What we can and MUST learn from the men on the pop the balloon shows

[Gamisch]

I think that's scarcity mindset ... you have to dress better, make more money and lift more because otherwise some dude is going to take your woman. First off, there's always going to be a better looking, richer, more muscular man than you. Secondly, if she's indeed your woman, then there's a connection/attraction there that supersedes all this material stuff. Thirdly, I did say that you have to raise your level (in all directions, mentally, physically, spiritually, financially etc), but do that out of a desire to improve yourself and be the best version you can, not out of fear of other men.

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Fear? It's simply about style. We gotta agree to disagree. I don't think that a man's style can be separated from his personality.

What if you don't have a woman? Is this a marriage forum or a forum for men who wanna be better in general? If a man is single and tries to maximise his results then style is an essential part of it. Again this proofs that men don't wanna talk about this , hence why so many men struggle. The men who DO understand this are ahead of their competitors. Yes competitors. Dating is a dog eats dog kinda scene.

I a sorry but you are FAR removed from reality if you believe that it's all about personality and that you can relax because " your( aka our) " woman won't be looking around.

 

[Gamisch]

I think that's scarcity mindset ... you have to dress better, make more money and lift more because otherwise some dude is going to take your woman. First off, there's always going to be a better looking, richer, more muscular man than you. Secondly, if she's indeed your woman, then there's a connection/attraction there that supersedes all this material stuff. Thirdly, I did say that you have to raise your level (in all directions, mentally, physically, spiritually, financially etc), but do that out of a desire to improve yourself and be the best version you can, not out of fear of other men.

Dude.

This is because I have the desire to improve and I try to get (those who also need it or want it) to chime in. I see how these men dress and talk and it inspired me.

I see many styles that I didn't necessarily seen before. And that's inspiring to me and thus I feel like 90% of men can learn from something seemingly superficial as this show.

Post some pictures from men dressed how you like to see a man dressed well. This is about the image,not the heart. Inspire someone instead of fear mongering as usual. Not every thread needs to be soaked in red/ black pill rethoric.

 

[DROPTOP_GTA]

Young urbanites might feel competitive because TPTB use the media; balloon type shows, tik tok & insta, and sport to create egoism and regionalism. Divide and conquer tactics to invoke a sense of inferiority or to pit man against man.
Those people portrayed are not my competition. As a young adult I may have thought they were cool. Those with a higher self value and maturity level might even consider the show and its participants dregs. Pardon the offence if this show is your thing.

 

[Gamisch]

Young urbanites might feel competitive because TPTB use the media; balloon type shows, tik tok & insta, and sport to create egoism and regionalism. Divide and conquer tactics to invoke a sense of inferiority or to pit man against man.
Those people portrayed are not my competition. As a young adult I may have thought they were cool. Those with a higher self value and maturity level might even consider the show and its participants dregs. Pardon the offence if this show is your thing.

It's about STYLE. How these men DRESS. NOT about the show. I don't know how I should articulate this otherwise.

I will say again...that the show is bs. Ofcourse it is. The women are trash. Duh. Yet the men are dressed Well and do well in life. And that's what we should/ could focus on!

Easy lay up to shyte on the show. Yes you are above these kinda shows, aren't we all? Ofcourse the show is bs. Yet I am pleasantly surprised how well these men present themselves.

If you have some examples of what you consider a great style please share. Again, it ain't that deep.

 

[CBear]

I am not hurt lol perhaps a tad annoyed because it's difficult to have simpl conversation about something as essential as style.

I just try to inspire men and myself on style. Tbh I was pleasantly surprised to see how those men present themselves. Not the cliche black American bs, instesd these men most of the time have a unique and fresh style.

Your response is you don't feel this because you are Eastern European and those men present themselves differently.

So I ask if you could share some visual examples to make clear what you mean.

I don't really see the problem. If anything I could probably learn a thing or two.

