Which car?

[backseatjuan]

Aluminum suspension on most Audis is a pain in the butt. It is comfortable, no doubt about that, you don't feel bumps with it, but on bad roads you have to replace it every year, and you can't just replace stuff that is broken, you have to replace everything. Same with BMW X5 and X6. If something in suspension goes, replace the whole thing. Factory originals cost a lot of money, while chinese crap is cheap, it won't last as long. So each year you spend some serious money on those cars.

Most people that buy those cars, either lease them, or buy them 2nd hand and drive until something brakes, then sell them. That 2nd scheme is how majority of used car market works. So you end up with "nice" cars for 10 or 20 thousand euro that appear to be "nice" until you find out about the maintenance costs.

This does not mean you have to go out and buy a cheap car. Because car is first of all for you, only then it is to show the world what you have achieved. Mostly young people buy certain cars to impress women. Women dig cars, because a car has certain romanticism to it. Any woman is yours if you have a cool BMW, just drive up to them, and there you go you open them. Same is not possible in a Ford, or a cargo van, or even worst, a mini van. From the car, you should get excitement, that is the key thing. Your car should not bore you.

But take any vehicle, and you dig into it, you soon discover that excitement costs money. The more exciting a car is, the more money it costs to buy, and the more money it costs to maintain. So us poor people end up with cheap cars, not because they are awesome, and not because we don't need awesome car because we have a big ****, but because we can't afford anything else. That is the brutal reality, we drive what we can afford.

 

[Fatal Jay]

Why are poor people always the ones buying cars they can't afford? I thought that was one of the main reasons this country is in the toilet?

 

[BraddH]

To backseatjuan: yes, exactly. The excitement, the joy, the women, the adventure, the romanticism, the love, the aliveness is all in the high price car. That is why I want one, otherwise why not just buy a 400 euro car? You can drive with that too and it is much much much more cheaper.

About aluminum. I see. I guess every goo ld thin has its bad side too.

To Fatal Jay, what to say.. You cannot put it that way. Many poor people won't buy a costly car - they cannot. But come across a man like me who takes risk who loves adventure, excitements, the risks of anything, the rush of joy, the knowing of the unknown, who is fearless and he will find ways to get that something that brings him those qualities. A man who lives with his qualities such as passion is a man with gift, whom is alive. And a man who only live with his calculator mind, logical mind is very auperficial - absolutely dead. Alive only on the physical level, but dead on the physiological level, the inside and the inside is much more deeper than the physical, outside. That's what differs us from animals, we have something they don't: a physiological consciousness.

Now, who knows what might happens? I trust life so deeply he cannot be cruel to me. Can someone close you trust deeply betray you? Say, perhaps your mother.

Now if I buy this car, it can attract many rich people and seeing how my situation is with my family, they.might help. Or at least some connection is made with the rich people. Certainly if you drive a Audi rs5, you will attract more rich people in those 4 or 5 years the car can handle than with a mini van for your whole lifetimebut perhaps, who knows, some people who have been jealous of me might become even more jealous and they will kill me. Or maybe someone who hates me, hates me even more for having such an awesome car. An many times, in fact most of the time, hatred is born through jealous, so life is very balanced. No worries.

I might go with the Audi rs5, but deeeamn it costs alot! I might have to take some loan. Untill I graduate my religion college and turn into professor, then a monk and people will come and donate me for my poorness, haha.

 

[backseatjuan]

You didn't say which country you from, we have to dance from what is available on your market.


There is a Russian term "office plankton", that's a person that has his or her life blue printed, they know that they have to study and get education, they know where they want to work, they know how much money they want to earn, they come home, eat, **** their wives, **** shower and shave, and go to sleep, and each morning drive to work in the same traffic jam, work, and in the evening drive back in that same traffic jam. They are slaves, vegetables, they are boring. These kinds of people usually buy cars in credit, or lease them. It is a poor man's idiot dream to be an office plankton.

 

[BraddH]

You didn't say which country you from, we have to dance from what is available on your market.


There is a Russian term "office plankton", that's a person that has his or her life blue printed, they know that they have to study and get education, they know where they want to work, they know how much money they want to earn, they come home, eat, **** their wives, **** shower and shave, and go to sleep, and each morning drive to work in the same traffic jam, work, and in the evening drive back in that same traffic jam. They are slaves, vegetables, they are boring. These kinds of people usually buy cars in credit, or lease them. It is a poor man's idiot dream to be an office plankton.

