When they turn, they turn fast

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She says she looks like Rebecca Demornay and Taylor Swift. Not a 60 year old Demornay but the 23 year old Demornay obviously since she is comparing herself also to Taylor Swift, now 28. So she thinks that at 50, she looks like a super hot woman 23-28 years of age.

Totally full of sh#t. It is 1 million percent impossible for this woman to look like a 23 year old at 50. Much less hotter than a 23 year old at 50.

Take a look at photos of Nicole Kidman at 51. Her face is frozen solid from a combination of botox, collagen fillers and multiple surgeries including facelifts. Charlize Theron shows the same evidence of plastic surgery and she is considerably older, at 43.

White women are notorious for not aging well, and the ones who do have spent millions to fight the aging process with moderate success at best.

A few Asian women in their 40-50 age range age extremely well, but then again South Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world and it's impossible to say how much of their youthful appearance is due to genetics (it is) and how much is due to plastic surgery or other cosmetic procedures such as laser skin resurfacing.

I would bet every last dime that your claims are a gross exaggeration at best, and flat out 100% bullsh#t, and that's just because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

And it's great that you keep posting so we can record your delusions.

If you want any additional evidence of what a 50 year old white woman looks like tune into dancing with the stars. Mary Lou Retton is one of the dancers. She is a gold medal olympian with far superior genetics than bedelusionalasf#ck.

So where did I lie? You are the one who compared herself to Demornay and Taylor Swift. No one is calling Demornay a sex symbol at 50, but plenty did when she was in her early 20's. It's pretty obvious which version you are referring to.

https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-solipsism-insanity.252539/page-7#post-2575266

As far as my appearance yes I'm very physically attractive. I avoided the sun since age 20, my skin has plenty of oil so remains supple, I have long thick, straight healthy natural blonde hair down nearly to my waist which I never ruined with hair dye or perms, I stand at 5'6" and weigh 118. That's a BMI of 19 or 20. I'd have to do the math. I have a slender athletic build & mesomorph musculature so I keep definition. I was a high school & collegiate soccer player...I still play some & do sprinter's track workouts to keep everything firm. I also do light free weight lifting & a short machine circuit. My legs are long & shapely. I have a natural 36-24-36 figure (no surgical help needed) and nothing is droopy. I have blue eyes. I turn every head in a bikini.

My ex husband considers me a 9+, a millionaire I wasn't interested in thinks I'm a 10 (and told me so), I have modeled here and there in runway locally and for the occasional gig over the years when I've been asked. Paparazzi have chased me in LA thinking I'm someone famous and I've had men photograph me in airports and other places without my consent as I go about my business.

I used to get approached constantly and told I was a ringer for Rebecca DeMornay. I have aged MUCH better than she has. I'd say I look like her with a fair bit of Taylor Swift thrown in.

Look I'm lucky. My parents were beautiful people. So were my grandparents. My father nor my grandmother ever went gray. They both got a cool skunk stripe over their right temple in old age. My granny lived into her late 90s but looked 70. So I got great genetics. I've also lived very healthy, get plenty of sleep and take great care of myself.

So I'm HB 8+ in my own opinion, even though the numbers given above are recent. Big Neil used to do photo feeler with all these young 20 somethings he used to date. He took the black & white avatar I used and put it on photo feeler. It came back rated 98% attractiveness. (This was Neil's silly thing to do but the raters are neutral & don't know age or any of that). Neil posted the result here on SS somewhere. Many men think I'm very pretty without makeup, and I usually don't wear any. Some men I've dated preferred I wore no makeup at all, including a NYC cosmetic dentist I dated years ago.

The men I date are very attractive. As am I.

So yes I do have the perspective of a very attractive woman. When you add the cool personality, the self assurance and the life experience & wisdom plus the fact that I'm done with babies? I have more men interested in me than I can shake a stick at. It's a lovely problem to have but I prefer to select one man and explore that in depth rather than the headaches of dating ad nauseum. Before I married I always had full calendars if I was not in a LTR. It's no different now.

