when she gives the 'let's just be friends line'..

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you've heard the line before, she says she just wants to be friends.. or 'it's great we're friends :)'

if you respond with the 'yeah i think we should be just friends too, we could never date properly/you could never be my girlfriend'

if she doesn't care wouldn't she just be happy you're both in agreement that you're friends?

or if she asks you 'why?' are you suppose to just not respond and change the subject?

i feel that when i've been told this that if i say she could never be my gf etc she'd just be happy that we're friends then i'd be left angry thinking 'huh? how come you didn't ask me why?'
 

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is there something in the bible that covers this?
 

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I've never believed in the whole "oh, yeah let's be friends I totally agree!" bs.

It's almost like it's scripted and smart women aren't fooled by this little lie that we dish out in response to the utter truth from her mouth.

First of all, I would work on never putting yourself in this predicament. It's going to happen a few times when you're inexperienced with women, but after that it shouldn't really happen again.

Why?

Women use this line for only a few reasons..

1. You were too clingy (stop being so needy)
2. She never liked you like that in the first place (learn to know when women just aren't feeling it.. although this should be never)
3. She found something better

And yes, there are other reasons, but those three are definitely the most common by any means.

The bottom line is, you should never find yourself in this position. If anything you should be the one telling women that you don't want to be intimate anymore. If you act clingy and desperate, women will act accordingly. If you act as if you are your own man, women will once again act accordingly.

It also all depends on who's saying this to you.

My ex from a year ago still pulls the line "Why can't we just be friends WC?"

It's her way of telling me that the only way she will get over me is if I'm overly nice and pleasing to her.

So, I tend to act like a man and she acts accordingly.

I've never once told her that I want to be friends with her. Why would I want to be friends with a hot woman (unless forced)? Let alone a hot woman who I laid pipe to for 2 years?

No thanks. I'll kindly tell her that she can fantasize about whatever she wants us to be. I on the other hand will still be the same person to her as I always was. Spontaneous, full of energy, and still a bit of a jerk. And you know what? She still digs it.
 

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You respond to it by not responding.

Your only recourse after this declaration of friendship on her part is not entering into her frame and accepting it in any way shape or form.

If you want her as your girlfriend you do the same thing you would do with any other chick ie use kino at appropriate times, get her isolated, be c0cky and funny and never be her emotional tamp0n.

If she rejects more overt advances from you such as trying to kiss her or something else you next the b!tch.

Don't hover around like some AFC orbiter and waste your time hoping for her to eventually get vulnerable to your advances get out there and generate new prospects keeping them in your frame and not the other way around.

And if you meant anything at all to the girl who rejected you she will make contact with you begging for you back in her life at which point you set the terms for that ie she being your girlfriend and nothing less than that.
 

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She says " let's just be friends"
You say "i dont see us ever being more than that"

If she asks why, you say, "well you are too <<insert statement/word here>>, and i need << opposite of statement/word>>"

Then walk away.
 

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what is this "let's just be friends" line you speak of? :rolleyes:
 

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KontrollerX said:
You respond to it by not responding.

Your only recourse after this declaration of friendship on her part is not entering into her frame and accepting it in any way shape or form.

If you want her as your girlfriend you do the same thing you would do with any other chick ie use kino at appropriate times, get her isolated, be c0cky and funny and never be her emotional tamp0n.

If she rejects more overt advances from you such as trying to kiss her or something else you next the b!tch.

Don't hover around like some AFC orbiter and waste your time hoping for her to eventually get vulnerable to your advances get out there and generate new prospects keeping them in your frame and not the other way around.

And if you meant anything at all to the girl who rejected you she will make contact with you begging for you back in her life at which point you set the terms for that ie she being your girlfriend and nothing less than that.
when you say don't respond do you mean you just change the subject?

if so what line would you say to deflect her friends comment.. cos usually it's along the lines of 'look.. i think we should just be friends'
 

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pete101 said:
you've heard the line before, she says she just wants to be friends.. or 'it's great we're friends :)'

if you respond with the 'yeah i think we should be just friends too, we could never date properly/you could never be my girlfriend'

if she doesn't care wouldn't she just be happy you're both in agreement that you're friends?

or if she asks you 'why?'