Exactly. That is the secury men. They are so afraid to take any risk, their life becomes a mechanism. They sooner or later lose their consciousness too. Because what can you do about it? When something becomes a routine, it loses its consciousness; it becomes an unconscious phenomenon.

I think I did mention my country in the first post or second, bu yeah I am from Finland. And if I'm right, it is way too costly here.

 

[backseatjuan]

Subaru STI is a good car, boxer engine, manual transmission, all wheel drive. STI in particular is a rally car, that means most things have increased durability.

BMW M3 is an excellent car. Back in 90s and early 2000s Germans made cars that could go 1,000,000 miles. Past 2001 German cars dropped in quality, but still could go 250,000 miles before engine rebuild.

VW Golf and Rabbit are excellent, especially with manual transmission.

Lada Niva is good, even through all of it's deficiencies, there is fun in that car. Buy one, put 29 - 30 inch tires on it, and invest money into interior and noise insulation, and music. Excellent ride for 15,000 dollars. But you will repair it often, mainly change bearings, and gaskets.

Renault is French garbage.

Shkoda is alright, but no need for it if you have VW.

Top of the list is Mercedes Benz.

For you important thing is cheap insurance, fuel economy, and cheat taxes.

 

[BraddH]

I just cant understand why a rs 5 Audi in USA viat like 50k dollar which is like 37k euro. And in Finland that same car costs 150k euro? Which is like 200 thousand dollars, I simply can't believe it. 4 times more than in usa.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Because car is first of all for you, only then it is to show the world what you have achieved. Mostly young people buy certain cars to impress women. Women dig cars, because a car has certain romanticism to it. Any woman is yours if you have a cool BMW

This is the stupidest reason to buy a car. With enough game, you should be able to attract a smoking hot woman with a broken down old junk pile, ratty clothes and 5 bucks in your pocket. There is no magic bullet and when the money runs out so will she. Approach ALL women as if you were the poorest guy on Earth, if you have success then you know you are a winner, until then you are just hiding behind money.

 

[backseatjuan]

Taxes man. In USA there is no tax on engine size, in Europe there is. For example I had 2001 Mustang in Miami with 4.6 liter engine, I sold it for $5,000. To bring it to Russia besides transportation it would cost me another $35,000 on customs, and then I'd have to pay taxes for engine size and horsepower each year, plus that thing eats a lot of fuel, and parts are not readily available. Thus Mustang in Russia is luxury. Of course after some time I think of Mustang as just a slow two door sedan with little technology behind it, and it is slow compared to what is roaming our roads. A Lada Priora can kill it with a naturally aspirated 1.6 liter engine, with some mods to it that makes it put out 180 horsepower to the front wheels at 9,000 rpm, and boom bah and mustang is in the rear view mirror in the quarter mile, cuz Priora is a light car. Besides Mustang suspension is not ideal for Russian roads.

Thus different laws apply to Europe and Asia than to USA. We prefer smaller cars with small economic engines, if we want our cars to go fast we tune them to go fast.

Finland is snowy most of the year, I think a 4x4 like Niva or Subaru is a right choice for you. Also, Finland is straight so you could use natural gas. Just remember to adjust valve spacing for natural gas, as it burns hotter, so you need more space between valve and head for the heat gap - you can't just install gas kit and drive your car, have to adjust valve spacing. After two tanks of gas drive 1 tank on fuel, helps with lubrication or something, I forgot.

As I said, different story in Europe and Asia than in USA. But usually women love accomplished man. Nothing says accomplished than a car. Women talk to each other, and just how you picture her telling her girl friends that she gave her puss to you inside of a sh`t bucket. Dude, that's worst than f'cking a black man. But it's cool for a woman to f'ck a BBC in America, isn't it? Well it is not in Europe and Asia! If a girl here f'cked a black man, nobody is going to touch her after that.

That's right dude, we are that close minded.

Just how you picture everybody knowing your wife f'cked a black dude???? Geeeezzeeeeee.

Like I said America is different from Europe and Asia. It is racist what I said above in America, but it is not racist in Europe and Asia. The N word is racist in America, it is not racist here, because if I call you a N, and you are black, and you have something to say about it and call me racist, I can just ask you what are you then, Chinese? After that you can't say anything to me nor call me racist, because you are black, and black race is also called nigro, and if I called you a N, that's because you are in fact black, and not because I am racist. That racial racist thing that blacks and jews use to their advantage in America simply does not work here.

