When they turn, they turn fast

[meldiamond]

Prenups are difficult to enforce since marriage and family law are actually gynocratic and feminist law. The entire goal of this branch of the "jewdicial" system is to rob men of their property and children and hand it over to women.

A trad woman cannot actually exist under such circumstances. She can only maintain this charade until the first argument, first slap, or first infidelity and then she will divorce you and take everything you have.

This is why as I have put it, we are all walking on eggshells. The slighest breeze and a trad wife can file for divorce and the house and children and assets and half your earnings are gone.

 

[BeExcellent]

Marriage should be a partnership with a common goal in mind. However, nowadays, this is not the case and should be avoided at all costs.

Here's the thing. It depends on the two individuals involved and the values, character and commitment each one brings to the relationship. There ARE young couples even in today's climate who stick together with character.

since I believe we're in a similar business, real estate, if you're assets and income were cut by 60% due to equitable distribution and all that other crap, would you be able to rebuild your company (or companies) back to 100%?

Yes I agree with you. The single most important negotiation of my life was the negotiation of my divorce with my ex husband. My goal was to stay the hell out of family court for exactly the reason you note. I would have been cut in half financially had it gone to court and I would not have recovered in time to be a parent at home with my kids. My ex and I are both decent people fortunately. He knew I had worked like crazy to create a passive income stream for the express purpose of buying back my time and he knew that if he cut the income engine in half I'd never get to be a parent while the kids were still school age. While I gave up being a mom when they were young, allowed him to be an at home dad, and earned the income. So he took nothing from me in the divorce. He waived spousal obligatory spousal support AND child support. I do not pay those in an official sense.

However...

Because he trusted me (a tremendous amount) to forego those things I made him a promise. I promised I would support the family (him included) as I always have, (but on my terms since my income, although high, can be erratic) that I will buy him a car (done) and a pay for house outright for him (he has to decide where he wants to own), and that I will continue to contribute to him financially from the real estate income for the rest of his life. I have set up a trust that does exactly that. In the divorce he gave up all rights to any of the real estate. Quit claimed everything, notarized everything. I could leave him high and dry. Except that I will not do that on principle.

My BF has already expressed objection to the arrangement should we end up together for the duration. I simply explained it thusly to the BF: This is the promise I made. My ex trusted me and did not cut me in half financially during the divorce. Therefore I will honor my end of the bargain. That is final and not up for discussion. The BF didn't like that, but I'm not going to go back on my word to my ex. Under ANY circumstances. The trust protects against anyone being opportunistic on my end, and on my ex's end.

And I have actually doubled my holdings since the divorce, which benefits all involved. I will certainly note that we have a most unusual arrangement but it works for us and it serves the stated purpose.

 

[meldiamond]

Thank you your high and mighty and exalted one. Please, before you grace us with your intelligence and insight, may you once again, deign to bestow upon just a few more stories regarding your otherworldly beauty and grace, in a manner reflecting your ineluctable (that is irresistible) charm?

Men, with our sophistry and clumsiness, can only approximate the truth; truly we are but barbarians, and you can see right through us, as you but laugh with the whimsical grace of a matrician and benevolent spirit guide and whisperer. Wonder upon wonders we took SO LONG to recognize your true genius and profound grace and timeless beauty.

Thank you, oh thank you divine one for posting 2,139 times! If only you could an infinite number of times reflecting your infinite truth and wisdom! Oh divine woman, nay goddess! How glorious your treasure! What would we do without you, 50 years old yet timeless! Ushering in sexual desires of teenage boys and middle aged gynecologists alike! You are a wonder woman for sure. May we be blessed with your beauty, charm and wisdom throughout the ages!

You will be remembered and cherished....

I agree with the consensus here. I'll add this:

This is a woman who knows she has value and is the sort of traditional woman many men would like to have.

At her age I too would have refused a pre-nup. I wanted to be a wife & build a life no matter what with a life partner. My plan was get married once & stay that way. Many young women see a pre-nup as a back door exit from total commitment to the marriage. I saw the requirement (then) of a pre-nup as a hard deal breaker. She is behaving as though she does too.

She won't compromise so that's that. She cuts her losses & moves on to other options. It's more about her principles than her not desiring you. She thinks the pre-nup makes the marriage conditional and she's not OK with that. In her mind this is the self respecting thing to do.

