Where is "the masturbation discussion"

[Poonani Maker]

In my opinion masturbation may be indirectly causing this. I think if you ate well, slept early and enough and did an normal amount of exercise (Not too much or too little) you would be more then fine. Try some of these: a banana, drink orange juice, an apple, a pear, a kiwi, some nuts, goji berry's... I like those, if I was nervous that is what I would take to calm me down.

If you guys browse that website a little bit, herballove.com, you would maybe change your opinion. Masturbation is good in moderation. It is relaxing.

Poonani you masturbate only sometimes... So I doubt very much that masturbation alone is your problem. Sure, you did it three times, but even so, you hadn't done it in like ages I bet. You are masturbating too little if anything! 3-4 times a week you should be able to handle that IMO, if you can't, well, altough it is true that you are older then me, but I would guess you are lacking in some other part... GL! Keep us updated!

I must have posted that when sosuave when down yesterday, so I altered the original and double posted. Anyway, you're right. I hardly ever mb, and I guess that doing it 3 times in 3 hours was reasoned away in my mind as a kind of training for when I fvck a girl again. I usually will only come once with a girl, but now I know that I could come at least 3 times over 3 hours if I wanted with her. It's just that after the first time she wants to cuddle or have me stay and talk for a while and I just lose all interest in her and I Know that this hurts most of the women I'm with. I can sense it, that she thinks that I think less of her for giving up the po0n in less than a week, month, day, a few hours, whatever. I don't think less of her for having fvcked me so easily, and I'm NOT laughing at her..but you know how women's minds get to racing and analizing every facial expression, or word you use after you come and are laying there. It's like I'll bust all heated with hair messed up and then I totally go selfish and just want to get away from her, I no longer need/want her, and I think that hurts her feelings, but...that's why I move on to the next one. It's hard to be sensitive enough to these weak beings, they just covet your attention and acceptance all the time.

 

[snowdog]

I had sex the last 3 days, and I jerked off in between those times.

Never felt better.

 

[Cherokee]

Well its a fact that jacking off decreases your testosterone afterwards.

You become lethargic and lose motivation.

I have recently cut down to maybe twice a week at the most? it's bad to have so much pressure on the tubes in your testicles constantly (medical fact) so you should relieve yourself once in a while.

But now I'm getting out of bed feeling fresh after 5 hours sleep a night, and I still feel full of energy.

Couple that with a healthy diet and I'm on my way to being a spartan.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I feel so ashamed...

I've been masturbating to this very thread.

Just kidding. I'm not ashamed!

 

[Bonafide]

Has anyone noticed that when they don't wack off, and when they look in the mirror, that they look better?

Yes

 

[jdawgmcb]

I think im gonna try this...so far day 1.

 

[MrMoist]

what if my girlfriend blueballs me? Seriously she expects and hour of rolling around in bed with me caressing her and kissing her neck but doesn't return the favor because she thinks it's "too early in the relationship" to be playing with my genitals.

i mean what the hell else can i do besides masturbate?

 

[snowdog]

Has anyone noticed that when they don't wack off, and when they look in the mirror, that they look better?

Ever tried looking in the mirror WHILE masturbating? You'll look REALLY GOOD when you do that.

what if my girlfriend blueballs me? Seriously she expects and hour of rolling around in bed with me caressing her and kissing her neck but doesn't return the favor because she thinks it's "too early in the relationship" to be playing with my genitals.

i mean what the hell else can i do besides masturbate?

Turn up the heat foo. I found out that girls really like to f*ck, but you need to make her horny. If she's your girlfriend for a while now and if she doesn't put out after an hour, kick her out of your ****ing house.

 

[Energy25]

Has anyone noticed that when they don't wack off, and when they look in the mirror, that they look better?

Yes this is just another one of the many benefits of not masturbating. Keep it up guys.

 

[PDubb75]

I started reading the masterbation thread, and found it interesting, but I didn't really think much into it. I only MBed about 2-3 times/week, so I figured it was a non-issue.

Lately (last 3 months) I've been so busy that I really haven't had the time to. I never thought I wouldn't have time to masterbate, but it's true. At least to the point that, when I do have time, my mind is still so full I don't even think about it now.

I havent MB for about 4 weeks now, and it was about 3 weeks without it before that last time. So, 1 time in the last 7 weeks. And I feel incredible. Much more motivation to get to the gym, I feel that I look better, I feel I have more energy, I'm more relaxed around people (in the sense of nerves not building up, not in the sense of "laid back"), etc.

The crazy part about this was I never planned to do this. It just happened. And the longer I went, the less I wanted to, or felt the need to. I've noticed better interactions with women, which has skyrocketted my confidence, as I still consider myself a noobie here.

