Where the Hotties are

[Rollo Tomassi]

There's been a rash of posts by guys on the Mature board lately on the visible lack of any eligible women in their immediate area so I thought I'd start a thread here on the best and most underated places to meet women. Even the mPUA Mystery has stated that his biggest obstacle in sarging is find where potential targets are (i.e the meeting phase). So give em up if you've got 'em.

I started this becasue yesterday on my lunch break I was in Bed Bath and Beyond (against my better judgement) for the first time tracking down a Christmas present and was floored by the amount of beautiful women there. I thought, Holy Sh!t this place is just swimming with hot girls.

I think guys limit themselves to meeting women at clubs or parties where there is a pretense of 'looking' for available men and women. In The Game, Neil Strauss number closes with a playmate in an Office Depot. Granted, it was in L.A., but still, not the expected arena for sarging.

 

[Red_Tiger]

the reason I would like to meet a nice girl in a bar is that having a drink makes me feel more relaxed.

If I see a hottie in a supermarket, I am probably feeling stressed on my lunch break.

On a different subject why do women takes ages at checkouts when shopping, they never have their money ready

 

[Immaculate]

And they're all taken.

I went on a spree a few months ago, and must have done 20 cold approaches to HOT girls, and they all have boyfriends.

All the beautiful, normal girls are taken.

I had one in my life at one point, but I screwed up and lost her.

Now I have a girl in my life I'm considering keeping.

 

[Ricky]

I agree alot of them are taken. But thinking they are all taken is a limiting belief and it will make you quit.

 

[Immaculate]

I've come to the conclusion if you haven't landed one and kept her in your early twenties, the chance of finding one not taken is nill.

 

[Evan_M]

Originally posted by Immaculate
I've come to the conclusion if you haven't landed one and kept her in your early twenties, the chance of finding one not taken is nill.

This is not entirely true. A lot of women wait until their mid-twenties before they start actively persuing marriage. Granted it's a lot easier to meet a woman when you're younger, stick with her and get married. However I myself was not ready then. I'm 31 now and am more actively persuing it with women who are in their mid-twenties. They're out there, you just have to find them or have them find you.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Originally posted by Immaculate
And they're all taken.

I went on a spree a few months ago, and must have done 20 cold approaches to HOT girls, and they all have boyfriends.

All the beautiful, normal girls are taken.

That's a very unfavorable mindset you have there Immaculate. You could say this about all girls in general, could you not? "They're all taken". That is not the truth, nor is it conducive to your goals of picking-up women.

If I were to guess the percentage of women with boyfriends at any one moment, I would say maybe 60%. So you ask out 10 girls, you're guaranteed atleast a few numbers.


Rollo,

For places to pick-up women, I believe you have just hit the tip of the iceberg. Place that I find are jacked with hot women are... women's clothing stores.. obviously. Just walk in, and browse. Pretend you're buying a gift for a cousin or sister.

That's pretty much all I do when I'm on the sarge. I go to the mall and wander through women's stores. It's a goldmine.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I started this becasue yesterday on my lunch break I was in Bed Bath and Beyond (against my better judgement) for the first time tracking down a Christmas present and was floored by the amount of beautiful women there. I thought, Holy Sh!t this place is just swimming with hot girls.

I think guys limit themselves to meeting women at clubs or parties where there is a pretense of 'looking' for available men and women.

I am surprised many if not most men consider bars as their primary place to meet women. What kind of women they are going to meet there? Drunk, ready for ONS, AW or just somebody who in the mode of "I dont care about anything".

This is a really great post, I think places as Bed Bath and Beyond are great to meet women. Basically it can be easily extended: any store that is more women oriented is great to meet women of better quality than in bars\clubs.
Of course of a guy into ONS he shoulk stick to bars\clubs for obvious reasons.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
That's a very unfavorable mindset you have there Immaculate. You could say this about all girls in general, could you not? "They're all taken".

That's pretty much all I do when I'm on the sarge. I go to the mall and wander through women's stores. It's a goldmine.

I disagree on hot women: they are all taken practically speaking. Even if she is not, she'll b*tch test you with "I have a bf". Hot women are all spoiled with tons of attention, I don't think it is exceptionally good idea to approach them.
I mean sure, you can try to deadlift 4000lb, maybe you even gain some muscle after this very static exercise but you it is not an efficient way to lift weights.
Approaching hot chicks is not an effcetive way of getting good results.

But I love the idea of women's stores. This is 100 times better than going to bars hoping to find a decent gal there.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Just for the record, I met Mrs. Tomassi at a bar.

