When do girls become as "evil" and selfish as they are described by red pill?

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Ok I'll take the bait Frog.

Women tend to have keen intuition and the ability to create and foster social connections and support, which requires pretty good social skills and emotional intelligence. Not all women have this and many men have it too but if you look at the social support women have as compared to men, especially in later life, women tend to have more of it which leads to better social determinants of health and mental well-being.

Women are more open to seeking and providing support, in general, when it comes to emotional and mental well being. I think this openness and willingness to seek and provide help is a value, especially when you consider the statistics that more men commit suicide than women.

Women tend to live longer than men, so perhaps there's some biological value there.

Women's social skills, emotional IQ, and intuition are relevant in work situations where team work and cooperation is required. In fact many job interviews now include scenario bases questions to determine someone's level of emotional IQ.

If we are comparing value across genders, as you have done on this thread, I think some of the main areas where men have the upper value advantage, so to speak, is around physically ability. Men are physically stronger than women, with some variance. I also think men are more logical in many areas which is a value in the workplace, if you think of problem solving.

In terms of academics and being 'book smart', I would say it's about the same, again with some variance. Women have achieved great academic success in many fields normally considered men's fields such as mathematics and engineering. Men have also achieved great success in areas that are considered women's fields,such as teaching. Some of the best teachers I had in high school have been men.

I think women have some values that are generally higher than mens' and vise versa, but ideally they should compliment each other. That's what I think people should look for in a relationship, look for the value and see how it compliments your own for the benefit of both of you.

The problem is when you paint everyone with the same brush and don't see any value.
What I took from that is...

They are good at making social connections.

I can see that as having more value than their "multitasking" ability.

But I still don't think that is equal to the work that men put into making society run.

Police, military, construction workers, auto mechanics, truck drivers, utility workers, and even all the office jobs that females can do too like doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.
 

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Cola said:
-Is she educated
-Does she spend money responsibly
-Ideally she has a high paying job as well and contributes..
-Does she/would she take care of you if you become sick
-Is she easy to deal with
Don't care about her money contributions, but I would hope most DJs have this as a minimum standard as well as no divorce, no kids, intact family with prominent father figure, intelligent enough, traditional-minded, inter alia.

But you'll find 8s 9s and 10s were do busy trying to stay hot they didn't develop a lot of the above qualities..
True for the majority, not all, of the high-end. However, an LTR with a woman whom doesn't prompt you to want to fvck her brains out will provide you limited happiness and, thus, is also transient if you grow bored. Been there a few times ... unfortunately.
cola said:
Remember you plan on being with this person in your 50s.. Hardly anyone is hot in their late 50s.
Assumed here is LTRs last forever ... and happily ever after. This is certainly not the case in most instances: if not stopped by the former, then trapped by the latter. Best to accept relationships as transient by nature and enjoy the now.

Nothing wrong with shooting for high SMV in a woman ... if that is what you desire. Best choice ideally on looks and quality is somewhere in the middle between SMV acceptable and SMV best.
 
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What I took from that is...

They are good at making social connections.

I can see that as having more value than their "multitasking" ability.

But I still don't think that is equal to the work that men put into making society run.

Police, military, construction workers, auto mechanics, truck drivers, utility workers, and even all the office jobs that females can do too like doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.
I think there are jobs that are better suited to men, like military for example. And there are jobs that are better suited to females, like nursing. I guess I'm a bit old school I don't know , but I do see both fields as having a very vital role in society. Now those are two fields have always complimented each other, nurses caring for wounded soldiers on the front lines back in the day. Both men and women risked their lives being out in the middle of those war zones doing what they needed to do. Those nurses and soldiers were pretty brave. Back then people didn't debate what was proper or PC or oppressive when faced with losing their freedom, both genders pitched in and did what they had to do for the betterment of everyone. I think a lot of that drive has been lost in recent times.
 

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Don't care about her money contributions, but I would hope most DJs have this as a minimum standard as well as no divorce, no kids, intact family with prominent father figure, intelligent enough, traditional-minded, inter alia.


True for the majority, not all, of the high-end. However, an LTR with a woman whom doesn't prompt you to want to fvck her brains out will provide you limited happiness and, thus, is also transient if you grow bored. Been there a few times ... unfortunately.
Assumed here is LTRs last forever ... and happily ever after. This is certainly not the case in most instances: if not stopped by the former, then trapped by the latter. Best to accept relationships as transient by nature and enjoy the now.

Nothing wrong with shooting for high SMV in a woman ... if that is what you desire. Best choice ideally on looks and quality is somewhere in the middle between SMV acceptable and SMV best.
If you've truly ever banged a hot girl.. You know that after about the 6th time.. She just isn't as hot anymore..

The boners get a little less stiffer and by time number 50 she isn't even that hot to you anymore..

So its pointless.. Its like getting the latest Benz every year..
That 2016 SClass Benz looks crappy compared to the 17, but everyone who can't get the s class don't understand they think your 16 is amazing... So you trade up for the 17. Then the 18 comes out and .. Uh oh.
Its a never ending cycle..same with hot girls.

Thats why chasing looks past the point of "does she get my d*ck hard is pointless.
 