She cannot understand the pragmatic (and very real) legitimate concerns that you have. I do not plan to marry again. And if I did I'd require a strong pre-nup to protect my children and my assets that produce my income. That is the sensible thing to do in your situation. But you guys are hard core deal breaker incompatible on this point.

 

[R.U.G.]

Prenups are difficult to enforce since marriage and family law are actually gynocratic and feminist law. The entire goal of this branch of the "jewdicial" system is to rob men of their property and children and hand it over to women.

A trad woman cannot actually exist under such circumstances. She can only maintain this charade until the first argument, first slap, or first infidelity and then she will divorce you and take everything you have.

This is why as I have put it, we are all walking on eggshells. The slighest breeze and a trad wife can file for divorce and the house and children and assets and half your earnings are gone.

Stop with the religious attacks. Just because a person is Jewish doesn't mean they are bad. Not all people from all ethnic and religious backgrounds are bad or evil.

 

[R.U.G.]

Here's the thing. It depends on the two individuals involved and the values, character and commitment each one brings to the relationship. There ARE young couples even in today's climate who stick together with character.



Yes I agree with you. The single most important negotiation of my life was the negotiation of my divorce with my ex husband. My goal was to stay the hell out of family court for exactly the reason you note. I would have been cut in half financially had it gone to court and I would not have recovered in time to be a parent at home with my kids. My ex and I are both decent people fortunately. He knew I had worked like crazy to create a passive income stream for the express purpose of buying back my time and he knew that if he cut the income engine in half I'd never get to be a parent while the kids were still school age. While I gave up being a mom when they were young, allowed him to be an at home dad, and earned the income. So he took nothing from me in the divorce. He waived spousal obligatory spousal support AND child support. I do not pay those in an official sense.

However...

Because he trusted me (a tremendous amount) to forego those things I made him a promise. I promised I would support the family (him included) as I always have, (but on my terms since my income, although high, can be erratic) that I will buy him a car (done) and a pay for house outright for him (he has to decide where he wants to own), and that I will continue to contribute to him financially from the real estate income for the rest of his life. I have set up a trust that does exactly that. In the divorce he gave up all rights to any of the real estate. Quit claimed everything, notarized everything. I could leave him high and dry. Except that I will not do that on principle.

My BF has already expressed objection to the arrangement should we end up together for the duration. I simply explained it thusly to the BF: This is the promise I made. My ex trusted me and did not cut me in half financially during the divorce. Therefore I will honor my end of the bargain. That is final and not up for discussion. The BF didn't like that, but I'm not going to go back on my word to my ex. Under ANY circumstances. The trust protects against anyone being opportunistic on my end, and on my ex's end.

And I have actually doubled my holdings since the divorce, which benefits all involved. I will certainly note that we have a most unusual arrangement but it works for us and it serves the stated purpose.

You are a rare breed my friend. That is overly generous of you; a rarity these days. I offered my ex-wife (really short marriage) 10k cash to walk away, she threw the agreement back at me and I just said we'll play hardball then. She got nothing but moving expenses, rent expenses and some legal bills.

This is why I always go back to the saying, no good deed goes undone. Again, they do not make women like you much anymore. You're a stand-up person, and that is to be greatly admired by all.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I would simply say that the marriage paradigm just didn't work for me the way it was supposed to, and I don't want to have such legal entanglements ever again. And you have a daughter who could inherit everything from you, so that's even a better excuse for avoid this entanglement.

I don't quite comprehend why men checkout of the dating market with cratered smv long before ever reaching their peak.

Agree as well on your retort. Marriage should be a partnership with a common goal in mind. However, nowadays, this is not the case and should be avoided at all costs. A person can always find another partner, but can they recoup the money, time and assets lost in a divorce? The only one's who win are the lawyers; I hate family law attorneys. I was hoping President Trump would had signed an executive order to have all of them blindfolded and shot.

What it was and what it us now present day isn't the same thing. Its been known back in the old testament as to the piece of **** lawyers are. The good news being, if smart, you can go around them, and people are.

@BeExcellent, since I believe we're in a similar business, real estate, if you're assets and income were cut by 60% due to equitable distribution and all that other crap, would you be able to rebuild your company (or companies) back to 100%? I know it would probably destroy me financially; if not mentally as well. I am not even counting the emotional and legal toll that a divorce puts on a person. I just couldn't put myself through it again. As @DEEZEDBRAH always says, there's always another woman around the corner. Horrible way to look at it right now, but that is how the family court system works.

