probably they were, but did I feel morally justified?

HELL NO!
I knew deep down inside that if I ever had the chance I would sleep with them in an instant.

"He who is without sin, throw the first stone."
PRL tries to portray that he holds the moral high ground, yet he goes against the most fundamental tenet of his faith
DO NOT JUDGE

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by sstype
No one here is fycking brainwashed. This is just a rational assumption. I have read PRL's other posts, and most of the stuff he states sounds great on paper, but in REAL LIFE, it means little.

He constantly trashes women as hors and bimbos. I would not be surprised if those same hors and bimbos took their clothes off in front of PRL and he jumped right in the sack with them.

Cause I used to be that way. I used to call the hott girls at my schools the same thing, which probably they were, but did I feel morally justified?

HELL NO!
I knew deep down inside that if I ever had the chance I would sleep with them in an instant.

"He who is without sin, throw the first stone."
PRL tries to portray that he holds the moral high ground, yet he goes against the most fundamental tenet of his faith
DO NOT JUDGE

Ok, I see your argument.

 

[sstype]

 

[Ricky]

Delta Male you make some great points.

I need to get out and do more approaches. I feel great today because I talked to one hottie that would have disappeared forever had I not grabbed my balls and did it.

We definitely need to hang out. Is the seminar still May 14?

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by Ricky
Delta Male you make some great points.

I need to get out and do more approaches. I feel great today because I talked to one hottie that would have disappeared forever had I not grabbed my balls and did it.

We definitely need to hang out. Is the seminar still May 14?

Awesome, you gonna hook up with her?

 

[siph]

Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by sharpshooter
So a great body is not masculine? I really hope that's not what you're trying to say here. Think of it this way: It shows that you ARE indeed masculine, because you're active, you're a phyiscally fit MAN. Also have you ever met a physically fit dude with a low level of testosterone? So if anything the testosterone levels on guys that work out are way above average. Testosterone is the essence of masculinity.

enough said

sharpshooter im gonna call you on this, any guy who puts on tons of muscle to look good is in essence beautifying himself. it makes sense that there is rampant homosexuality in the male bodybuilding world. thats not saying that putting on some bulk is a bad thing. in fact its one of the best things you can do, just dont go overboard. also defining masculinity is tough because its extremely cultural and even in the animal world there is no hard and fast rule for it. males and females have different roles and different roles based on their evolution. the most you should take from this is that we are social animals and should act in a manner which is considered positive by our society. for instance, i wouldnt go near a buttaface, any girl who pours effort into cultivating a perfect body despite having facial issues is just asking for mental issues. same with a dude, it cries of trying to prove something. this is within boundaries however and I do workout, just not with the intention of become ridiculously swol.
hope that helps

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Haha, you yong guys make me laugh but you are not fooling anyone with your twisted language!! I call a hor a "hor" because that is what she is and I am merely acknowledging her status - nothing more!!!!

I am not passing moral judgment upon her but I am recognizing a thing for what it is!! In absolute terms, I am not morally better than a hor since every woman I had was a hor and I her pimp!!

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Haha, you yong guys make me laugh but you are not fooling anyone with your twisted language!! I call a hor a "hor" because that is what she is and I am merely acknowledging her status - nothing more!!!!

I am not passing moral judgment upon her but I am recognizing a thing for what it is!! In absolute terms, I am not morally better than a hor since every woman I had was a hor and I her pimp!!

Yeah, you are judging man. If it was, for example, an automobile then yes, an AUTOMOBILE is BY DEFINITION what is parked outside of our house. But human beings are not automibles, we are many times more complex than cars.

The vast majority of women WILL never FIT the true scientific definition of a *****. How can you acknowledge them then as hors, when by definition, most do not meet this?

You believe in absolutes, which in the scientific world works fine.
But when dealing with human beings, it is all relative. What you see is not what I or others see.

This is how Jesus thought. When nailed to the cross by the Romans instead of seeing them as they were( blood thirsty murderers), he knew they were just human and called on God to FORGIVE THEM (normal human beings who did not know any better, and needed salvation)

Your mentality is "she's a *****, I am seeing it as it is. Nothing she says or do will ever change my perception of her being a *****, because that is what she is"

YOU ARE JUDGING MY FRIEND. Everyone knows an automobile when they see one. But every HUMAN BEING born is inherently unique, not made off an ASSEMBLY LINE(read Brave New World).
So therefore, we CAN NEVER call a hor a "hor" BECAUSE, DEEP DOWN, SHE MAY NOT BE!

My logic supercedes yours because I don't classify, generalize, and acknowledge something as I see it. I go beyond the glass doors and find the reasoning behind human behavior.
The best assumption I can make about humans is by using CETERIS PARIBUS (All things equal) meaning WITH EXCEPTIONS, humans will react a certain way when this or that happens.

So I am not SAYING that every BIG MUSCLE MAN with no brains will have every women he desires. Nor will they ONLY ATTRACT HORS AND BIMBOS in your view. With exceptions, a great physique will attract MOST women to you automatically. There will be exceptions to this rule. You may be one of them PRL, I have not seen you, you may be skinny as hell or the exact opposite and have laid more women than I have. Great, but not everyone can be an exception. Only a small portion of the SoSuavers on her will proudly say that their GAME, AND GAME ALONE, allowed them to bed women at EASE. The rest of us should have our physical side taken care of...

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why appearance(not looks) count

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Actually, it's you that sounds brainwashed by feminists.

Should I respond to this, or has this already been cleared up by sstype Don Juanabbe?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

DJ sstype, If you want the definitopn of a hor search the thread
"Knock it off!!!!!!!!!!!!" my explanation is there starting on page 3... and yes a hor is defined and you can define a homo a child rapist and a murderer etc...

If you can't accept a hor for what she is then you will suffer the consequences, as we all will if we approach a lion as a kitten!!!!!

Women see men as attractive on many levels but their bodies is not their main determinant as it is with a man -- it is us men who need to get excited and aroused physically and mentally for our blood to flow freely to our sexual organs so that we may perform "the act"; thus, our need for physical attraction for the female!!

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
DJ sstype, If you want the definitopn of a hor search the thread
"Knock it off!!!!!!!!!!!!" my explanation is there starting on page 3... and yes a hor is defined and you can define a homo a child rapist and a murderer etc...

If you can't accept a hor for what she is then you will suffer the consequences, as we all will if we approach a lion as a kitten!!!!!

Women see men as attractive on many levels but their bodies is not their main determinant as it is with a man -- it is us men who need to get excited and aroused physically and mentally for our blood to flow freely to our sexual organs so that we may perform "the act"; thus, our need for physical attraction for the female!!

w/e dawg. this could go on forever. I am just making inferences from what I observe on a day to day basis.