What's the real reason why women today are chasing after bad boys?

[Warrior74]

BTW there is not ONE single 'Alpha male' on this entire forum... the true alphas are usually in jail or on a talk show going on about their baby mama. True Alphas are losers.

Yup. There are no ALphas on forums such as these. That's the part that nobody is willing to admit. Now imagine some very smart socially outcast guy who learns how to pickup women. Smart enough to know that most men are like him or worse. But he knows he can get a girl or two...this guy will set himself up as guru to the pua masses and that's how pua gurus are born.

I always laugh at threads like these because of the mental masturbation that ensues. But I agree with the statement above, I have yet to meet an alpha who has the need to say that he is "Alpha" but I've met a few of these "clowns" on this (and other) website and it's easy to portray yourself as some sort of a bada$$ on a forum when IRL these guys are a losers.

I've known some guys who have declared their alphaness. Usually its after beating some guy down in the club and they yell out, 'who else wants some?' And nobody does. You know what I mean. Of course those same guys are in and out of jail, end up dead or strung out. Not really the smartest guys int he world but they do get laid like rock stars.

 

[FairShake]

"Bad" is exciting. It's exciting for girls...but it's also exciting for guys. I'm sure most guys here went through a wannabe gangsta phase. It's pretty much a right of passage for Western males. It makes you feel strong and rebellious. It's why we root for the Godfather, for Scarface, for Jesse James. Women get the same taste of strength and rebellion by being associated with it.

Of course, just as most of us grow out of it most women do too. It's only the truly deluded who pose or chase it for the rest of their lives. Also, in my opinion, the fake "bad boys" are even worse than so-called beta males. And they get blown out of the water even more. Most "bad boys" are fake btw.

 

[zekko]

Of course, just as most of us grow out of it most women do too. It's only the truly deluded who pose or chase it for the rest of their lives. Also, in my opinion, the fake "bad boys" are even worse than so-called beta males. And they get blown out of the water even more. Most "bad boys" are fake btw.

That's pretty much the way I feel about it. We all go through a rebellious phase (girls too). Most of us grow out of it. For some reason, the manosphere makes it seem like women are stuck in this phase for life, and never grow out of it, pining away the rest of their lives in misery because they didn't get to fvck that bad boy a second time back when they were 17, but then reluctantly have to settle for marriage with some boring stable man that they are not attracted to because they lost their looks overnight at age 30.

The above story happens to some women, no doubt. But what percentage? 80? 50? 20? 5? The manosphere acts like this is practically every woman. This represents such a narrow view of life I honestly don't know whether to find it humorous, sickening, or just pathetic.

As an alternative, ever think that maybe girls just go through a rebellious phase and then come to their senses? Most people (aside from PUAs evidently) think that the rebellious phase is a useful part of life that helps form the young adult's identity and permanent values. Or to put it another way, the lessons you learn by experience are more likely to stick with you than the lessons you are simply taught about.

 

[PlayHer Man]

"Bad" is exciting. It's exciting for girls...but it's also exciting for guys. I'm sure most guys here went through a wannabe gangsta phase. It's pretty much a right of passage for Western males. It makes you feel strong and rebellious. It's why we root for the Godfather, for Scarface, for Jesse James. Women get the same taste of strength and rebellion by being associated with it.

Of course, just as most of us grow out of it most women do too. It's only the truly deluded who pose or chase it for the rest of their lives. Also, in my opinion, the fake "bad boys" are even worse than so-called beta males. And they get blown out of the water even more. Most "bad boys" are fake btw.

Women never "grow out of it" bro. What happens is they get old and fat and can no longer attract such men. So they will TELL YOU they are ready for a stable, reliable, beta now after having their fun and going through that "phase".

Its sad how easily men are manipulated by women. A big part of being female is pride. Women have a lot of pride and don't like to admit they are worthless and being forced to "settle" as a result.. so they will pretend to reject the alpha/bad boy/DJ as if her vagina no longer tingles around him.