I'm not suggesting you can't find quality women at a club or a bar, I just think it would help a load of guys here to look for alternative venues to make approaches. Most guy's default is to opt for a club since that's a prime social setting for meeting women who are "ready to buy", but I also think that it hinders a guy in that he only has one DJ skill set for one particular environment. The same PUA with a couple of drinks in him that works a room on a Friday night tends to be the rejection-phobic, cold feet guy in the bookstore when he sees a woman there he would otherwise sarge without thinking in a club.

You can complain about the 'quality' (whatever that means) of women in a bar setting but this is just masking a deficit. What are you doing to approach women when you're not in a club with a shot of tequilla in you? A DJ is a DJ in a club or at the library, at a bar and at Bed Bath & Beyond. Time to get out of your comfort zone and learn new skills to sarge women outside a club.

I like the women's clothing store idea, but only occasionally. I can imagine a store clerk wondering who the stalker is in the store all the time. Other venues you might consider:

Farmers Market's or Swap Meets.
Bookstores (I know, old news)
If you're in college watch where chicks study. Not a place to sarge, but you can approach there.
The makeup section of a Nordstroms or the like.
The gym is an obvious choice, but only if you have the physique to back up your technique.
The Beach (same rules for the gym apply)

Think of some more.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Originally posted by al77
Approaching hot chicks is not an effcetive way of getting good results.

WTF??

Ok... from now on I'll approach ugly broads because al77 said they're easier to pick-up. Thanks for the heads-up!

Originally posted by al77
Hot women are all spoiled with tons of attention, I don't think it is exceptionally good idea to approach them.

How many guys do you think go up to these women in malls and ask them out? Probably none because 98% of the population is gut-less. If you ask them out, you set yourself apart from the rest and you might get her number.

 

[legolas]

Originally posted by Immaculate
And they're all taken.

I went on a spree a few months ago, and must have done 20 cold approaches to HOT girls, and they all have boyfriends.

All the beautiful, normal girls are taken.

I had one in my life at one point, but I screwed up and lost her.

Now I have a girl in my life I'm considering keeping.

You must also keep in mind that some women use the "I have a boyfriend" line when they want you to stop pestering them whether or not they actually have one. Your way of approaching could make it or break it before you even a chance to say hello

 

[al77]

Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
WTF??

How many guys do you think go up to these women in malls and ask them out? Probably none because 98% of the population is gut-less. If you ask them out, you set yourself apart from the rest and you might get her number.

Hey I was not trying to discourage you.
I am saying that it is much more effective (time effective, energy effective, even money effective) to approach girls who are not considered "super hot" by majority of men.

I don't see why it cannot be true.
For example you want to buy a car, and have lets say modest 15k for that. You can go buy huge gas guzzler for 30k and pay interest, pay full insurance on it,, or you can buy a modest honda\toyota which will take you to places with the same speed as a huge gas guzzler. What is the benefit of a gas guzzler?
It is cool and your friends say "cool" ..one first time they see it?

Same with women: you have a hot gf, your friends say "Oh cool".
Thats it. After that you will have to deal with her high maintanence and her spoilness.
What is the point?

Regarding the mall pickup. It is true regarding all women, but I am sure hot women are apporached more often than not so hot ones.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Originally posted by al77
Hey I was not trying to discourage you.
I am saying that it is much more effective (time effective, energy effective, even money effective) to approach girls who are not considered "super hot" by majority of men.

I don't see why it cannot be true.
For example you want to buy a car, and have lets say modest 15k for that. You can go buy huge gas guzzler for 30k and pay interest, pay full insurance on it,, or you can buy a modest honda\toyota which will take you to places with the same speed as a huge gas guzzler. What is the benefit of a gas guzzler?
It is cool and your friends say "cool" ..one first time they see it?

Same with women: you have a hot gf, your friends say "Oh cool".
Thats it. After that you will have to deal with her high maintanence and her spoilness.
What is the point?

Regarding the mall pickup. It is true regarding all women, but I am sure hot women are apporached more often than not so hot ones.

I agree with this "economical" logic when it comes to buying material things... but I'm talking about women here!

I am the best, therefore I deserve the best. I am not going to settle for some average looking girl just because she's easier to find than some hot one. I have way too much self respect for that. I don't care if it takes months to land a girl that is up to my standards. If I keep asking out tonnes of girls, eventually one will be a keeper. I don't give a sh*t what my friends say either. I want a hot broad that I can have alot of fun with, and that's all I'm concerned about.

 

[STR8UP]

Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Just for the record, I met Mrs. Tomassi at a bar.

