Where are all the quality ladies?

[Rollo Tomassi]

Rather than throwing rocks at IQQI's glass house, I'll just leave you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw

Was this guy trying to "add quality to his life" or was she "just a Ho?"

 

[Poonani Maker]

Long story short: If you meet a woman with a good family life and moral upbringing, with no mental illnesses and no history of cheating, the statistical likelihood of her cheating on you is significantly lower than one with a poor family life, BPD, and a history of cheating. I would term the former as a "quality woman," based on those quantifiable observables.

I agree with what you wrote, and I would buy your ebook if you had one. To add, if those ones with a good family life, moral upbringing, with no mental illnesses and no history of cheating were to Not be tucked away in a church by her either arranged or introduced good boy/man fiance/husband, then a good 80% of THOSE even would stray. If not sheltered from the world from the slew of preying guys out there today, she'd become a wanton slvt we know almost all of them are. They're helpless to think for themselves (see cellphone pinned to their fvckin ear). They must be Physically shielded from the world to be kept, these quote good ("quality") ones unquote. Also, if you intend to keep one of those after marriage, then your absolute best bet would be to chain her up (not literally) in a house you just bought in a sparsely populated state like Wyoming. If FACT, a lot of men do this very thing to their pristine wife, and there have been stories of this protection of wives (property) in the papers (local mostly) and on the radio programs (npr etc) that criticize to death these men who are known to do that. The criticizers, of course, are ultra liberal, ultra feminitst, and seek to disrupt ANY man who chooses to shield his own wife from the outside world for the purpose of keeping his family intact for life.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I agree with what you wrote, and I would buy your ebook if you had one. To add, if those ones with a good family life, moral upbringing, with no mental illnesses and no history of cheating were to Not be tucked away in a church by her either arranged or introduced good boy/man fiance/husband, then a good 80% of THOSE even would stray. If not sheltered from the world from the slew of preying guys out there today, she'd become a wanton slvt we know almost all of them are. They're helpless to think for themselves (see cellphone pinned to their fvckin ear). They must be Physically shielded from the world to be kept, these quote good ("quality") ones unquote. Also, if you intend to keep one of those after marriage, then your absolute best bet would be to chain her up (not literally) in a house you just bought in a sparsely populated state like Wyoming. If FACT, a lot of men do this very thing to their pristine wife, and there have been stories of this protection of wives (property) in the papers (local mostly) and on the radio programs (npr etc) that criticize to death these men who are known to do that. The criticizers, of course, are ultra liberal, ultra feminitst, and seek to disrupt ANY man who chooses to shield his own wife from the outside world for the purpose of keeping his family intact for life.

I completely agree. A woman is only as honest and quality as her options and enviroment. Women are like children and if not kept in line fall into all kinds of mischief and misbehavior. You take your former quality GF or wife and let her loose in a career and to hang out with anybody and everybody, and both the men and women will make it their life mission to corrupt her, turn her against you, and try to break you apart. Every a-hole will be trying to fvck her and take her away from you, and females will be filling her head with with garbage about how she deserves better than you and that she is treating you too good. Like you said, even when a guy has his woman protected against all the people that would corrupt her, the villians even write news stories trying and hoping to screw up those perfectly fine relationships.

In most of the marriage I've seen that last indefinitely, weren;t the guy being all "alpha" and always gaming his wife right, but the man sheltered the woman away from others' influence.

 

[Jeffst1980]

I completely agree. A woman is only as honest and quality as her options and enviroment. Women are like children and if not kept in line fall into all kinds of mischief and misbehavior. You take your former quality GF or wife and let her loose in a career and to hang out with anybody and everybody, and both the men and women will make it their life mission to corrupt her, turn her against you, and try to break you apart. Every a-hole will be trying to fvck her and take her away from you, and females will be filling her head with with garbage about how she deserves better than you and that she is treating you too good. Like you said, even when a guy has his woman protected against all the people that would corrupt her, the villians even write news stories trying and hoping to screw up those perfectly fine relationships.

