Who are all the hot chicks banging right now?

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Some hot chicks bang their ex boyfriends because they dont want to increase their notch count.
 

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Some hot chicks bang their ex boyfriends because they dont want to increase their notch count.
My sister is one. She recycles the same 2 or 3 ex-boyfriends when she wants sehx and good times. She refuses to use OLD, and has a hard time finding guys she likes. Not because she isn't outgoing and attractive either.
 

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She refuses to use OLD, and has a hard time finding guys she likes. Not because she isn't outgoing and attractive either.
This seems to be a common complain from women in general. And its not new, its been around since I can remember. Most women will blame this situation on men of course.
 

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So we are somewhat agreeing that women are withdrawing from dating and relationships to a greater and greater degree.

All of this is a trend which is little spoken of. You have to think in terms of social trends. 15 or so years ago, with women learning about sex and the hookup market, and sexual liberation ie Samantha from Sex and City, you had girls thinking its cool to have sex with Chad while waiting for Mr Right to sweep them off their feet in a romantic monogamous way.

Now, us men, we all have one gripe. Why should any of us provide long term value, or wait for sex, when some guy, chad, tyrone, or whatver has been getting laid on the first date or with mininal effort or work in a ONS.

The sexual behaviours of women have been manipulative and destructive. The best guys are not getting laid the most. So, the system is broken. You cannot have High Quality guys locked-down with one girl and then some chad or player going round having sex with all the attractive women. This is what has been happening for the last 15 years. Hence it has not hit rock bottom, with high quality men unwilling to put the work in and bring long term value cos they are just losing out to Chad who women have been giving hookups too.

Sex needs to stop happening and go to 0. Then, high quality guys can atleast say they are getting some cos it isnt being devalued by Chad or PUAs getting the highest notches.

It means women need to stop playing these games. Stop trying to lock-a-man-down. Women need to make sure the best guys are getting laid the most. That means we in this society need to know which type of guy is the best and that type of guy HAS TO BE getting laid the most.

In short, the system will hit rock-bottom and only being to fix itself when the Natural Heirarchy of Men is established. That means we need to know and have an idea of what is the best type of guy and that type of guy has to be getting laid the most. Otherwise, he has to deprive women of the value that he can bring.

The move is gonna be towards men who create social circles and political groups to bring value to women. This is a long-term process and is a long game that needs to be played. Hence, all the short-term under-cover casual hookups women are doing with low-value guys is gonna have to stop.

Sex will have to go to the best guys. No drama, no games from women. Alpha serious guy, political guy, business guy, 45yr old guys are not gonna be losing in the sexual marketplace to young 25yr old Chads or players.

At the moment, and for the last 15 years, womens desire for LTRs, Marriage, being 'the prize', game-playing and manipulating, insecurity, everything has caused Alpha Quality men to lose out due to the conflict between locking a man down and getting short-term sexual fix by women.

For the women, they have to let go of the idea of being the prize. Since we hit rock-bottom, which we are close to, the womens sexual value will be lowered culturally and the Alpha Males sexual value will be recognised. We will be ably to determine male value hence we can evaluate womens sexual behaviours accordingly. It wont be the case that a guy wins if he sleeps with a woman, it will be that a woman wins if she sleeps with the Alpha. Women cannot be the prize.

Things will only get better for both parties (starting with Alpha Males, Women and then average guys) once it is culturally acknowledged that Alpha Males have higher sexual value than women and beta males.

An example of this. User Catsmeow mentioned of the Pete Davidson and Kim Kardasian hookup, something like whatever Pete Davidsons value atleast he got to **** Kim Kardasian. This is the idea that Pete Davidson got something other men would want. That Kim K is the Prize. This is the old way of thinking, where the woman is the prize and ANY GUY that gets to **** her wins. But this system will hit rock bottom. In the new system, both Pete Davidson and Kim K are losers. Pete Davidsons position in the male heirarchy, ie Game and Alpha value, is known and acknowledged. If it is too low, as it seems, then him sleeping with Kim K does not increase his value, it only lowers hers.

Then user Catsmeow has to know that both Kim K and Pete Davdson are losers in the Game. It is what it is. Women WILL lose sexual value and give up prestige and power and acknowledge the sexual value of the best men, and not attempt to limit it via monogamy. Once the correct heirarchy of male behaviours and sexual value is acknowledged, then everything else will flow down. All men attempting to imitate the best, and the best getting the most. This is will require humility and sincerity from women. A woman cannot **** a lesser guy and then think that the lesser guy will be catapulted above the real Alphas.
 