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I think there are jobs that are better suited to men, like military for example. And there are jobs that are better suited to females, like nursing. I guess I'm a bit old school I don't know , but I do see both fields as having a very vital role in society. Now those are two fields have always complimented each other, nurses caring for wounded soldiers on the front lines back in the day. Both men and women risked their lives being out in the middle of those war zones doing what they needed to do. Those nurses and soldiers were pretty brave. Back then people didn't debate what was proper or PC or oppressive when faced with losing their freedom, both genders pitched in and did what they had to do for the betterment of everyone. I think a lot of that drive has been lost in recent times.
Lol. Female nurses are not in war zones.

Not a single female landed in Normandy on D-Day. Not even nurses.

Your knowledge of history is wrong.

There are jobs that women don't do because they can't. There are no jobs that men are incapable of doing and few, if any, that women are even better at. And this includes traditional female jobs like nurse, teacher, even waitress and bartender.

If females traveled with armies, it was to provide sex to the soldiers. They were not on the battlefields. Perhaps they stayed in the camps and acted as nurses, perhaps not.
 

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If you've truly ever banged a hot girl.. You know that after about the 6th time.. She just isn't as hot anymore..
Think you're confusing bangable women with women on the upper-tier of whom you could attract.

Thats why chasing looks past the point of "does she get my d*ck hard is pointless.
Yup, I once thought this. One divorce later based on this issue alone would change your perspective. Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way.
 
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Think you're confusing bangable women with women on the upper-tier of whom you could attract.

Yup, I once thought this. One divorce later based on this issue alone would change your perspective. Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way.
You never told me what your "status" was.
 

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Once they hit puberty and become sexualized they realize the power their vag has over the opposite sex
I thought that this is the answer to the original question. Girls seem fine until they lose virginity and then proceed to have more than one boyfriend/pork sessions.
 
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Lol. Female nurses are not in war zones.

Not a single female landed in Normandy on D-Day. Not even nurses.

Your knowledge of history is wrong.

There are jobs that women don't do because they can't. There are no jobs that men are incapable of doing and few, if any, that women are even better at. And this includes traditional female jobs like nurse, teacher, even waitress and bartender.

If females traveled with armies, it was to provide sex to the soldiers. They were not on the battlefields. Perhaps they stayed in the camps and acted as nurses, perhaps not.
Did I say they were on the beach on D - Day? I'm not saying they were in the trenches lol. Oh wow.
And the definition of a war zone, Frog, is a region where a war is taking place. Nurses weren't mailing wounded soldiers gauze and bandages with instructions on how to use them, lol, they weren't in another country providing telehealth.

So there is no job that men are incapable of doing? None at all Frog?

Are you willing to bet your future millions on that? Because I
Lol. Female nurses are not in war zones.

Not a single female landed in Normandy on D-Day. Not even nurses.

Your knowledge of history is wrong.

There are jobs that women don't do because they can't. There are no jobs that men are incapable of doing and few, if any, that women are even better at. And this includes traditional female jobs like nurse, teacher, even waitress and bartender.

If females traveled with armies, it was to provide sex to the soldiers. They were not on the battlefields. Perhaps they stayed in the camps and acted as nurses, perhaps not.
I didn't say they were on the beach during D-Day Frog.

A war zone, by the way, is defined as a place where a war is taking place. Nurses weren't mailing wounded soldiers gauze and bandages with instruction leaflets. I don't think they had time to carry the wounded by train or ship to whatever safe cozy country the nurses were chilling in. Why don't you google, "Nurses in the war zone during ww2 ww1" and see for yourself.

But thanks for the facts Frog, by the way I didn't know that men could be wetnurses, which I guess they can be if there is no job they are incapable of doing.
 

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Lol, little OT, are we?
 

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I feel like I'm being sucked into his vortex. I have only myself to blame.
Some guys in this site are attention wh0res. They LOVE the attention of the back and forth, and will continue to argue with you in order to get it.
When I find myself thinking "this issue has become an attention seeking mechanism for this poster, and I blame myself for continuing to participate" I state that I am are done responding, and then be done with it, no matter what they say

Remember, you don't have to pay attention to them, even if they directly tag you, especially if the back and forth turns into bullchit
 

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When he can no longer get that, he will begin to appreciate that....
Or if 6s and 7s are the best one can get, they will be appreciated. Thus therein lies Cola's operandi.

I don't mind 7s intermittently ... that is, for that one time and toss.

Good to see you back.
 

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Or if 6s and 7s are the best one can get, they will be appreciated.
You understand what I mean...

6's and 7's can easily mean 7's and 8's here.......you know......

that is, for that one time and toss.
You got it, but you still appreciate it for what it is. You don't diminish the value of the one time and toss, do you?

I know you appreciate, that's why it grows...

Good to see you back.
Cheers my man
 
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Or if 6s and 7s are the best one can get, they will be appreciated. Thus therein lies Cola's operandi.

I don't mind 7s intermittently ... that is, for that one time and toss.

Good to see you back.
Now can you actually provide proof that you get with 9's and 10's? With all the talk on this forum, I've never actually seen concrete evidence that anyone fvcks super hot girls even once, let alone regularly.
 

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But most of us here arent 8' s, 9' s and 10s ourselves.. Why can't you be happy with a freaky 6-7 who does whatever you say?
Because once you've been with a 9.. its very hard to ever develop feelings for anything less.

Not everyone likes to settle.
 
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