In most of the marriage I've seen that last indefinitely, weren;t the guy being all "alpha" and always gaming his wife right, but the man sheltered the woman away from others' influence.

I think this is true to a point, but I don't think it has to do with the inherent nature of women as much as it does with having too many options. Most guys simply have nowhere NEAR as many options for potential partners as a cute girl; if they did, they probably wouldn't be settling down, either. In general, women are naturally more passive and easily led than men, but they still retain the good sense to realize when they're playing a dangerous game.

Environment DOES play a huge factor, and that's why it's wise to limit her exposure to orbiter AFC/ miserable single friends/ slick players. Again- if you're giving her everything she needs, she will instinctively avoid these types.

Also, age is a HUGE factor. If you're dating a 21 year old that is an aspiring actress and bartends at night, you shouldn't really complain that she isn't committed.

 

[Burroughs]

Rather than throwing rocks at IQQI's glass house, I'll just leave you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw

Was this guy trying to "add quality to his life" or was she "just a Ho?"

that was rough!

 

[jwhite17]

Rollo,

That was depressing to watch!! I bet that guy never proposes again...

 

[Ninja Dude]

Where are all the quality ladies?

I fücked them all. /THREAD



j/k - the best answer you will get here is "it depends"

You have to build a strategy for meeting women that is congruent with your expectations of them. Just an example from my own life, I appreciate a woman who not only cooks but knows her food & wine. For some people this is worthless but for me it adds quality. The best place to meet these ladies is:

- Produce section
- Decent restaurants (no fast food!)
- Wine tastings
- Cooking courses

Another criteria for me is fitness. I like my women pretty toned (not ripped) so I make sure to hit up yoga, spinning and pilates at least 3 times a week. I am usually the only guy there and so many fine asses I have trouble picking a target.

Anyways you get the point. I'm just tired of hearing guys complain about "quality women" when they are going to the same dive bars and sleazy clubs. I mean DUH!

As for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw

Was this guy trying to "add quality to his life" or was she "just a Ho?"

"Just a Ho" yep that really MUST be it. There is no chance that she just wasn't feeling this chump with his sycophantic admiration or that maybe it was just too soon. Nah. She was definitely getting gang-banged by at least several giant c0cks because all females are wired for hypergamy and will gargle multiple loads of cüm at a time given the opportunity. They are just waiting for it to happen

I'm all for destroying pedestals, but let's not run to the other extreme and put all these bîtches in a well. A little apprehension is healthy - too much of anything is no good for you.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

In answer to the original question of the post, the welfare state and the liberal media has bred them out of existence.

In a world where depravity is celebrated and virtue is mocked, maybe you'll get lucky and meet a rebellious woman of virtue.

 

[Jeffst1980]

Rather than throwing rocks at IQQI's glass house, I'll just leave you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw

Was this guy trying to "add quality to his life" or was she "just a Ho?"

Funny video, but completely fake- it's from a viral marketing campaign.

 

[Zunder]

Rather than throwing rocks at IQQI's glass house, I'll just leave you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw

Was this guy trying to "add quality to his life" or was she "just a Ho?"

Just a Ho.
Mind you, what a **** asking her in a Mall.
And fvck that getting on your knees crap.

This one is just as bad.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-sCIf57DKY&feature=related

 

[MatureDJ]

...the first evaluation a man can't help but make is to size her up as a sexual prospect. Beyond that, everything else is conditional.

This is the case for myself. Even when being introduced to the woman who is to be boss, my first thought is always "would I want to bang her?" Once that is quickly out of my mind, I go on to size her up in the proper non-sexual way. The same thing when meeting my sister's friends/acquaintances. About the only women I have not done so have been women of my mother's generation (i.e., her friends, my aunts, my friend's mothers, etc.) And yes, I have certainly done it with my niece's friends (although obviously I hadn't been acting on it as they were high school chicks! )

 

[Duffdog]

I have been following this thread silently for a while. It seems there are a few paradigm shifts that have occurred since the time I posted regularly.