And not to mention how much better it feels to orgasm when you havent jerked off in a while.

 

[Swift Shadow]

I've always been an adovocate of non masturbation but i have a question.

Wouldn't wet dreams reset the process by releasing sexual tension, obviously it's natural (not everyone has them) but it would suck going weeks building massive sexual tension and feeling incredible only to have it reset due to a wet dream.

 

[HariPoter13]

I've always been an adovocate of non masturbation but i have a question.

Wouldn't wet dreams reset the process by releasing sexual tension, obviously it's natural (not everyone has them) but it would suck going weeks building massive sexual tension and feeling incredible only to have it reset due to a wet dream.

No, its all about the dopamine release. By having a 'wet dream' you dont have that dopamine release that happens when you jack it off. And the dopamine is the reason why masturbating is so addictive.


When i think about it, masturbating isnt bad per se. But its bad if you are addicted. Youre in the same situation as an alcoholic thats been sober. He must never drink again. Why? Because he wont be able to control himself after having 'just one drink'. He loses all that for which he worked hard. All those months of being sober gone down the drain. Its like he never quit in the first place. And its even worse, he'll be hating himself for loosing it and he'll drink even more to make himself numb.


And for the reasons stated above, I've quit watching porn and stopped masturbating for good.

 

[snowdog]

I've always been an adovocate of non masturbation but i have a question.

Wouldn't wet dreams reset the process by releasing sexual tension, obviously it's natural (not everyone has them) but it would suck going weeks building massive sexual tension and feeling incredible only to have it reset due to a wet dream.

Sure it does.

It's also natural to masturbate.

If you have sex and come inside a chick, it also gets reset. So guys who get laid all the time must be really weak guys without much testosterone.

Just look at the logic behind this abstaining. It's ridiculous.

 

[Veridin]

Ejaculating through masturbation releases only one fifth of the endorphines that you get from ejaculating during sexual intercourse. You know what you are chasing, and you know that you get only a pittance. So naturally it can be demoralizing.

Snowdog, I don't get your point here. Why do you react so aggressively at the thought of some guys finding motivation in abstinence from masturbation? If it motivates them, then why not let it be? I certainly agree with those who say that you feel different when you're not masturbating, and that feeling can give you a push.

A sharp knife and a dull knife are to 99 percent the same: same materials, same composition. Yet that edge, such a small thing, makes all the difference. Having something to give you extra motivation when you get out there - knowing that real sex is the only way you'll get to come - can be that edge. It's like when you're studying and you deny yourself anything sugary until you have memorized your homework. People do these kind of things. In this case it happens to be MB abstinence.

 

[Groovy]

I've gone like two months without masturbation. It had some good times and bad times.

Then I started to masturbate like one day yes, another day no. It was alright.

Then, in one day I masturbated like twice and twice the next one, and like once or twice the day after or even three times. I can't really remember...

I was screwed for like 5 days!!

Only now I am starting to regain myself. It drained my energy. The one that runs through your body. In your nerves. That energy makes you strong, fresh, fit, relaxed yet powerful! Your aura becomes fly.

But when I went NO MB, it was too much, it also wasn't ideal. It is like the saying: Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

You can read about this in a more scientific way in herballove.com

They recommend about 3-4 times a week. For me, at this point, would be about three. But it can be 5 if you are very healthy.

If you stop all together, this could also be bad. But you may have to stop for a few weeks if you have been doing it too much, to let your body rest and replenish itself.

Go to herballove.com and search about it. There is gold in that website. I haven't read much yet.

BTW thanks for your posts guys. IMO some of them are cool.

I used to think that no masturbation, ever, was the way to go too. I even recommended it to other people. I am glad I have corrected that stuff. It was seriously lame of me! My opinion changed. I am glad it did. It was thanks to this forum, too. If no one had said nothing to my posts, maybe I would now be on three months of no MB, who knows? <3 SS.

 

[Iceberg]

Ejaculating through masturbation releases only one fifth of the endorphines that you get from ejaculating during sexual intercourse. You know what you are chasing, and you know that you get only a pittance. So naturally it can be demoralizing.

So what you're saying is that sex actually expends more lifeforce and energy than masturbating?

Great. I can MB, and then have some endorphins left over for sex.

Snowdog, I don't get your point here. Why do you react so aggressively at the thought of some guys finding motivation in abstinence from masturbation? If it motivates them, then why not let it be? I certainly agree with those who say that you feel different when you're not masturbating, and that feeling can give you a push.

If this motivates guys and gives them something to focus on, more power to them.

The issue is when people start talking about this as if we're dealing with proven facts. "It gives you more energy" blah blah... My MB habits have nothing to do with my energy levels. I can get busy in life, and two weeks without MB or I can do it every night for 2 weeks. No change in my life whatsoever. Between December and January, I had sex with 6 different women. I probably MB'ed every night that I WASN'T having sex. There was no libido change...no energy change...no negative or positive effects.