You: because I don't want to ruin our friendship. It means too much what we have together.
If she says she just wants to be friends, agree with her but don't keep on seeing her thinking you'll change her mind. You keep seeing her less and less while you are busy finding other girls you want to sleep with.
 

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KontrollerX said:
You respond to it by not responding.

Your only recourse after this declaration of friendship on her part is not entering into her frame and accepting it in any way shape or form.

If you want her as your girlfriend you do the same thing you would do with any other chick ie use kino at appropriate times, get her isolated, be c0cky and funny and never be her emotional tamp0n.

If she rejects more overt advances from you such as trying to kiss her or something else you next the b!tch.

Don't hover around like some AFC orbiter and waste your time hoping for her to eventually get vulnerable to your advances get out there and generate new prospects keeping them in your frame and not the other way around.

And if you meant anything at all to the girl who rejected you she will make contact with you begging for you back in her life at which point you set the terms for that ie she being your girlfriend and nothing less than that.

awesome! why didnt you tell me that in my post! :cuss:


DonGorgon said:
FRIEND = NO PU$$Y FOR YOU... So do what KontrollerX said.
that ****in' hurts dude , but yeah its sad but true.

So whats the point of even seeing her if no pu$$y....umm ok biach ....laters ha ha ha .

I want to build my mindset, as powerful as it can be.

when you confornt rejection or someone does this to you dude.

I acted like she is weird not to like me cause Im a cool ass mutha, I am not AFC to supplicate.

I'm human and make mistakes but stilll dude , she takes a dump or even stinks worse... YuK ! L O L :cheer:

So there is clearly something wrong with her dude.

Its not your fault she is ****in crazy, yeah she is dude.

She is stupid and weird.


one guy here said : what did the barber say?...........NEXT.

:up:
 

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I'd probably say, "OK, we can be fvck friends."


Cheers!
 

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KontrollerX said:
And if you meant anything at all to the girl who rejected you she will make contact with you begging for you back in her life at which point you set the terms for that ie she being your girlfriend and nothing less than that.
QFT
 

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This just happened to me. I responded with a "Yeah, I agree. See you later.". Never called or texted her again, and it ended with her begging to hang out with me and I had sex with her again. I think the key is acting like she doesn't matter to you because you can get other girls easily.
 

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Sin Verdad said:
This just happened to me. I responded with a "Yeah, I agree. See you later.". Never called or texted her again, and it ended with her begging to hang out with me and I had sex with her again. I think the key is acting like she doesn't matter to you because you can get other girls easily.
Right - and agree with xcontroller -

Apathy and moving on is what you want to convey when you get LJBF, whether by saying nothing at all or responding briefly. Shock her with your apathy; genuine apathy. To really pull this off, you have to already be bigger than her before she or any other woman ever speaks these words.

This reminds me of the truth, "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference".

Guys go ahead and decide right here and now.... Are their women out there bigger than you; greater than you, or are there not. Decide this right now. If so, then accept that sometimes you will appear as a p****. If not, you will never lose in this encounter.
 

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azanon said:
Guys go ahead and decide right here and now.... Are their women out there bigger than you; greater than you, or are there not. Decide this right now. If so, then accept that sometimes you will appear as a p****. If not, you will never lose in this encounter.
Great question to ask ones self! :up: For the majority on this site I'd say they'd answer yes so it's important to get into a prize mindset.
 

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It's nice to know that you're trying to figure out how to deal with this little snafu.

What disturbs me is that, after 17 posts, no one has pointed out that there is a reason a woman will say this to you to begin with. Women don't normally just come out with these types of statements for no reason. They do it because they're getting a certain impression.

You end up having to deal with this problem because you're screwing up at some earlier point along the way.
 