One: For some reason, males have simply decided that women in their 20's aren't sluts anymore. That's weird. I thought this board was populated by men who can call a spade a spade.

Two: Males are listening to the words of a female about females? WTF? IQQI, unfortunately, due to the physical structure of the female brain, you (and the rest of the other females in the world) are incapable of offering up any type of non-subjective argument. Everything that you say or think is tainted by your emotions whether you like it or not. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is what drives 100% of the decisions a female makes in her life. Before you say "NUH-UH!!, women are awesome and you just have a small pen15!!!!!!" try to think objectively about what I said... its hard, huh!


To the original poster-- the answer to your question is obvious. The "quality" women you seek are located where there is money. End of story. Wherever there is a high concentration of potential millionaires, quality women congregate. Examples of this would be: San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, Paris, etc... In other words, not in Fresno.

And to the males who incessantly believe that all women aren't sluts, there is a qualifier which makes your argument potentially true! HOT women are sluts, non-hot women are not. Its that easy. All women wish that they could be f_cking millionaire doctors with huge pen15's, but only hot women get to do so. The rest of the women don't get to--though they would love to with every fiber of their existence, they aren't allowed to get near the alpha males because they can't compete with the hot girls.

There is a potentially damaging resurgence of a theory which I hate to see repeated. The theory that an average guy can "keep" a hot quality girl just by being himself and "maintaining the frame"...HA ha ha ha ha! NO. that is not how it works. I used to target hot girls with average guys because I knew that they would sleep with me, and you wanna know a secret:...It always worked! Hot girls are sluts-- it has been their dream since the moment that their gynie tingled the very first time! Unfortunately for you average guys, she is not your slut (I love that term) she is the slut of whichever alpha male gets to nail all the sluts. Don't forget, when she goes home to her normal husband with a 9-5 who makes 85k a year, she isn't a slut anymore and he gets to feel like he "got a quality woman."

The idea that a woman will F every bad boy and alpha male she can until her looks fade and she then is forced to settle with some chump to survive because she can no longer attract any alphas...is true beyond measure!

The only message that this site should be promoting is to BE an alpha male. If you can't figure out some way to be one, you are screwed for the rest of your life and shall be forever doomed to posting on websites wondering why the world is unfair and no hot girls like you. Or, even worse, listening to the non scientific drivel of some chic trying her best to give you advise about something when her only motivation is to garner more attention to herself online due to her inability to attract the attention of males she really wants with her looks in the real world.

 

[smooth_as_silk]

In answer to the original question of the post, the welfare state and the liberal media has bred them out of existence.

In a world where depravity is celebrated and virtue is mocked, maybe you'll get lucky and meet a rebellious woman of virtue.

a gem... probably one of the best contributions.

 

[Burroughs]

The idea that a woman will F every bad boy and alpha male she can until her looks fade and she then is forced to settle with some chump to survive because she can no longer attract any alphas...is true beyond measure!

The only message that this site should be promoting is to BE an alpha male.

100% true.

And the really in demand women will find the most beta, alpha to settle with and not really settle at all. K Kardashian, Giselle (Dicaprio was with her in her early 20s and she marries Brady who is filmed tampon shopping for her)

 

[AlNess]

This is one of those endless sosuave debates that ultimately goes nowhere, because no one can agree on the definition of "quality."

Regardless, I can't resist.

Of course girls comes with a wide variety of moral compasses, just the same as guys. It depends largely on their upbringing, on their relationship with their parents (and their parents' relationship itself), and their life experiences. The idea that you can take a girl that's been faithful to her boyfriend for 4 years and turn her into a gangbanging slvt is about as realistic as thinking that a guy with "perfect game" can seduce every single woman he meets. Faithful girls will STILL feel attraction for new men, but they will RESIST entering any situation that might cause them to stray. The fact that they could, in theory, cheat if someone pushes the right buttons is kind of like saying we are all capable of murder if we're pushed far enough. It's exhausting and kind of pointless to view everyone in terms of their base desires when there is such a wide spectrum of observable real-world human behavior.