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This seems to be a common complain from women in general. And its not new, its been around since I can remember. Most women will blame this situation on men of course.
You put too many choices in front of a woman and they are paralyzed. Give them power they can't be fair. They are not great at processing and sorting out the good and the bad. They lack analytical skills. I posted about this in another thread about why I don't take advice from women.

They are not the prize. The world turns into a mess when they are treated as the prize and put in charge. The KarTRASHians are a great example. And people idolize that schitt.
 

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In the Monogamous, Patriarchal Nuclear Family system Men are not INCENTIVISED to bring value to women. In that system, women are the prize and men PAY for the privelage with work, money and monogamy. The important point is the men PAYED for the value WOMEN BROUGHT to their lives.

Now, for there to be a better society and better dating and relationships, and for women to be happier, they will have to ACKNOWLEDGE and PAY for the VALUE that Men bring into their lives.

The whole Marriage, Monogamy and Nuclear Family system will have to go.

More Men will have to work on the long game, which is building social groups and political groups to provde the value that women so desire. This is THE GAME, Alpha Energy, Community, Friends and Networks. Women want to live in a safe world with Alpha Males and Communities.

So, Men have to be incentivised to be those guys and create that world. Thus, any work that a man does to create this will need to be acknowledged and incentivised,

Theres women around me that want me to bring THE GAME, and put the work in, to deliver on what I had outlined in my plans to them. BUT, I have been moving slow and mostly waiting it out. In this current social order, we are too close to failure and disrespect. Mainly, we are too close to a world where 'Seducers' and Beta Males have been getting laid. This is a huge disrespect to my Game, and I am not willing to put my Game out there and do the work while women are elevating low-value guys by giving them sex and the prestige that belongs to me.

Look at the world around you. Who is winning. Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Rishi Sunak, PUAs, JAP etc. Do you see any quality men winning?

These are the men that this system and women have placed at the top. What do these men represent other than failure and mediocrity.

Then, why would I bring my Game into this world where society and women are elevating these type of men. Society and Women get the leaders they deserved. The current iteration of social order has to die, that is to make way for the glory and prestige of the real Alpha Males.

If you are Lionel Messi or Christianity Ronaldo and you respect and value the game of soccer. But you see teams and fans selecting crappy mediocre players, elevating them and giving them the prizes, then you simply do not play. You cannot put your Glory and GAME out there in the world for it to be disrespected.

First, the world needs to stop giving wins and stop elevating lesser players. Only when there is humility, respect and sincerity can you put your GAME and Glory out there.
 

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An example of this. User Catsmeow mentioned of the Pete Davidson and Kim Kardasian hookup, something like whatever Pete Davidsons value atleast he got to **** Kim Kardasian. This is the idea that Pete Davidson got something other men would want. That Kim K is the Prize. This is the old way of thinking, where the woman is the prize and ANY GUY that gets to **** her wins. But this system will hit rock bottom. In the new system, both Pete Davidson and Kim K are losers. Pete Davidsons position in the male heirarchy, ie Game and Alpha value, is known and acknowledged. If it is too low, as it seems, then him sleeping with Kim K does not increase his value, it only lowers hers.

Then user Catsmeow has to know that both Kim K and Pete Davdson are losers in the Game. It is what it is. Women WILL lose sexual value and give up prestige and power and acknowledge the sexual value of the best men, and not attempt to limit it via monogamy. Once the correct heirarchy of male behaviours and sexual value is acknowledged, then everything else will flow down. All men attempting to imitate the best, and the best getting the most. This is will require humility and sincerity from women. A woman cannot **** a lesser guy and then think that the lesser guy will be catapulted above the real Alphas.
Yeah, Pete Davidson got to bang Kim K BUT, BUT, BUT...He banged when she was past her prime. Good post bro.
 

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The sexual behaviours of women have been manipulative and destructive. The best guys are not getting laid the most.
Maybe not the most, but they are getting the hot young sexy fertile girls the most.

So, the system is broken. You cannot have High Quality guys locked-down with one girl and then some chad or player going round having sex with all the attractive women. This is what has been happening for the last 15 years. Hence it has not hit rock bottom, with high quality men unwilling to put the work in and bring long term value cos they are just losing out to Chad who women have been giving hookups too.
Mods, make this the title of sosuave.