My BF is 2 years younger than I, very attractive (tall dark & handsome) but everyone thinks I'm more than 10 years younger than him.

The avatar? That's me last holiday season. And it's not filtered at all. Cropped but not filtered.

So yes I'm legit in the looks dept. Why that's so important I don't know from a commentary standpoint, but it is what it is.

I'm well aware looks matter to men. I'm also blessed in that area through luck but maintain through healthy lifestyle.

You are grossly misrepresenting what I have said and then calling me a liar.

Does that make you feel better?

Serious question.
 

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These are photos of Nicole Kidman at 46, taken 4 years ago. She has no wrinkles but her skin looks hard and rough. She cannot smile naturally because of the amount of botox she injects regularly. Her eyes are uneven in size, probably due to excessive botox use. She has had a facelift or two or three. The skin is pulled back, preventing her from smiling in a natural, relaxed fashion.

She cannot lift her eyebrows either because of botox. The collagen lip injections make her lips look unnatural, even inflamed. In the closeups she has many fine wrinkles. She can't inject botox around her eyes after all, since nature mandates it necessary to blink, or else she would.
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Charlize Theron. 43 at time of photo? Excessive botox use. Her forehead is not moving at all. Too bad to see her age. She has had no children to pass on her genes. And she was one of the most beautiful women in the world. Still beautiful for her age even though she looks artificial.

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First, I want to thank this forum for opening my eyes to male/female interactions, and through that, changing my perspective on myself. I found this place just over a year ago and the knowledge gained here has allowed me to change my life and I can’t thank everyone here enough. I am posting this because I learned so much over the last year from other member’s posts and maybe this can do the same for someone else. Writing it out here in black and white helped me to see the relationship is over, there’s no point in trying to resuscitate something that is terminal.

Long story short, I am 48 years old, divorced for 4 years, was married for 20. Spent the last 1.5 years in a relationship with a (now 30 year old) woman. The relationship was the best one I have had so far. She is attractive, cheerful, and willingly accepts the traditional gender roles. She cooks for me, does my laundry, etc. and I have always felt respected and that she looks up to me in the relationship. Got engaged after a year and we were supposed to get married in December. Since I have been married before (but avoided getting cleaned out because my ex wife and I made the same amount of money) and I have seen many men I work with get divorced and then been forced to pay alimony and child support I insisted on a pre-nup with her. I told her I needed a prenup before we got engaged 5 months ago and she has had the actual copy of it for 3 months.

Fast forward to last Friday. I wanted to get the pre-nup signed since we’re 90 days out from the wedding date. I ended up losing frame for the first time. I started shouting for a few seconds and visibly got upset. Then I stormed out. She called me the next day and told me she is just scared of the pre-nup and loves me more than anything. She also asked if I thought that we broke up when I stormed out and I answered honestly that I did think that. She asked me to come over and talk about it and I got more assurances of love and devotion from her over there when I went over and that continued through the week.

This Thursday we started talking about the pre-nup again and I could see her demeanor was harder. She basically said she very much wants to get married but she isn’t signing one. Even said that if I have to pack my stuff up and go I “should be civil about it and not disappear”. She’s never said things like that before. I asked her about that statement and she insisted that she didn’t want me to pack up and go that she was “just scared”. Keep in mind, the whole evening she is telling me how much she loves me and wants to get married (just without a pre-nup).

Next day I tried one last time to see if we could work it out. I went to see her and I even compromised on part of my retirement but she was adamant about another issue. It made me think that she was not looking for solutions at that point, just a reason to blow this up. I ended up losing frame again, got even more visibly upset than the first time, and left. I haven’t heard from her in two days which has never happened before.