Sure, "Quality" girls (which, for the sake of this post, I'll define as a woman that is statistically likely to remain monogamous, so long as her partner upholds his end of the bargain) may still have slvtty things in their past, but "slvtty" for them is probably more along the lines of a one night stand with a guy that was funny and nice and a friend of a friend...not getting eiffel towered by some random thugs in a coke den.

If you spend a lot of time in clubs and bars, it's easy to come to the conclusion that biological imperatives reign supreme. But, remember- there is a whole subset of women that won't set foot in a bar. A girl that is very introverted will respond much better to a guy that creates a strong emotional connection than to the "player."

I do agree that women are more conscious of the power of their sexuality than men--us men have a near constant drive for sex, and this manifests itself in the premium that society places on women (Men are expected to perform dangerous tasks and go to war; "women and children first," etc.). However, men have an analogous awareness of the importance of their social status. They don't take pictures of themselves in bathroom mirrors; instead, they go out and build wealth. Of course, there are men that care little about status and money, just as there are girls that care little about their appearance.

Long story short: If you meet a woman with a good family life and moral upbringing, with no mental illnesses and no history of cheating, the statistical likelihood of her cheating on you is significantly lower than one with a poor family life, BPD, and a history of cheating. I would term the former as a "quality woman," based on those quantifiable observables.

All good points.

The position some guys here hold about women just being malleable creatures who can be corrupted if put in the wrong type of environment is an oversimplification. Contrary to common belief around here, some women CAN and DO think for themselves.

One of the things that drew me to my wife was that she possesses (and was raised with) conservative values, is family-oriented, was never a club ho, and has always been very selective regarding who she's friends with. Of the FEW people she keeps as "friends," only one is single. She doesn't do the "girl's night out" thing (she even refused having a bachelorette party thrown for her; I declined the offers I got for a bachelor party as well). She had only two boyfriends before meeting me, one of which she was in a relationship with for 10 years before finally dumping him because he didn't want to take the relationship (and himself) to the next level and wanted to remain a man-child (mega gaming/comic book-collecting geek). No past of promiscuity, one-night stands, or "chronic dating." And definitely no "guy friends." Furthermore, she's actually a "mama's girl;" and I like that.

Guys who think they'll find quality women at CLUBS have their heads up their arse. These are places where you will find an overabundance of women whose PRIMARY values are "being hot" and phukkable, and who like to lush around, posting pics of themselves buzzed and holding a drink on Facebook; that ain't quality, dudes.

All this over-emphasis on the pseudo-science of evolutionary psychology and all the rhetoric about these flimsy notions of biological imperatives might hold SOME water to an extent; but if the whole spiel about males needing to spread their seed widely to ensure the survival of one's genes is going to mean anything, it is to be in the context of creating a family, and not in terms of dumping one's seed into a condom or all over the face of a hot girl one met at a club.

 

[Duffdog]

One of the things that drew me to my wife was that she possesses (and was raised with) conservative values, is family-oriented, was never a club ho, and has always been very selective regarding who she's friends with. Of the FEW people she keeps as "friends," only one is single. She doesn't do the "girl's night out" thing (she even refused having a bachelorette party thrown for her; I declined the offers I got for a bachelor party as well). She had only two boyfriends before meeting me, one of which she was in a relationship with for 10 years before finally dumping him because he didn't want to take the relationship (and himself) to the next level and wanted to remain a man-child (mega gaming/comic book-collecting geek). No past of promiscuity, one-night stands, or "chronic dating." And definitely no "guy friends." Furthermore, she's actually a "mama's girl;" and I like that.

Guys who think they'll find quality women at CLUBS have their heads up their arse. These are places where you will find an overabundance of women whose PRIMARY values are "being hot" and phukkable, and who like to lush around, posting pics of themselves buzzed and holding a drink on Facebook; that ain't quality, dudes.