The problem is, the guys who try this are doing it because they're unsuccessful with women and they're looking for a change. And because they're looking so hard for a change, they'll attribute change to whatever new is going on in their life. So if you wake up tomorrow feeling great, you'll tell yourself "I feel great because I didn't MB" when in reality it's all in your head.

Now maybe it helps you emotionally to have something to hang onto. That's fair and that's fine. But it's going to take some serious hardcore facts to convince me that there's a REAL benefit to not MBing. Not "herbalsex.com" or "Anti-MB.net".

People have been creating myths about MB since the dawn of time. Our parents generation said that it caused pimples, hair palms, lack of fertility, etc. Let's be real...if that were true, the world would be nothing but a bunch of zit-faced, hairy palmed, infertile men.

 

[HariPoter13]

Day 120 for me

 

[Groovy]

Masturbating too much is bad. Masturbating too little is also bad! HariPoter, you are friggin 22. Do yourself a favor and jack off. How frequently do you have wet dreams?

 

[Nimm]

I was doing it way too much...

I posted a reply it the thread i started, regarding what i thought was a "low sex drive" : "I`ve decided to do a follow up on my thread, reagarding my "problem".

I was reading diffrent post`s and stumbled upon a link in VICE`S sig..
"Your brain on porn"

I started reading the page out of curiosity, and it made more and more sense to me.

What? im addicted/messed up from porn?

Yup, it makes sense....

Haveing sex with my gf the first time was easy, but it went boring after the second time....

No matter what she does, im not getting aroused.. So i had to start thinking about porn to get aroused(mhhh Jenna jameson does this... belladonna this..
You get the idea...)

The signes were there a year or two ago, but it never hit my mind because i wasn`t with the same girl long enough.

Drinking in the week days to get by, you`ve got an addiction..

Smoking two 20packs a day, you`ve got an addiction..

Watching internet porn an hour or two a day, YES YOU`VE GOT AN ADDICTION.

So i urge, if there is anyone else in the same "rut" as me.

Check out http://yourbrainonporn.com/"

Am i gonna stop mastrubating? hell no, but i need to do it ALOT less
But doing it to much to porn, can leave you in the addicted state ex: not getting turned on by the same woman twice.

You hear about male celeberties haveing "sex addiction" in the tabloids, and assume they get to much pu$$y, nope addicted to internet porn

 

[snowdog]

Snowdog, I don't get your point here. Why do you react so aggressively at the thought of some guys finding motivation in abstinence from masturbation? If it motivates them, then why not let it be? I certainly agree with those who say that you feel different when you're not masturbating, and that feeling can give you a push.

I'll try to explain. People always try to find a magic pill for something, especially in today's society where you can "lose 10 pounds a week without doing anything" and don't have to get your ass off the couch to even rent a movie anymore. This whole idea is the exact same thing. These guys think "I'll stop waxing my carrot and all will be fine eventually.". It just doesn't work that way. Life isn't easy like that.

And spare me the whole testosterone and endorphines bullsh*t. It's a cute story, but I don't buy it. There are countless of examples out there that show the exact opposite. I'm getting on a side-track here, but that's another big problem. You guys put way too much thought into this instead of actually taking control of your life and start to do something about it. Who do you think has a better chance of getting laid? The guy who didn't jerk off for 120 days but doesn't approach girls, or the guy who jerks off almost every day and approaches girls left and right?

Again, I'm not saying you should monkey around and jerk off 3 times a day, but there's nothing wrong with it if you keep it under control. It's just like drinking, with the difference that it doesn't cost any money. Not jerking off for weeks or even months is just plain ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if it will lower your testosterone eventually because you don't seem to need it anyway. That's how our body works, think about it. It tries to be efficient and not to waste energy on stuff you don't use. That's why you get weaker if you stop working out.

And besides, doctors know for a fact that masturbating greatly (like 5-7 times) reduces the chances of prostate cancer. There's another reason for you.

Look up "Placebo effect" and "Magic Pill Syndrome" to get the definition that a shrink will tell you if he stumbled across this f*ckin abortion of a thread.

Be honest with yourself and try to find the real issue you're struggling with. This goofy theory has never really helped anyone. Like I said before: life isn't easy that way. And if you need to stop jerking off for a month to get motivated to walk up to girls, maybe you don't want it enough in the first place.

Stop making weak horse-sh*t excuses like this and get the f*ck out of your house and walk up to some chicks..., you goddamn wussies. Don't call me an ass-hole because I'm trying to help, and deep down you guys know I'm right.