By the way, Mówić po polsku, a little bit at least so I know a thing or two about East Europe. Style isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I think about Eastern European men. Black men are way ahead when it comes to style.

I get that. My initial response was focused on this:
"Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't."

So for me, it's more about mindset. When I mentioned my background, it wasn't to make it about culture or to say that a certain mindset is more superior, it was for you to understand where I'm coming from. And no, generally Eastern European men are not seen as stylish. What I'm trying to say is you think someone like Jokic or Ibrahimovic or Khabib or Jiri give a **** how great another man seems to be or if they're better? They're way too focused on themselves to care. But that can go for any man from any culture or background. That's what that was coming from. Fulfill your potential for you and be the best man that you can be in every regard for you, not with fear of competition in mind.

 

[Gamisch]

I get that. My initial response was focused on this:
"Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't."

So for me, it's more about mindset. When I mentioned my background, it wasn't to make it about culture or to say that mindset is more superior, it was for you to understand where I'm coming from. And no, generally Eastern European men are not seen as stylish. What I'm trying to say is you think someone like Jokic or Ibrahimovic or Khabib or Jiri give a **** how great another man seems to be or if they're better? They're way too focused on themselves to care. But that can go for any man from any culture. That's what that was coming from.

You're talking about famous people who are the absolute best at what they do.

And on top of that east Europe has a different culture than "the west" ,where something like style is essential to be successful in dating. There are plenty of khabib looking men who would be incels in the west and end up flying back to Kazakhstan to marry their cousin (ask me how I know).

Gotta admit thread took a turn that I didn't intend nor expected. People complain that the forum dies but they also don't try to rehabilitate it .

I thought I was among players and men who wanna maximise their chances with women.

Ofcourse you need to be mentally sound, but that a completely different topic. If you can get away with a levi's jeans and a white t-shirt that's great for you. If your woman just want you for you, great. However, if you don't have a woman like that you'll have to be on top of the game on a stylistic level. And that's something that the male contestants clearly understand, and they deserve some respect for that.

 

[Gamisch]

I get that. My initial response was focused on this:
"Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't."

So for me, it's more about mindset. When I mentioned my background, it wasn't to make it about culture or to say that a certain mindset is more superior, it was for you to understand where I'm coming from. And no, generally Eastern European men are not seen as stylish. What I'm trying to say is you think someone like Jokic or Ibrahimovic or Khabib or Jiri give a **** how great another man seems to be or if they're better? They're way too focused on themselves to care. But that can go for any man from any culture or background. That's what that was coming from. Fulfill your potential for you and be the best man that you can be in every regard for you, not with fear of competition in mind.

You can copy paste this when we talk about hitting the gym as well. Or a hair transplant. Or what kinda car is a good choice.

"You think Elon musk worries about being ripped ? You think Jeff bezos needs muscles to attract women? My uncle is balding and fat yet his wife loves him"

When you mention make money to be more attractive someone will say" when you need money to get women you lost".

Men are lazy and uninspiring hence why 68% struggles and gets cheated on constantly. Men can't understand that the game is about leveling up on ALL facets. Including style ( which ironically is our weakest point)

I also used to be like that too. Women taught me that the game goes deeper than that. " Just be you bro " is the most damaging advice we can give to anyone.

 

[Gamisch]

My point still stands. First of all it's disappointing that despite having said numerous times DON'T let your feelings about the show get the best of you, most react about the damn show, that's stupid by default ( both the show and the responses). This is deeper than the usual topics I get that. This is Goldpill shyte, end game stuff.

Yall missing some serious gold nuggets here!!

Secondly and more importantly: black women are the most difficult to date. Due to this black men had to LEVEL UP drastically. And they did. They went from Pookie to a high class Tyrone . Where other races gt away with a whole lot, black men got rejected for the smallest things. So they covered themselves 360 entirely. That's what this is about, not about the women not about the show.

Some of these black dudes are now basically ABOVE those women. They are MORE valuable than the women and thus the pendulum swung entirely: they will be unique and hard to replace while the women are "just pretty" at best.