All this over-emphasis on the pseudo-science of evolutionary psychology and all the rhetoric about these flimsy notions of biological imperatives might hold SOME water to an extent; but if the whole spiel about males needing to spread their seed widely to ensure the survival of one's genes is going to mean anything, it is to be in the context of creating a family, and not in terms of dumping one's seed into a condom or all over the face of a hot girl one met at a club.

This all sounds good and everything, but you failed to mention one thing: Is she hot? If she is an average girl, then more power to you!! You are probably right about everything you said. That is exactly how average girls are.

However, I challenge you to find ANY of the qualities that you mentioned in a hot girl. Furthermore, I find it interesting that you believe that there is something wrong with girls who like "being hot". What is wrong with you? Do you have a pen15? All males (with pen15es) like attractive women, and attractive women want attractive, high value or high status males.

I bet you a box of doughnuts that the only reason that your girl was not a total slut was because she was not in high enough demand to have any situation presented to her in which she would be a slut. In other words, she most likely was not backstage with the band of her dreams, was not in a booth at a club with jay-z or george clooney and probably wasn't on a yacht with a billionaire.

The other thing that males with pen15es should never do is accept that females are ever telling the truth about their sexual past. Its always the quiet ones who get their giny ripped apart by 30 guys at a college gangbang, then claim that they have only been with 2 dudes before you. Yeah...I totally believe that one.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

One of the things that drew me to my wife was that she possesses (and was raised with) conservative values, is family-oriented, was never a club ho, and has always been very selective regarding who she's friends with. Of the FEW people she keeps as "friends," only one is single. She doesn't do the "girl's night out" thing (she even refused having a bachelorette party thrown for her; I declined the offers I got for a bachelor party as well). She had only two boyfriends before meeting me, one of which she was in a relationship with for 10 years before finally dumping him because he didn't want to take the relationship (and himself) to the next level and wanted to remain a man-child (mega gaming/comic book-collecting geek). No past of promiscuity, one-night stands, or "chronic dating." And definitely no "guy friends." Furthermore, she's actually a "mama's girl;" and I like that.

^^ Smart on your part! These attributes you've described pertain in absolutely ZERO ways to any GF I've had...and they ended no good! You are spot on in your notion of not being able to turn a hoe into a housewife...

Duffdog -- I do disagree with you man. Not every hot chick fvcks the entire neighborhood. I'm a hot guy (I'm not trying to toot my own horn) but really I consider myself rather good looking and you know what, I haven't fvcked the whole block of women...(MAYBE I SHOULD! -- recent heartbreak makes me wonder!) but really everyone has different backgrounds, value sets, and ideas of what they want....YES women are NOT innocent...but not all women, simply because they are attractive, build their entire egos around such or fvck every man they meet...I really do believe this, albeit yes probably many hot women do not act in this regard (McDonalds serves Billions of people yes? BILLIONS Just because what MOST people do and just because MOST people eat trash, doesn't mean EVERYONE does)...

 

[AlNess]

This all sounds good and everything, but you failed to mention one thing: Is she hot? If she is an average girl, then more power to you!! You are probably right about everything you said. That is exactly how average girls are.

However, I challenge you to find ANY of the qualities that you mentioned in a hot girl. Furthermore, I find it interesting that you believe that there is something wrong with girls who like "being hot". What is wrong with you? Do you have a pen15? All males (with pen15es) like attractive women, and attractive women want attractive, high value or high status males.

I bet you a box of doughnuts that the only reason that your girl was not a total slut was because she was not in high enough demand to have any situation presented to her in which she would be a slut. In other words, she most likely was not backstage with the band of her dreams, was not in a booth at a club with jay-z or george clooney and probably wasn't on a yacht with a billionaire.

My wife being as beautiful as she is obviously caught my attention, too. I didn't mention it before because it should be a given. Why would I have approached, dated, and married a woman whom I thought was unattractive? Now, is she an "HB10" by Hollywood media standards? Probably not. Now, do I CARE? Of course not. A man needs very few reasons to just pick up and fukk a woman; but he needs many reasons to marry one.

The reason my wife was never a slut AT ALL was because of her values, of which the pursuit of a jet-set lifestyle in the fast lane with athletes and rappers was never a part.