It does.. she just knows he is out of her league now. So she will go for the beta fag and make him feel like he "won the game" because he "got the girl in the end" --> Yeah...after she is used up and in the first stages of letting herself go.. NOW she is ready for the beta.. and he couldn't feel more lucky. :crackup: :crackup:

Calling this a "phase" is like calling men wanting a young, hot women a "phase".

 

[Ruthless]

Women never "grow out of it" bro. What happens is they get old and fat and can no longer attract such men. So they will TELL YOU they are ready for a stable, reliable, beta now after having their fun and going through that "phase".

Its sad how easily men are manipulated by women. A big part of being female is pride. Women have a lot of pride and don't like to admit they are worthless and being forced to "settle" as a result.. so they will pretend to reject the alpha/bad boy/DJ as if her vagina no longer tingles around him.

It does.. she just knows he is out of her league now. So she will go for the beta fag and make him feel like he "won the game" because he "got the girl in the end" --> Yeah...after she is used up and in the first stages of letting herself go.. NOW she is ready for the beta.. and he couldn't feel more lucky. :crackup: :crackup:

Calling this a "phase" is like calling men wanting a young, hot women a "phase".

PREACH ON BROTHER! Watch a group of middle aged women when a muscled/tatted guy rides up on a loud Harley. It's obvious he isn't a doughboy in a Prius.

 

[zekko]

they will pretend to reject the alpha/bad boy/DJ as if her vagina no longer tingles around him.

Alphas, bad boys, and DJs are three separate things.
I'll take a stab:

Alphas are top, dominant males.
Bad boys are immature, rebellious types.
DJs are followers of the SoSuave philosophy.

Calling this a "phase" is like calling men wanting a young, hot women a "phase".

Not the same thing. Women are attracted to hot males, but a young, hot male is not necessarily a bad boy. Most importantly, a criminal record is not necessary in order to attract women, or to make their vagina tingle.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Flaw in your logic.

This is not the case, today the western world is full of 'alphas'. That's why you are watching the destruction of the 1st world. Beta males build societies and have children, alphas sit around and do nothing but fvck and destroy.

The middle east is extremely beta as is China and Russia... beta in that they are betas with a system in place so that the average beta male has access to women, marriage and a good life. That system was destroyed in the West and now the only way to have any shred of existence is to take on 'alpha' characteristics. It is a sad time for the 1st world.

I've still yet to meet a man here who needs to Alpha his way into a woman's pants. Its a beta led society with checks and balances still in place. You provide stability, she gives you children. You build a life for your children and others, the economy is a direct result of this. If your economy is in the sh1tter, have a look at your birth-rate and number of single parent households and I think you'll find some corellation between the two. No children/stable family = No confidence in the economy.

Obsession with alpha being the thing to attain is what keeps our society down. Betas abroad don't give a sh1t, they are busy building money for king and country. You can't have a stable economy without a world built FOR beta males. Feminism has basically destroyed everything that was built so Beta males could access pvssy. If everyone has enough, no one really cares about having more than the other except the genetically flawed 'True Alpha' males. BTW there is not ONE single 'Alpha male' on this entire forum... the true alphas are usually in jail or on a talk show going on about their baby mama. True Alphas are losers.

hah, my wife just brought up a good point, Spiders are single mothers. Everyone hates spiders, is it any surprise?

The thing about China that no one tells you is the population is majority male because of the "one child" law, plus killing off first born females. Most men in China can't find women because there are not enough of them to go around.

So you have to be a top man in China to have a chance with the females (also helps to be a white male.. which explains your success). And YES.. they mostly want men with money/resources.. JUST LIKE IN THE WEST. :crackup:

 

[Bokanovsky]

Flaw in your logic.

This is not the case, today the western world is full of 'alphas'. That's why you are watching the destruction of the 1st world. Beta males build societies and have children, alphas sit around and do nothing but fvck and destroy.

The middle east is extremely beta as is China and Russia... beta in that they are betas with a system in place so that the average beta male has access to women, marriage and a good life. That system was destroyed in the West and now the only way to have any shred of existence is to take on 'alpha' characteristics. It is a sad time for the 1st world.

