What women respond too... the player v. the nice BF

[beforeimgone]

Really it's nothing more than experience and observation. Learn to spot indicators of interest and be willing to approach. Be friendly up front, try to get the woman to laugh... look for indicators that she is trying to sell herself when this happens get her number or make a date. I never try to sell myself, and never talk about myself to the women I've just meet... I get her talking and just listen, I try to commit EVERYTHING she says to memory... all that comes in handy later when you are on a date... nothing impresses a woman more than the fact that you remember everything she tells you. Keep eye contact and imagine that you are fvcking her... I know this sounds nuts but it works... she will pick up on this and she will know you are interested in her sexually without you coming out and saying it.

I NEVER try to hook up with women the night we meet. I really wouldn't have any idea how to make this work, besides I'm too old for that... I left one night stands behind me when I left college over 25 years ago. My goal when I first meet a woman is to get her on a date... not sleep with her.... that comes later.



I really don't have any method other than I don't hide what I want, and I'm willing to go after what I want. I do not try to make anything happen with women who are not interested.

I see. So in a way, you are allowing her to make the decision to come with you or walk away from you at her own accord

 

[RangerMIke]

I see. So in a way, you are allowing her to make the decision to come with you or walk away from you at her own accord

Yep pretty much. I don't waste my time with women who are not willing to put in effort towards me. I would go broke as a PUA because I don't pretend to try and create attraction where none exists. My entire initial interaction with a woman is gauging her interest level.... if it's high I make a date, if it isn't I move onto another woman. In my experience this saves time, money, and emotional energy.

1. Is she making eye contact and smiling at me (IOI). If yes goto 2. Else ignore.
2. I joke and flirt with her. Does she smile and laugh (higher IOI) if yes, then goto 3. Else flush.
3. Try to build a connection if she makes it easy (even higher IOI) then move on to 4. Else back to 2.
4. Listen to what she is saying, is she trying to sell herself (yet higher IOI) if yes then goto 6.
5. If while she is talking she sells herself AND touches (about the highest IOI you can get with a women you just met) me goto 7.
6. Get her number and make a date in a week.
7. Return kino and make a date on the spot.

This works for me because the truth is that I have been genetically blessed. I'm over 6 feet, and people often tell me I look like Kevin Costner. Still have all my hair just slightly grey (which women freaking love) watch what I eat get plenty of sleep, yoga 3 x a week, weight lifting on days I'm not on the mat. Bike 16 miles a day. In addition, I wear tailored suits, nice shoes and always try to look my very best. It is a lot easier attracting women when you are good looking... it doesn't guarantee you can keep them, but it will get you a shot.

 

[zekko]

Mate, I feel as if you are asking because you may genuinely not know the answer. A couple friends and myself are discussing the correct way to be in order to have a woman that is completely devoted to your happiness. If you are tired of playing games and want to be straight up with your women then please join our discussion.

My point is that if you bring real value, then you don't have to play these games. To some extent, I think that's the "SoSuave method" as opposed to the "PUA method". Improve yourself so that you have real value.

PUAs find ways to fake having SMV. All this business about being mysterious and trying to convince her that you are highly sought after by other women are just short term tools. PUA tactics are generally only designed to get one night stands. Faking your value is not going to land you LTRs, at some point the girl is going to figure out that you are a phony. That's why it's better to build real value, then she can be attracted to the real you, and you don't have to go around trying to put up a false front and a false personality. I can't even imagine how such a thing would be satisfying.

That said, you still have to be a man. You don't want to bleed whiny emotions all over her, you don't want to go around crying about your weaknesses, you have to be the strong, masculine male that you were meant to be. If you stand up to pee, that shouldn't be that difficult.

 

[Jetleg]

How do you train a woman to be loyal?

you spank her in the a$$ and f*ck her face (srsly)

 

[yungballa]

Walking away is very powerful. I feel like you did the right thing with this situation; instead of tearing him down you had him pumped up! lmao its funny though how the whole situation he had no idea what was going on.

I learned somewhat about relationships in this thread, although I'm still in high school and me going exclusive with a girl wouldn't do me much justice.