As for finding any of the qualities I mentioned before in a smokin "hot" girl? "Any," as in ONE? Maybe. As for finding ALL of the qualities I mentioned? I'm pretty sure there's no chance of that. The values and priorities of those kinds of women are not conducive to possessing ALL of the qualities I mentioned earlier.

Of course there's nothing wrong with women being hot, but I think you missed my point. Women who pour all of their time, money, heart and soul into looking hot, and value that over most things...those girls usually never end up being Ms. Right...only Ms. Right Now; which is fine for hump 'n dump (if one is into that sort of thing). Such a type is usually NOT the type that is fit for building a long-lasting marriage and family with.

The other thing that males with pen15es should never do is accept that females are ever telling the truth about their sexual past. Its always the quiet ones who get their giny ripped apart by 30 guys at a college gangbang, then claim that they have only been with 2 dudes before you. Yeah...I totally believe that one.

Adhering to that stereotype is as wrong as believing all of the feminist notions everyone is sold nowadays; that is just thinking inside of one socially designed box instead of another. Any woman who's a quiet, family-oriented "good girl" who comes from a good conservative family MUST have a history of promiscuity and depravity, and their good-girl family values are just a front? :crackup: Please.

It's never that black and white. Not every man wants to be a mega-super stud of superpower mogul status who bleeds testosterone and decimates the world with his erection. Not every woman wants that type of man, nor does everyone woman want to be the chick everyone wants to ****, and for sure, there ARE women out there who don't want to phukk their way to the very top of the Studio 54-minded social totem pole. There are also simple, middle-of-the-road guys who want and can relate to simple, middle-of-the-road women. That''s most people; and that's perfectly fine.

 

[lifeislearning]

This thread is full of the ponderings of great minds, but I don't see us getting any closer to defining a quality woman (or man for that matter) than this.

I would sooner define a "quality woman" as one who has firm self-respect than one who meets some list of intangible subjective assets that will change depending on her circumstances.

Simply from observing friends I have gathered that those who are the most promiscuous usually have the same poor self-esteem as those who go through college with no more experience between the sheets they had before. We all know a woman with no self-respect will do any nasty thing imaginable, and I'm sure we can all think of someone like that who had bottom of the barrel self-respect to boot.

Perhaps the traditional early 20's age of slore simply coincides with a period when most people experience the lowest period of confidence in their lives. I know after moving thousands of miles from home I was feeling depressed and might have easily succumbed to the worthless lifestyle typified by my housemates, but for my drive to make something of myself in a new city.

Perhaps the link between a quality woman and one that keeps her legs closed more often than not is the presence of more than a little self-respect.

 

[backbreaker]

This is the case for myself. Even when being introduced to the woman who is to be boss, my first thought is always "would I want to bang her?" Once that is quickly out of my mind, I go on to size her up in the proper non-sexual way. The same thing when meeting my sister's friends/acquaintances. About the only women I have not done so have been women of my mother's generation (i.e., her friends, my aunts, my friend's mothers, etc.) And yes, I have certainly done it with my niece's friends (although obviously I hadn't been acting on it as they were high school chicks! )

I'm the same way.



The biggest logical fallacy that we believe in the dating game, is not that women are somehow better, or smarter then men (though many honestly believe this ****), it's that somehow, there are "good" women and "bad" women, and the "key" to not being cheated on is finding a "good" woman.

Also you are making the mistake of pigeon holing someone by what they did or did not do in the past. As the investing addage goes,


PAST PERFORMANCES ARE NOT GUARANTEES FOR FUTURE RESULTS

I look at relationships like a horse race. Every horse race, has it's own unique set of circumstances, it's own pace, it's own track bias, it's own conditions, that are unique to that race. Like women, i can look up past performances of horses until I'm blue in the face, but that tells me what a horse is capable of doing, not necessarily what it will do.