They managed to conquer the LMS end boss!
Looks: they look fresh to death. Unique styles that compliment their looks. Both stylistic and physical.
Money: they make great money, akin to being or becoming financially independent.
Status: they own businesses, are socially savy and active, carry entire communities, hustlers that manage to manipulate the legal system to their own advantage .

Don't let your bias get the best of you. I am proud to see these brothers moving like they do. 90% of complaints on the forum could be solved if they study how these types of men move.

Lastly: If you about that life you should be able to stand in that line with 100% confidence. You got your LMS covered twice, and it's basically a big advertisement for one self.

 

[Gamisch]

@DROPTOP_GTA care to elaborate?

I asked you numerous times to post some visual examples so we can have a conversation and learn from one another.

Or you just wanna shyte on efforts to help men move forward?

You argue against the fact that these brothers are winning in life and that most men can learn a thing or two from them?

Looking forward to your answer

 

[CornbreadFed]

Gentlemen, THIS is your competition. Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't.

I started watching this type of content because it's entertaining but more importantly; inspiring! These men smarting up and won't even THINK about going to such a show if their shyte ain't 100% watertight. THIS is where you wanna be: in a place where everything is checked and you know you can't be unmasked for whatever

What do yall think


Exactly, when you enter these macro dating environments like large cities, dating apps, and etc, your competition level explodes greatly. Men think it's their text game or something getting them rejected on the apps, but more than likely she is picking a higher value man over you.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And this is why it's difficult to inspire fellow men. Even here.

That's because men are best inspired by women. It's basic male nature and isn't going to change, and also why women's behavior matters.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Thirdly, I did say that you have to raise your level (in all directions, mentally, physically, spiritually, financially etc), but do that out of a desire to improve yourself and be the best version you can

Key point is you have to find your authentic self first before these improvements pay off in a real way.

 

[Gamisch]

Gentlemen, THIS is your competition. Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't.

I started watching this type of content because it's entertaining but more importantly; inspiring! These men smarting up and won't even THINK about going to such a show if their shyte ain't 100% watertight. THIS is where you wanna be: in a place where everything is checked and you know you can't be unmasked for whatever

What do yall think


Exactly, when you enter these macro dating environments like large cities, dating apps, and etc, your competition level explodes greatly. Men think it's their text game or something getting them rejected on the apps, but more than likely she is picking a higher value man over you.

Thank u.

To be clear I know you have your own strong opinion on things like this so I'm glad you say this.

My guess is that most participants here are non blacks, and thus they are unaware of the "struggles " that black men face in dating. My Arab ( incel)homeboy just flew to his hometown/country to buy a woman and my white incel homeboy got a girl the moment his father gave him a share in the family business. Most black men lack duch a foundation to fa back on..

Black women are THE worst to court/ date. But..they also a great predictor on how female nature will evolve with other races and cultures. Black women set the trends because they are most outspoken and loudest, two things that all women on this globe look up to.

This forced these men to go back to the drawing board and only come back once they've got ALL their ducks in a row . You have ZERO chance if you don't got your shyte together. And by shyte I mean spiritual, financial, physical and emotional. Once a (black) man manages to overcome those standards he will be desired by women from all races and cultures .

A lotta men don't even know yet what kinda struggles they'll face very ,very soon. But I will say this: because they gaslight reality the explosion of incels on the forum will increase.

You HAVE to be 360 all round covered. Style is a man's weakest point, perhaps neck on neck with hygiene / self care. Both things that even on a damn seduction forum dudes don't wanna talk about.

 

[Gamisch]

That's because men are best inspired by women. It's basic male nature and isn't going to change, and also why women's behavior matters.

Definitely. If Courtney Rain or Hot Hindi Psychologist says the same suddenly they are all ears.

I will keep pushing the importance of presentation though. If a man manages to present- maxxx he will have it 100 times easier dating and choosing women.