You get women if you have a cheap car or sh`t bucket, but not the fine looking shallow super model types. Women you get in cheap car are good marriage material though, but in an expensive car you get playboy super models from an erotic movie. So if you want fine ass women you better be accomplished, super models are not going to f'ck with your poor ass, they can do better. If you disagree with it, and say that game can get them, you'd be right in some way, game can get them too, but not as easy and fast as money. HAAAAA

 

[Vice]

To Fatal Jay, what to say.. You cannot put it that way. Many poor people won't buy a costly car - they cannot. But come across a man like me who takes risk who loves adventure, excitements, the risks of anything, the rush of joy, the knowing of the unknown, who is fearless and he will find ways to get that something that brings him those qualities. A man who lives with his qualities such as passion is a man with gift, whom is alive. And a man who only live with his calculator mind, logical mind is very auperficial - absolutely dead. Alive only on the physical level, but dead on the physiological level, the inside and the inside is much more deeper than the physical, outside. That's what differs us from animals, we have something they don't: a physiological consciousness.

What you just wrote makes zero sense and sounds like a bunch of marketing nonsense that doesn't even apply to you. Buying a car you can't afford isn't an "adventure". It's stupid.

Now if I buy this car, it can attract many rich people and seeing how my situation is with my family, they.might help. Or at least some connection is made with the rich people. Certainly if you drive a Audi rs5, you will attract more rich people in those 4 or 5 years the car can handle than with a mini van for your whole lifetimebut perhaps, who knows, some people who have been jealous of me might become even more jealous and they will kill me. Or maybe someone who hates me, hates me even more for having such an awesome car. An many times, in fact most of the time, hatred is born through jealous, so life is very balanced. No worries.

You DO realize that rich people see through your little game? They can tell INSTANTLY if you're rich or poor, not by the car you drive, but by your words and mannerisms. And if you DO "attract rich people", what exactly are you going to do with them, especially when they realize you're faking it and have no idea what you're talking about? Also, the average millionaire DOES NOT drive a fancy car.

 

[Epimanes]

I prefer to get a vehicle in the 12 year age range cuz likely if its still on the road most things have been fixed on it to keep it there. I buy vehicles around the 2-3k range because buying new is a waste of money. If you buy a vehicle for 3k instead of 30k. How much gas and repairs can you do for the other 27k you didn't spend on it? A lot.....

Epi

 

[BraddH]

I prefer to get a vehicle in the 12 year age range cuz likely if its still on the road most things have been fixed on it to keep it there. I buy vehicles around the 2-3k range because buying new is a waste of money. If you buy a vehicle for 3k instead of 30k. How much gas and repairs can you do for the other 27k you didn't spend on it? A lot.....

Epi

You buy a car for 30k when you have 50k. You have absolutely no idea of what will happen to your life, how will that sound? Doesn't it sound exciting? You might die, you might not. You might become even more richer, you might by, who knows? But as far as I am concerned, I know that whenever you pass money around buy buying stuff, you make yourself richer and the other people richer. Because the more you buy, the more that same dollar rises its value. For example a dollar if that same dollar has been used by ten people, it suddenly has the worth of ten dollars, it is no longer just one dollar.

 

[BraddH]

What you just wrote makes zero sense and sounds like a bunch of marketing nonsense that doesn't even apply to you. Buying a car you can't afford isn't an "adventure". It's stupid.



You DO realize that rich people see through your little game? They can tell INSTANTLY if you're rich or poor, not by the car you drive, but by your words and mannerisms. And if you DO "attract rich people", what exactly are you going to do with them, especially when they realize you're faking it and have no idea what you're talking about? Also, the average millionaire DOES NOT drive a fancy car.

If that is not adventure then what is? Do you know what the term adventure means? It means that there is a goal that you might not be able to accomplish, or you might be, then you chase that goal and try to accomplish it. What are you talking about? I can't buy the car? Who said that? How did you come to that conclusion? If I have a budjet of 20k euro then what is the "impossileness" of getting 10k more? It is an adventure. That's why it is called an adventure. I I have already gotten 20k which is twice as much as 10k then what is the impossibleness with getting 10k? Negative people like you are the people who fails.

Just because you have failed, does not mean others will fail. Just because you have failed, there is no no need to pull others down too.just a eighteen ear old teenager dreaming about a nice and cool car and you come here telling that it is impossible. Who are you? What do you know about any success? You have never succeeded so how can you know about it?