I had a fling with a random chick on the early side of twenty. I don't even remember her name. Seriously, I go through women quicker then I do underwear.

I don't care about PC culture. The truth being, there are absurd amounts of train wrecks and the concept of tying oneself to woman and state is laughable. I am incapable of marriage, monogamy or cohabitation. I don't stay the night. I don't let women sleep over in my bed or at all for that matter. Most men fabricate their own cucking. Marry a single mom or this chick who cannot compete anymore and is banished from the cawk carousel. She's not found God or born again virgin. She cannot compete. Playboy stopped calling. Rollo speaks of the epiphany phase. Mgtow speaks of the wall. Its all relative but female behavior isn't random. Its hardwired into her biology to date up.

Allocation of top form smv anywhere but my direction is met with disregard. Late teens. Early twenties or I rather fappp.

Even then, a chick on top form smv 18-23 can still **** off in late twenties. Its a zero sum game fellas.

I am married to the game. To my Ambitions, the pursuit of self knowledge, exploring consciousness, and self actualization. The rest is all bonus. The biological imperative of a individual is super BASIC at best. 99% of people are a slave to their biology. The IG ass pics or beta thirst, playing house with a ***** comes to mind.


The only way to win the game is to not play; no marriage, cohabitation, monogamy but, to flip the script. Evolve. In the words of McGregor, "improvise,adapt, overcome!"

Traditionalism, marriage, and monogamy are dead. What comes next is up to each individual man. IMHO it will get worse before getting better and until the state fails, the parade of free resources, and the redistribution of male resources to women ends, things won't change. If and when, women will adapt. Be back in the kitchen making sandwiches.

 

[JDAM]

95 % of men do not know how to lead in relationships (see @Atom Smasher posts about leadership and being a servant leader) I was married without a pre-nup and was NOT ass raped in divorce court) I had a lot to offer including military benefits that she did not go after..I chalk this up to my leadership in the marriage (along with boldness) even though it failed.I am not saying this would have been the case with you.Life is full of risks we take everyday.You could have missed out on a very good thing as well.

That is a perspective I hadn't considered. I admire the confidence you had to do it like that. Yes, life is full of risks I just thought that once you are getting a divorce, the woman isn't interested in your leadership anymore. You must have had a pretty special relationship with her then.

 

[rber]

Here's the thing. It depends on the two individuals involved and the values, character and commitment each one brings to the relationship. There ARE young couples even in today's climate who stick together with character.



Yes I agree with you. The single most important negotiation of my life was the negotiation of my divorce with my ex husband. My goal was to stay the hell out of family court for exactly the reason you note. I would have been cut in half financially had it gone to court and I would not have recovered in time to be a parent at home with my kids. My ex and I are both decent people fortunately. He knew I had worked like crazy to create a passive income stream for the express purpose of buying back my time and he knew that if he cut the income engine in half I'd never get to be a parent while the kids were still school age. While I gave up being a mom when they were young, allowed him to be an at home dad, and earned the income. So he took nothing from me in the divorce. He waived spousal obligatory spousal support AND child support. I do not pay those in an official sense.

However...

Because he trusted me (a tremendous amount) to forego those things I made him a promise. I promised I would support the family (him included) as I always have, (but on my terms since my income, although high, can be erratic) that I will buy him a car (done) and a pay for house outright for him (he has to decide where he wants to own), and that I will continue to contribute to him financially from the real estate income for the rest of his life. I have set up a trust that does exactly that. In the divorce he gave up all rights to any of the real estate. Quit claimed everything, notarized everything. I could leave him high and dry. Except that I will not do that on principle.

My BF has already expressed objection to the arrangement should we end up together for the duration. I simply explained it thusly to the BF: This is the promise I made. My ex trusted me and did not cut me in half financially during the divorce. Therefore I will honor my end of the bargain. That is final and not up for discussion. The BF didn't like that, but I'm not going to go back on my word to my ex. Under ANY circumstances. The trust protects against anyone being opportunistic on my end, and on my ex's end.

And I have actually doubled my holdings since the divorce, which benefits all involved. I will certainly note that we have a most unusual arrangement but it works for us and it serves the stated purpose.

This speaks well for your good character, but it could have gone awfully bad for him - he put himself at your mercy - noble but unwise in my opinion.
Couldn't he have gained the same fair arrangement officially without cutting your assets in half?