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pete101 said:
you've heard the line before, she says she just wants to be friends.. or 'it's great we're friends :)'

if you respond with the 'yeah i think we should be just friends too, we could never date properly/you could never be my girlfriend'

if she doesn't care wouldn't she just be happy you're both in agreement that you're friends?

or if she asks you 'why?' are you suppose to just not respond and change the subject?

i feel that when i've been told this that if i say she could never be my gf etc she'd just be happy that we're friends then i'd be left angry thinking 'huh? how come you didn't ask me why?'
Most of that seems immature.

Agreeing is dumb, because it isn't TRULY what you want.

Shooting back with an insult is a sign of immaturity, which further lowers your value to her.

A MAN, doesn't care. A woman wants and needs him MORE. But you have to know that inside and out. It's not a disrespect thing, its a biological fact.

She's she wants to be friends, you say ok, and go on with the moment. If you contact her, expect nothing and call her for that. Don't boast about who you might be dating or fawking, let mystery creep in. Let her wonder. Especially if you're busy. Weak guys boast. Weak guys show off. Weak guys need HER acceptance. It's all for the ego anyways.

There's MILLIONS of hot chicks and more become legal everyday. So, if she wants to be friends, enjoy THAT moment, and if something springs up that you want to involve her in, so be it. If she invites you out, great. But go IF YOU WANT TO go, not to maintain HOPE in some failing enterprise.
 

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Women have used the LJBF rejection for a hundred years because it serves an ego preservation function for her. To a greater or lesser degree, women require attention and the more they have of it the more affirmation they experience, both personally and socially. The LJBF rejection is a social convention that has classically ensured a woman can reject a man yet still maintain his previous attention. It also puts the responsibility for the rejection back on his shoulders since, should he decline the 'offer of friendship', he is then responsible for entertaining this 'friendship'.

This of course has the potential to backfire on women these days since the standard AFC will accept an LJBF rejection in the mistaken hope of 'proving' himself worthy of her intimacy by being the perfect 'surrogate boyfriend' - fulfiling all her attention and loyalty prerequisites with no expectation of reciprocating her own intimacy.

The LJBF rejection also serves as an ego preservation for her in that having offered the false olive branch of 'friendship' to him in her rejection she can also sleep that night knowing that she (and any of her peers) wont think any less of herself. Afterall, she offered to be friends, right? She is excused from any feelings of personal guilt or any responsibilities for his feelings if she still wants to remain amiable with him.

I think the default response should be to take the LJBF as what it is - as a rejection (and her loss) ergo, you remove the reinforcer - attention. Up until the point you made an approach for her intimacy she was enjoying the benefit of your attentions. After an LJBF response her latent intent is to keep that reinforcer of attention. Do not reward her for this disingenuous response, she will only use it on you again or with another guy in a similar situation since it was reinforced the last time this circumstance was experienced. And should the next fellow reinforce it further she will internalize this as her standard response.

Obviously the best way to enact this is to do what you did; use a takeaway and turn down her LJBF. An outright refusal of her psuedo-friendship offer would be ideal, but not always possible given social settings, however a takeaway is always warranted. The problem I see with doubting her intent with the LJBF is that, most women, whether serious or not in their LJBF rejection, will almost always follow up with some kind of communication when you do remove your previous attentions. This was a previous reinforcer to her and like most animals when faced with a behavioral extinction, she will attempt to re-establish that reward. This is why if you do end up cutting all contact with her she will have a tendency to pursue - and depending on the individual sometimes more actively pursue - your attention, even if she has no intent of becoming intimate with a guy. Women do this in an effort to maintain self-affirmation (i.e. she wants to verify everything is 'OK' between you and her in an email or IM) after a rejection.

The problem is when a guy begins to doubt her seriousness in her rejection when this occurs. We always read guys on this forum state that a fellow ought to "stick to his guns" in situations of rejection and this becomes more difficult when she confuses him with an unexpected burst of spontaneous attention. It's the stripper effect only more personal. Guys will spend small fortunes on lapdances at the strip club because it provides him with something he's not ordinarily accustomed to - spontaneous feminine attention. Similarly, when a woman does a follow up to a LJBF rejection after a takeaway the reaction is like that for men. Maybe she does actually like him afterall? Maybe he does have a shot with the stripper in his lap, she's giving him confusing signals in either instance.
 

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