Frankly I don't give a damn who my wife fvcked or how many guys she fvcked before she met me. I don't care if she's lying or not. That's all about her own vanity. I do know however, if i do what i am supposed to do, and i run the household like a man, and i stay my wife's best option, i have nothing to worry about.


It really all boils down to this. A woman, regardless of her values, her upbringing, her marriage status,her looks, her age, her sexual history, her job, her income, whatever.. will always chose what she feels is the best option for her at that time. It's really that simple. Seriously. If your wife cheats on you, it doesn't make her a *****, or evil, she simply doesn't feel that you are her best option at that point in time.

My point being, we spend alot of time trying to weed out the bad flakes, but the vast majority of the time it's all on us.

Deciding not to take a woman seriously because she did or did not have alot of sex when she was younger sounds exactly like the guy at the track who refuses to wager on a horse that did not finish in the money the last race. It's just simple mindedness, and reeks of someone more afraid to lose than he is wanting to win.f

I am a newlywed and i have no doubt my wife has been faithful to me since we have been together, not because she has great values (i think she does) or because she is a Christan (she isn't), or because i'm "putting it on her" (though I like to think i am lol), or becuase she has a great upbringing (she did), but becuase, simply put, i'm the best option for her. As long as she wakes up in the morning and feels that i am the best person for her, i have onthing to worry about. As long as I wake up in the morning and feel that she is the best option for me, she has nothing to worry about

The second i am not the person I am now, i am in trouble. it might not be now, it might not be next year, but she will be on the lookout.

And for all the talk about women, if she gained 20 pounds, and don't take to my subtle hints she needs to drop the weight, we are going to have an issue. By by issue i mean i'm going to be gone. And i like to think i'm a prety stand up guy.


The problem is that people make sex a moral issue and it's far from it. A woman who enjoys sex is not a low quality woman, necessarily. That doesn't even make sense when you sit down and think about it, considering this entire site's premise is to screw women. As rollo suggested, it's extremely instinctive, and the more you realize it the less likely you are to be "cheated" on.

"best option" is subjective. Best option doesn't necessarily mean someone with more money, or better looking or younger. I think Natile portman is just the cutest little thing on earth, but if she met me in Starbucks tomororw and slid me her number i'd toss it and not think twice about it. my woman is a better option for me, as for what i am looking for in my life


Make no mistake, i'm not saying don't screen women. It's still important to screen a woman, if you want your life as drama free as possible. But do not make the msitake of thinking that you "got a good one" and that she "won't cheat". I assure you that the right situation can bring it out of her.


This reminds me of a time in my AFC past, hell you can even look it up on here on this forum i posted about it, back in i want to say 2005. Right when my company "hit it big" so to speak and i started seeing some results in my own personal life, the new crib, the new car, the new wardrobe, the going out all the time... the girl that brought me here, her boyfriend was going through some serious depression.

i had been trying to get this girl in bed since my mid teen's and she wasn't having it. in retrospect, in her eyes she wasn't NOT attracted to me but she wanted attracted to me enough to do antyhing with me, but she kept me around because i think she thought i had some potential (and she was right).

So; one day he tires to kill himself. it's like at that moment the light went off in her head and she made "the switch". At that point i was the better option. Now she was over my house everyday, going out with me, she was laying it on quite thick. we made out a few times even. she wouldn't give it up, or break up with him yet, but in retrospect that's because she did not want to do that considering her BF had just tried to kill himself, but she made it quite clear once he was in the clear she was gone, and she was. they lasted maybe 3 more weeks, right about the time he got home and settled in.

Besides her liking of guys with money, and besides being smoking hot not really bringing anything else to the table, she was quite normal. no drug habits, doesn't even really drink, never actually cheated on any guy she's been with, . she's married now and they are doing pretty good form what i understand. And I know exactly why she married the guy she's with. He's admitty a pretty handsome guy (We all went on a double date last year), but she "sees where he will be" in 10-15 years. his dad is the VP of the news station she works for. She is projecting him to be something.

If he doesn't become, what she projects him to be, and in turn let her live the life she thinks she deserves to live, i guarantee you she would be out the door.