 

[meldiamond]

Only an idiot would take marriage advice from a woman, especially advice on divorce.

 

[meldiamond]

I agree 110%. That's why jews and muslims must be expelled from christian societies. They both hate christians and attack them at every turn, subverting them and guilt tripping relentlessly. Let them go back to their ancestral lands so that they can kill one another to their heart's content and leave us christians in peace. Just a few lovely quotse from jews about christians and other non jews:

"What a jew steals from a goy (non christian), he may keep." Sanhedrin 57a

"All children of the goyim are animals"

Stop with the religious attacks. Just because a person is Jewish doesn't mean they are bad. Not all people from all ethnic and religious backgrounds are bad or evil.

 

[BeExcellent]

You are a rare breed my friend. That is overly generous of you; a rarity these days. I offered my ex-wife (really short marriage) 10k cash to walk away, she threw the agreement back at me and I just said we'll play hardball then. She got nothing but moving expenses, rent expenses and some legal bills.

This is why I always go back to the saying, no good deed goes undone. Again, they do not make women like you much anymore. You're a stand-up person, and that is to be greatly admired by all.

Well that's very kind of you. I left my marriage with a million in real estate. So his cut would have been 500K give or take, and properties would have required to be sold to raise that capital. He did own his own commercial building and had a business operating out of his building. I took no interest in any of that.

I always saw it as a 500K gift of trust to me for the benefit of our children on the front end. And so the right thing to do is pay that back to him over time with whatever overage that creates on the back end. We divorced almost 5 years ago from a 15 year marriage. I think it's pretty fair really.

 

[meldiamond]

You didn't deserve a penny of that. You stole all of his hard earned money. That "million dollars in real estate" is what HE paid for and busted his a ss for. This is the typical route to female "entrepreneurship." Aside from inheritance, just about every last wealthy female's ill gotten wealth was a result of her husband's hard earned assets. Either that or she turns out to be a complete fraud. Witness the successor to Steve Jobs, Elizabeth Holmes. She stole SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FROM INVESTORS in just two years!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...abeth-holmes-charged-massive-fraud/424670002/

As I have said before, women are totally incompetent and totally parasitic. Any wealth they accrue (aside from inheritance or lottery) is from fraud or divorce or both.

Well that's very kind of you. I left my marriage with a million in real estate. So his cut would have been 500K give or take, and properties would have required to be sold to raise that capital. He did own his own commercial building and had a business operating out of his building. I took no interest in any of that.

I always saw it as a 500K gift of trust to me for the benefit of our children on the front end. And so the right thing to do is pay that back to him over time with whatever overage that creates on the back end. We divorced almost 5 years ago from a 15 year marriage. I think it's pretty fair really.

 

[BeExcellent]

This speaks well for your good character, but it could have gone awfully bad for him - he put himself at your mercy - noble but unwise in my opinion.
Couldn't he have gained the same fair arrangement officially without cutting your assets in half?

Correct that he put himself at my mercy. But he also knows me better than anyone and knows my character, as I know his. Neither of us was looking to gut the other one, although the emotional turmoil was tough...and we both wanted to do what was necessary to benefit the kids.

The cool thing was that we negotiated the particulars about the assets ourselves. The lawyers simply drew up the papers and guided us on how to handle custody and all the other particulars involving the children.

So we have a divorce decree that we really don't follow. Rather we work together to do what makes sense. But the decree is there if we disagree or if either of us gets so involved with someone else as to live together or etc.

Our divorce with over 1M in assets cost less than 2K. I think that's pretty cheap all things considered.

My point (besides answering questions) is to emphasize that character is of the utmost importance in partner selection. A person with character is less likely to screw you over even in divorce.

Obviously @meldiamond you missed the part where I was the breadwinner and the high income partner. You also missed the part where I took no interest in his business or his commercial building. You missed the part where I supported him and the family entirely on my income for 10 years while he did not work at all. I'm starting to think you don't read that well.

Not to mention you are following me about simply to troll. How flattering.

 

[meldiamond]

Since you post nothing but horsesh#t it's not necessary to read your posts.

Let's see: you are 50, yet you attract middle aged men, twenty something chads, as well as 14 year old boys.

You are 50 and caucasian yet defy aging unlike any other white woman in the history of the planet.

YOU supported HIM even though he had millions in commercial building assets.

You're so full of sh#t your eyes are turning brown. Like Kavanaugh's accusers, all you do is lie, lie, lie. You are a walking billboard proving that women are nothing but lying parasites.