This is EXACTLY why Sosuave was created
This is EXACTLY why men are angry with women
This is EXACTLY where there is a dating power flip at 30
This is EXACTLY what is wrong with dating and relationships

I would say it has been happening for last 30 years. The hot girl sleeps with the Alpha when is she young, fresh and fertile at 15 and expects to Beta to commit to her when she is educated and independent, and losing her looks at 34.


BTW I posted article about the sexual revolution while ago. Saying the “pill” was more destructive than nuclear war.

Sex needs to stop happening and go to 0. Then, high quality guys can atleast say they are getting some cos it isnt being devalued by Chad or PUAs getting the highest notches.

An example of this. User Catsmeow mentioned of the Pete Davidson and Kim Kardasian hookup, something like whatever Pete Davidsons value atleast he got to **** Kim Kardasian.
A 40+ year old twice Divorced Menopausal women with 4 kids who has a sex tape on the internet and has f*cked several guys is a “catch”? Maybe.

But of course Catsmeow would say that. She has to defend other older women to make herself feel better, protect her ego.


Women WILL lose sexual value and give up prestige and power and acknowledge the sexual value of the best men, and not attempt to limit it via monogamy. Once the correct heirarchy of male behaviours and sexual value is acknowledged, then everything else will flow down. All men attempting to imitate the best, and the best getting the most. This is will require humility and sincerity from women. A woman cannot **** a lesser guy and then think that the lesser guy will be catapulted above the real Alphas.
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A 40+ year old twice Divorced Menopausal women with 4 kids who has a sex tape on the internet and has f*cked several guys is a “catch”? Maybe.
If an ordinary woman fit this description at age 42, she would not be considered a catch.

This description applies to celebrity Kim Kardashian. At this point, I don't think Kardashian is a catch for an LTR. I don't even think a decent 50 year old man would be interested in an LTR.

I would say it has been happening for last 30 years. The hot girl sleeps with the Alpha when is she young, fresh and fertile at 15 and expects to Beta to commit to her when she is educated and independent, and losing her looks at 34.
A good portion of women are able to achieve this and get the beta between 33-42. Due to male thirst, there's still a lot of demand for 35 year old childless women. This mainly happens when the 35 year old puts herself out on a swipe app, where men vastly outnumber women. It'd be more difficult for her to achieve this based only on real life methods, even in bars where men have also historically outnumbered women.

You put too many choices in front of a woman and they are paralyzed. Give them power they can't be fair. They are not great at processing and sorting out the good and the bad. They lack analytical skills. I posted about this in another thread about why I don't take advice from women.
This happens quite often. Women from 2000s-present have had more options than at any point in past history. Since online dating websites de-stigmatized in the mid-2000s, it's been common for a 35 year old childless woman to have more options than a 21 year old "9" would have had in 1990 (prior to the rise of the internet).

people are having substantially less sex than they were in the past and this is all due to dating apps and social media, women are pickier now than ever.
Research exists that supports this point and it is likely you've seen articles citing that research.

I believe that most single women, including attractive ones, are not having sex all that often and are going on relatively long sexual droughts. I believe that many women, including attractive ones, are holding out for some "chad" type and naturally will go a very long time without sex. A lot of women may have sex like once every couple months or so by some guy she finds attractive or is at least passable and then go about her day. I believe this whole chad is constantly slaying is a bunch of nonsense and what is really happening is that a fairly small minority of men are having sex with women here and there whenever the opportunity arises, for those that aren't in relationships that is.

They are incredibly picky and will go a very long time without **** but will eventually find something that will do for a one time fling and then move on.
Female selectivity has increased by a lot since the rise of internet dating, and especially the swipe app era that has emerged since 2012.

Most people, including women, need a relationship to have sex consistently. If a woman in the attractive group (a woman most men would rate 7.5+) isn't in a relationship for an extended period, she's not going to have as consistent of sex.

There are more women in the 4.5-6.5 range holding out for "Chads" and not settling for a relationship. I've seen women I would rate as a 5.5 routinely turning down men at their SMV level or even at the 6.5-7 level. Every 5.5 woman unwilling to settle and get into a relationship reduces sex frequency of the overall population.

However, this thread is more about the 7.5+ rating women. Are 7.5+ women acting like the 5.5 woman I mentioned in the last text block. I'd say that idea has merit. Keep in mind that a 7.5+ woman is the kind of woman that is on the same level as a top tier guy, especially the 8-8.5+ women. A woman who is an 8-8.5 on looks might even be able to lock down a top guy for a relationship.

Women don't have any problems getting sex, but they can have problems getting committed relationship sex at any looks level.
 

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