There seems to be a general misuse of the world "alpha" on this board. An alpha male, in a true sense, is nothing more than the top beta male. "Alpha" is a relative rather than absolute characteristic. An alpha male is only "alpha" in comparison to others. He can be challenged and defeated at any time by a beta male, at which point he reverts back to beta status (if he survives) and the successful beta challenger becomes the new alpha. This is how it works in the animal kingdom and in primitive human societies.

It's incorrect to say that alphas do not procreate. On the contrary, alphas have the pick of the litter when it comes to women and are therefore more likely to pass on their genes than betas. All these westerners that you speak of who want to f*ck without procreating are in no way "alpha".

 

[glass half full]

What's the real reason why women today are chasing after bad boys?

I think they have always been attracted to bad boys. It's something about the respect they get when around other people, male or female.

it is done nowadays to impress their fellow women. I have learned this from experience.

 

[LiveFreeX]

So you have to be a top man in China to have a chance with the females

Agreed. Success in China is, however, not measured in Biceps, Triceps and 'attitude'. Success is measured by wealth but you make it seem as if regular guys can't get a date. This isn't true either, a regular guy with a job usually has a woman, the one child policy did not deter THAT many families from having girls btw, the girls just aren't counted as citizens. My wife is an example of this, her family had a boy and then had her, she wasn't registered as a person and thus not allowed to receive community benefits like education or health stipends. Not every family killed off their girls. Also there are plenty of neighbouring countries with HUGE populations of poor families and a surplus of POOR women: Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, North Korea, Mongolia, India. Chinese are gaining ground on the world stage and many men are simply opting to marry 'foreign women'.

Success in the West is faulty and bs, 'Alpha' destructive characteristics are touted as the thing to achieve: Rebellion, Bad Boy, Jail Time, Tattoo, Smoking, Drug Addicted, wannabe-hiphopper. Are what women in the West gravitate towards.

Success in the East is measured by a man's education, willingness to work and provide for a family and ability to provide a stable household. This was also the case in the West until Feminism and the Gay agenda took hold. Now the Western media tells women what western mating guidelines are 'in fashion' this season. This is also why China is the new up and comer and Amerika has fallen by the wayside. We lost our values and ability to think rationally. I can walk down the street and see nerdy guys with pocket protectors, receding hair lines and coke bottle harry potter geeky ass glasses, hand in hand with a super hot broads and you think to yourself... WTF?!?!?!...

^^^^^^ That is wtf. This IS how it should be... this is what it takes for a strong and healthy society. It wasn't long ago that people were starving in the streets in China, women here haven't forgotten. This is the 'beta' paradise... brains over brawn attract mates. I like it here especially because I can play video games and board games and the women go to bed satisfied (I Brag about this a lot if you haven't noticed).

I understand you guys don't like the Chinese AND for good reason BUT the fact of the matter is that THEIR country is getting rich while yours is getting poor. They are still having babies and thus they are still doing something right.

I advocate coming to pickup a woman and heading home, that bs about 'they will change' is just that: BS. If they 'change', then they were always like that. My wife was brought up in extreme poverty, she is not about to forget that. Its moulded her into the person she is, a survivor and a fighter, she's not stupid enough to pick a bad guy and get a tattoo that will quickly de-value her among the male population, she knows her place and what it takes to create a stable family that stays out of starvation. If you travel abroad to look for stable minded women, 1st tier cities are not the places to look. You want women raised in the dirt, who ate sh1t and clawed tooth and nail to have some semblance of a life. They are not the 'trailer trash' types who actively choose poor, they are the 'refugee' types who are poor due to factors outside of their control: Drought, War, Famine. These are women who appreciate a roof over their head, a full stomach, a baby and an opportunity to better themselves...

What's the real reason why women today are chasing after bad boys?

The real reason is: Modern Western Women are spoiled by men, society and the law. If you decide to date these women, you are re-tooling your otherwise healthy behaviors to appeal to spoiled women. This is not the mark of a stable society.

anyway,,, end rant.