Correct that he put himself at my mercy. But he also knows me better than anyone and knows my character, as I know his. Neither of us was looking to gut the other one, although the emotional turmoil was tough...and we both wanted to do what was necessary to benefit the kids.

The cool thing was that we negotiated the particulars about the assets ourselves. The lawyers simply drew up the papers and guided us on how to handle custody and all the other particulars involving the children.

So we have a divorce decree that we really don't follow. Rather we work together to do what makes sense. But the decree is there if we disagree or if either of us gets so involved with someone else as to live together or etc.

Our divorce with over 1M in assets cost less than 2K. I think that's pretty cheap all things considered.

My point (besides answering questions) is to emphasize that character is of the utmost importance in partner selection. A person with character is less likely to screw you over even in divorce.

Obviously @meldiamond you missed the part where I was the breadwinner and the high income partner. You also missed the part where I took no interest in his business or his commercial building. You missed the part where I supported him and the family entirely on my income for 10 years while he did not work at all. I'm starting to think you don't read that well.

Not to mention you are following me about simply to troll. How flattering.

 

[meldiamond]

Is anyone actually still dumb enough to take @BeExcellent's claims seriously? "She" says her ex husband had a "business" and "commercial building/real estate." She simultaneously claims that she supported the entire family on her income alone.

Remind you of anyone? Yeah, that lying hor Christine Ford. She claimed that she could not fly yet records clearly show she flies on a regular basis for work and flew to Washington DC to testify! This shows you how totally unprincipled and dishonest women are. Rachel Mitchell throws the most ridiculous softball questions at her for hours and hours and barely mentions her obvious hypocrisies and never questions her except very briefly at the end about how her testimony is 100% contradicted by all of the women Ford claims were at the party.

But back to bedelusional, commercial real estate at ROCK BOTTOM in the POOREST area of the US will be worth AT LEAST a half million dollars. In any city with plumbing, running water and more than a single billboard, it will be worth in the millions. That means he was collecting rent the entire time in addition to his earnings from his business.

Yet he was a pauper according to her account and had to support him.

Also, think about her claims about how attractive she is. She says she is hotter than a 23 year old Rebecca Demornay (Risky Business from 1984 was her breakthrough and still most famous role) and Taylor Swift combined! Is this claim credible for a 50 year old woman?

She says she manages to keep her skin glowing and age free by avoiding the sun. That means she doesn't go out much, meaning she is more or less home bound. This means she is very inactive. If she is inactive she is likely overweight. Everyone's metabolism slows as they age. That means she has to work harder to maintain whatever weight she was at 23. But she does so without leaving the house. Curious indeed.

Take a look at two women of the same age: Christine Ford and Rachel Mitchell. Both are white women and both are 51. They are typical white women. Notice how many wrinkles Ford has. Look how fat Rachel Mitchell is. Yet @BeExcellent claims to be hotter than 23 year old sex symbols. Not to mention Demornay portrayed a teenage girl in the film, meaning Bedelusional actually thinks she's hotter than 17 year old girls!

Everything she says is a blatant falsehood. Totally delusional. This is why muslims force women to wear veils and are forbidden from any public activities.

 

[BeExcellent]

Is anyone actually still dumb enough to take @BeExcellent's claims seriously? "She" says her ex husband had a "business" and "commercial building/real estate." She simultaneously claims that she supported the entire family on her income alone.

Remind you of anyone? Yeah, that lying hor Christine Ford. She claimed that she could not fly yet records clearly show she flies on a regular basis for work and flew to Washington DC to testify! This shows you how totally unprincipled and dishonest women are. Rachel Mitchell throws the most ridiculous softball questions at her for hours and hours and barely mentions her obvious hypocrisies and never questions her except very briefly at the end about how her testimony is 100% contradicted by all of the women Ford claims were at the party.

But back to bedelusional, commercial real estate at ROCK BOTTOM in the POOREST area of the US will be worth AT LEAST a half million dollars. In any city with plumbing, running water and more than a single billboard, it will be worth in the millions. That means he was collecting rent the entire time in addition to his earnings from his business.

Yet he was a pauper according to her account and had to support him.

Also, think about her claims about how attractive she is. She says she is hotter than a 23 year old Rebecca Demornay (Risky Business from 1984 was her breakthrough and still most famous role) and Taylor Swift combined! Is this claim credible for a 50 year old woman?