This whole "good women don't hang out in bars" thing is the biggest load of BS. It's one of those trite sayings that everyone repeats for some reason or another.

I met my last LTR in a club. She visited there regularly. That's how I initially got to know her.

Just today I was talking to one of the real estate girls that I deal with on a regular basis. Never really hung out with her but she seems to be a sweet girl. We got on the subject of going out and she mentioned how she frequently visits one of the bars I go to sometimes. I don't really know her that well but from what I can tell she's a decent person, not a bar ho. She likes to get out and have a good time just like most of the rest of us do.

You guys want to limit yourselves in this way....fine by me! For me it's just another venue to meet new people.

 

[WestCoaster]

The hotties are where you find them

There's a great DJ tip of the day, article, or hall of fame post on this side (maybe it's in the DJ Bible) about the world being your oyster.

Once a guy refined his DJ skills he realized that women weren't just in the bars and clubs, they were also in the grocery stores, the libraries, the museums, the cafes, the mall, running, playing tennis, watching sports ... you name it.

One has to open their eyes ... I met a pretty nice gal at a museum last month. I've met some others at odd places. Personally, I'm crappy in a bar setting, so I venture to other places to play to my strengths. But you can find a nice woman in a bar ... heck, I went to a sports bar last night to watch a game, does that make me a bad guy?

The hotties are where you find them.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by wheelin&dealin

I am the best, therefore I deserve the best. I am not going to settle for some average looking girl just because she's easier to find than some hot one.
I want a hot broad that I can have alot of fun with, and that's all I'm concerned about.

Maybe then it is just about age? I remember I thought in a similar way when I was about your age. When your age advances, you start wanting not only a hot broad, but rather a good hot broad.
One you can have multiple ONS: Thousands of them. Some sort of LTR with sombody who is good for that LTR.

You sure can find a hot girl, thats not a problem. But with a hot one you are going to face many problems from small to not so small ones:
"Is she really very single?" - hot gals tend to have several guys who are trying to get in her bed.
"Does she really like me?" - She may sleep with a guy, ok, but does she want anything besides it? Many hot ladies are spoiled and usually do not want to persue anything serious.
"Is she spoiled?" - Hot ones tend to be.
"Is she materialistic?" - again hot ones tend to be.
"Is she manipulative?" - hot ones tend to be very much.
Etc.

Hot women tend to accumulate all bad features women have besides their looks. It is like if for example a guy want to buy a car, of xxx model just because it is fast and have good out design. But he knows that statistics says this xxx models breaks down a lot, consumes lots of gas, very high maintanence, needs some speacial tuning\oil change etc and very costly to keep.

And he still wants it because he likes to be able to pass other cars after they start to move on a traffic light.
If he can afford the car - sure, it is his car.
The same with women: if a guy have resources (looks, DJ skills, money, good age etc) sure, he can afford to play with any hot broad.

Women are like things: men pay for them anyway - in terms of energy, money or time.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by STR8UP
This whole "good women don't hang out in bars" thing is the biggest load of BS.
I met my last LTR in a club. She visited there regularly. That's how I initially got to know her.

That statement is really BS.
"It is hard to meet good women in a bar" would be much more accurate. Good, decent women do go to bars, but they turn their b*tch shields on, drink, and play a role of AW. They are in the mode "Oh, nothing serious, just having fun". Some even in the mode of "I don't mind having ONS tonight to feel more of a woman".

If bars are the primary source of meeting women for you, you should not expect the women you meet there are a bit odd and sl*tty. For example, you said you met your LTR in a bar. Ok, and why did you break up? Because.. she was not good enough for you. See the pattern already?

If you just occasionaly go to bars to meet women, this is a very different thing. If you go there as the only place to meet women, statistically most women there will not meet your standards of LTR.

 

[Heretolearn]

1. Do things you enjoy and work on yourself so WHEREEVER you see a woman you can approach.

2. What would you like in a woman? Smart - go to libraries, bookstores etc. Fit - gyms, exercise classes etc. Spritual...


etc. etc!

general - the real key is to be able TO GO FOR IT when you see an opportnuity

 

[cinephile]

A very important topic

Does'nt matter how good you are DJ wise, you need to have an adequate number of quality ladies available if you are going to have any sucess. The best places I have found to meet the largest # of women are the following.

1. School. Especially large state universities.
2. Higher end Malls.
3 Amusement parks ( better for HS girls)
4. Wedding conventions.
5. Concerts by certain artists.
6. Church

Basically any place that large amounts of people congregate at on a regular basis. Bars and clubs are soso just because you are only meeting the women that go to those places.