Looking back at this I know losing frame was a major mistake and I did it twice. I also see now that when she thought I broke up with her, she sucked me back in, only so that she could basically be the one to reject me less than a week later. And her mentioning me packing up and leaving out of nowhere, I mean, that was a not very subtle hint that she was fine with me leaving and not coming back. What surprises me the most is that she has been super loving, attentive, and supportive the past few months and right up until the end. In 5 days she went from “I love you more than you’ll ever know” and “I can’t imagine my life without you” to “if you’re going to pack up and leave we should be civil about it” then radio silent.

At this point I know it’s over. I’m just shocked at how fast she turned. I also know that when a woman breaks up with you she has thought about it a hundred times before which makes me wonder when she really knew she was going to do this. Months ago maybe. They also don’t leave without a parachute so I would be surprised if she hasn’t been talking to other guys for some time now behind my back. I plan to go over there tomorrow after she is at work, get my stuff, leave her key and then go no contact. Since we were supposed to get married and now we aren’t, there’s really no place to go from here and no point in keeping in contact.

Major lessons learned:
1-Frame is really everything. You lose frame even once and they start to doubt you. Don’t argue with women, they are way better at eliciting emotional reactions than you are. Every time you argue with a woman you risk her provoking an emotional response from you. I won’t be doing that again.
2- I gave up a lot of myself in this relationship without realizing it. I stopped going to BJJ, I stopped seeing other women, I stopped talking to other women, I did not apply for certain career opportunities in our headquarters so I could be with her. So now when it’s over, I’m left trying to rebuild my life and get it back on track.
3- The medium is the message. As I have read on this forum countless times, watch what they do, not what they say. If something is important to people they will make time for it. She’s had that pre-nup for several months. If she really valued me and wanted to lock me down she would have signed it. It’s that simple.
4-No matter how well you get a long, how well she treats you, how much she says she loves you, or how much you love her, every woman is capable of turning on you with very little warning.



PS: I'm starting to see the wisdom in the predominant view here that marriage is a losing proposition. I'm not looking to put myself through this again.
The biggest question I have, especially for someone who's 47 and has already has been married, is what's the big rush to get married again? Had you just been satisfied with a committed relationship, the whole pre-nup issue would have never manifest.

What is the deal with HAVING to be married considering it's such a BAD DEAL for men?
 

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Thats the feeling I'm getting. Like Ranger Mike said, if she was really that into me she would have signed it. I guess she thinks she has better options. I don't blame her for that if that is what she truely thinks. I would do the same thing if I thought I could easily get better options. I'm not without options myself, after all, if I was able to date her I can date other women like her, but I caught e'll feelings for her and that makes it hard.
She'll find some guy, guaranteed, who will marry her without a prenup. Then, 5-10 years down the road they'll get divorced and like every other chump, he'll be stuck paying alimony and child support. The poor guy will probably lose hair, gain weight, and get bags under his eyes all because he JUST HAD to get married. Marriage is a fool's errand, but there's a fool born every minute.
 

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The biggest question I have, especially for someone who's 47 and has already has been married, is what's the big rush to get married again? Had you just been satisfied with a committed relationship, the whole pre-nup issue would have never manifest.

What is the deal with HAVING to be married considering it's such a BAD DEAL for men?
Could be that he yearns for the family life. Could be he doesn't like being alone. Nothing wrong with it per se, but I know I got a taste of the married life, I felt like I was in jail, so I used my get out of jail; just not for free card. I agree with @Dash Riprock. If you must cohabitate, do one without a marital license. Fvck around with some single moms; which teenagers or older. You might find you like that arrangement better.
 

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If you must cohabitate, do one without a marital license.
Take care that you don't live somewhere with common-law marriage...
 
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You luckily ended up with a woman who either had more self-respect than most to not leech off someone else's hard work or someone totally naive.
NO... luck had nothing to do with it,I divorced her.I held frame frame the whole time.She was not naïve either (had a masters degree ect) my theory is that she respected me too much to take anything.
 
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