She says she manages to keep her skin glowing and age free by avoiding the sun. That means she doesn't go out much, meaning she is more or less home bound. This means she is very inactive. If she is inactive she is likely overweight. Everyone's metabolism slows as they age. That means she has to work harder to maintain whatever weight she was at 23. But she does so without leaving the house. Curious indeed.

Take a look at two women of the same age: Christine Ford and Rachel Mitchell. Both are white women and both are 51. They are typical white women. Notice how many wrinkles Ford has. Look how fat Rachel Mitchell is. Yet @BeExcellent claims to be hotter than 23 year old sex symbols. Not to mention Demornay portrayed a teenage girl in the film, meaning Bedelusional actually thinks she's hotter than 17 year old girls!

Everything she says is a blatant falsehood. Totally delusional. This is why muslims force women to wear veils and are forbidden from any public activities.

Says a self designated "Chad" who can't find anyone to like him IRL. Could it be your sparkling personality?

Funny but I don't have those problems.

I bought all my income property with income from my consulting business in healthcare.

His commercial building cost 38K. He cashed out his savings/retirement and paid cash in full. So he owned it free & clear. He never took a salary or paycheck because it wasn't earning enough to pay him after employee payroll (not including him), taxes, cost of sales & inventory. So he made zero income the 2 years he owned/operated it. I helped him renovate & redecorate at my expense. I stayed out of his business but my opinion was it was mis-managed. Eventually he sold the building and the business as a package and broke even after paying his outstanding debts.

So yes I supported him financially. He worked his rear off but was completely disorganized.

He has since gotten a W2 job.

You sound like a shrill at this point. Troll on.

 

[meldiamond]

What is a shrill? lol

And how did a perfect goddess like yourself wind up with a deadbeat? And why did you stay with him for 15 years if you had such extravagant offers from rich male model doctors?

Never mind that, where are the pics of yourself, the ageless beauty who is hotter than a 23 year old Rebecca Demornay who played a 17 year old high school girl? You look 16, yet women your age have infinite wrinkles and cellulite deposits lol.

Keep bullsh#ting, no one's buyin

Says a self designated "Chad" who can't find anyone to like him IRL. Could it be your sparkling personality?

Funny but I don't have those problems.

I bought all my income property with income from my consulting business in healthcare.

His commercial building cost 38K. He cashed out his savings/retirement and paid cash in full. So he owned it free & clear. He never took a salary or paycheck because it wasn't earning enough to pay him after employee payroll (not including him), taxes, cost of sales & inventory. So he made zero income the 2 years he owned/operated it. I helped him renovate & redecorate at my expense. I stayed out of his business but my opinion was it was mis-managed. Eventually he sold the building and the business as a package and broke even after paying his outstanding debts.

So yes I supported him financially. He worked his rear off but was completely disorganized.

He has since gotten a W2 job.

You sound like a shrill at this point. Troll on.

 

[BeExcellent]

What is a shrill? lol

And how did a perfect goddess like yourself wind up with a deadbeat? And why did you stay with him for 15 years if you had such extravagant offers from rich male model doctors?

Never mind that, where are the pics of yourself, the ageless beauty who is hotter than a 23 year old Rebecca Demornay who played a 17 year old high school girl? You look 16, yet women your age have infinite wrinkles and cellulite deposits lol.

Keep bullsh#ting, no one's buyin

My story is already on SS. Find it yourself.

Cliff notes:

He wasn't a "deadbeat" when we married. He was the image of success and owned a very popular venue. His business partner screwed him over & after that he curled up in a ball. We already had kids. I was committed to the marriage. It's all there for the reading.

 

[meldiamond]

You are as beautiful as a rebecca demornay, a 23 year old who played a 17 year old. You are 50. Your age peers are wrinkled up old hags. You are a liar. BS. We get it. Zero credibility.

My story is already on SS. Find it yourself.

Cliff notes:

He wasn't a "deadbeat" when we married. He was the image of success and owned a very popular venue. His business partner screwed him over & after that he curled up in a ball. We already had kids. I was committed to the marriage. It's all there for the reading.

 

[BeExcellent]

You are as beautiful as a rebecca demornay, a 23 year old who played a 17 year old. You are 50. Your age peers are wrinkled up old hags. You are a liar. BS. We get it. Zero credibility.

You are grossly misrepresenting what I have said and then calling me a liar.

Does that make you feel better?

Serious question.