Whether you act or not, it is always acting. For example, a millionaire knows that he is inch so you think that he does not need to act rich. But think more deeper: he cannot act poor. So if he cannot act poor, he will act rich. And is there a rich person? Any person has someone who has more than him. It is a vicious circle if you think in terms of rich and poor. If you can transcend that duality, will you come to a real richness, an inner richness. If you can get out of your constant conflict between rich and poor, only then will you accomplish a real inner richness and that has nothing to do with material. Material richness is just some dead paper that has no life in it; very superficial. A real richness is inside one, and that richness brings contentment, happiness, blissfulness - that is the real richness what Jesus, Buddha, Mahavira, Krishna, Mohammed, Lao-tzu is talkin about. Because how can you feel poor? Or how can you feel inferior when you are contended, when you feel happiness and blissfulness, how can you feel like a poor person anymore? It is impossible to feel sadness when you feel happiness. It is like day and night. Hm there is day how can there be night? An vice vierca, when it is night, how can there be day at the same time?

 

[Epimanes]

You buy a car for 30k when you have 50k. You have absolutely no idea of what will happen to your life, how will that sound? Doesn't it sound exciting? You might die, you might not. You might become even more richer, you might by, who knows? But as far as I am concerned, I know that whenever you pass money around buy buying stuff, you make yourself richer and the other people richer. Because the more you buy, the more that same dollar rises its value. For example a dollar if that same dollar has been used by ten people, it suddenly has the worth of ten dollars, it is no longer just one dollar.

Dude... That's makes absolutley no sense. Buy a 30k car if you got 50k? Why? Why not have some cash to fall back on. Why not have a cash reserve for repairs. Why not put a down on a house instead?

The more you buy the more your money is worth? So if I spend all my money .. Its going to somehow now be worth more magicly? Like its going to reproduce itself? 1 dollar is still 1 dollar .. Doenst matter who has it or what they spend it on. If you got that dollar given back its not magicly worth 10bux. The only reason it continues to have value after you spend it is because everyone wants it.

Let's see.... I could spend my entire life savings on a car that's going to depreciate in value by like 20% a year and in 10years it will be worth 5k or I could spend 3k on a car that will likely do everything I need it to and more, has likely alrerady had every major repair done to it because some yahoo thought owning it from new AND fixing it as it depreciated was worth his 30k to only sell it to me for 3k after fixing everything after he gets pissed off cuz it cost so much to keep it fixed up .. And make interest off the rest of the money I didn't waste on it while I save for something more substantual and worth throwing money at.

Hmmmm its a no brainer to me. Your logic is off in my opinion. No wonder the USA deficit is so high and not getting better anytime soon. What's going to happen if the world banks call on this dept that will never get repaid? Maybe they will pay another country to "collect" for them all the debt owed to the world banks. ...

I'd rather use my money a little bit more practical than to throw it away at a car just to look flashy... Money doesn't grow on trees where I come from we have to work for it. So no interest in throwing more money than I have to towards a depreciating asset.

Epi

 

[BraddH]

You buy a car for 30k when you have 50k. You have absolutely no idea of what will happen to your life, how will that sound? Doesn't it sound exciting? You might die, you might not. You might become even more richer, you might by, who knows? But as far as I am concerned, I know that whenever you pass money around buy buying stuff, you make yourself richer and the other people richer. Because the more you buy, the more that same dollar rises its value. For example a dollar if that same dollar has been used by ten people, it suddenly has the worth of ten dollars, it is no longer just one dollar.

You will never grow if you don't take risks. And you won't take wise risks if you have not learned from stupid risks.

 

[BraddH]

Dude... That's makes absolutley no sense. Buy a 30k car if you got 50k? Why? Why not have some cash to fall back on. Why not have a cash reserve for repairs. Why not put a down on a house instead?

The more you buy the more your money is worth? So if I spend all my money .. Its going to somehow now be worth more magicly? Like its going to reproduce itself? 1 dollar is still 1 dollar .. Doenst matter who has it or what they spend it on. If you got that dollar given back its not magicly worth 10bux. The only reason it continues to have value after you spend it is because everyone wants it.

Let's see.... I could spend my entire life savings on a car that's going to depreciate in value by like 20% a year and in 10years it will be worth 5k or I could spend 3k on a car that will likely do everything I need it to and more, has likely alrerady had every major repair done to it because some yahoo thought owning it from new AND fixing it as it depreciated was worth his 30k to only sell it to me for 3k after fixing everything after he gets pissed off cuz it cost so much to keep it fixed up .. And make interest off the rest of the money I didn't waste on it while I save for something more substantual and worth throwing money at.

Hmmmm its a no brainer to me. Your logic is off in my opinion. No wonder the USA deficit is so high and not getting better anytime soon. What's going to happen if the world banks call on this dept that will never get repaid? Maybe they will pay another country to "collect" for them all the debt owed to the world banks. ...

I'd rather use my money a little bit more practical than to throw it away at a car just to look flashy... Money doesn't grow on trees where I come from we have to work for it. So no interest in throwing more money than I have to towards a depreciating asset.

Epi

Epi

Yes. Than you for your reply. I have respect for every person on earth so I have to show appreciation.

As far as I'm concerned, I am. Or interested in business. I would like everyone to think like me and be carefree about their money and the government should do something about this constant competition and constant pulling of others legs, because it is simply inhuman. Ther has been 5000 wars in 3000 years because of this constant competition of who rules the world. It is simply stupid and animalistic. We are human for god sake and we have been given intellectual, intelligence to understand all this nonse, to stop it, to being love and joy and happiness to the world. I wonder when was the last time anyone on this forum brought love on topic? Can you see my point? We have lowrrd ourselves way too much and it is no wonder if the world is coming to an end soon. It is all because of our own stupidity, our own lack of understanding and love.

My point is not to ruin my life with the car, but to show the world that we not need to be that greedy. If we would all fillap once, we could get a world of competition-free because there is simply enough stuff for everyone and for abundance! For example researches have shown that we could feed seven earths. And that there would be no need do hunger.

Can the moderator unban my IP address because it is simply annoying to write long texts with deep context via phone. I have been talking about love all the time and they treat me like a murderer!

 

[Epimanes]

I could buy a new car if I chose.... I just don't like to see my money disappear like that. My 94 silverado has paid for itself. In fact its making money. My ewfe and I have an allocated amount that goes into a repair fund towards both our vehicles that we budget for every month. So far neither vehicle I own consumes my repair budget and my truck has made me a few bucks from hauling peoples shyt and often get paid to do so. Often my "repair" fund pays for my insurance at then end of the year or more. Rinse repeat. I have had my truck for years and only had to do oil changes.. And brakes once. It has 486,000kms on it. Runs excellent. I take it hunting. It hauls my shyt to and from hunting and it recently took me to alberta and back with no issues. Its awesome on the snow.. And excellent off road. What more can I guy need in a vehicle?

I rather my vehicles make money than cost money. Sure it sux in gas.. But I don't have huge repair bills or maintenance costs or a loan to pay and I'm not in debt at all.

Good luck with your depreciating asset. I'm sure the chicks will be knocking on your door to ride in it and when it breaks down (newer is not always better) you will be regretting how much money your forking into it. Good lesson though I say.

 

[Epimanes]

Your account doenst say banned. I'm sure you can logon from a pc np.

Also some of the most successful people I know.. You wouldn't know they had money at all because they don't flaunt it.

 

[BraddH]

I could buy a new car if I chose.... I just don't like to see my money disappear like that. My 94 silverado has paid for itself. In fact its making money. My ewfe and I have an allocated amount that goes into a repair fund towards both our vehicles that we budget for every month. So far neither vehicle I own consumes my repair budget and my truck has made me a few bucks from hauling peoples shyt and often get paid to do so. Often my "repair" fund pays for my insurance at then end of the year or more. Rinse repeat. I have had my truck for years and only had to do oil changes.. And brakes once. It has 486,000kms on it. Runs excellent. I take it hunting. It hauls my shyt to and from hunting and it recently took me to alberta and back with no issues. Its awesome on the snow.. And excellent off road. What more can I guy need in a vehicle?

I rather my vehicles make money than cost money. Sure it sux in gas.. But I don't have huge repair bills or maintenance costs or a loan to pay and I'm not in debt at all.

Good luck with your depreciating asset. I'm sure the chicks will be knocking on your door to ride in it and when it breaks down (newer is not always better) you will be regretting how much money your forking into it. Good lesson though I say.

Yes, we experience through experience.

Can you tell me about the burning of the clutch by the way? Like when is the time when it burns. If I am right, it burns when you are pulling the rpm high and slowly letting or leaving the clutch at its midway. This will make a weird sound and it is burning it right? Any other ways it burns? Just to avoid them.

 

[Epimanes]

The clutch burns when you begin to let it out. The longer you are between your foot off the clutch and on the clutch (at the engagement point where it starts to grab) the more it burns or slips. If youi got a high powered car you can burn your clutch out in no time.. And your engagement point gets worse and worse. You will smell it... Its smells like burnt metal kinda