What we can and MUST learn from the men on the pop the balloon shows

[Gamisch]

Edit. It's NOT about the show or if you like the show. It's about how these men present themselves. If you got a better example please share , so we as men can learn from how other men present themselves in a good way.

Hear me out. I know the demographic on the forum isn't interested in this type of show. And yes, its kinda of a "black" show predominantly. And those who are watching are mostly interested in seeing women make a fool out of themselves.

But, imo the most important thing is to see how the men present themselves!

It are mostly black men but imo every man can learn from this. Here's why:
- they are all well dressed
- they are all well spoken and articulate.
-they got shyte going on in their life's
To name a few


Gentlemen, THIS is your competition. Your competitors are running businesses, sometimes look like they can lift 300 pounds, have money, have game, know how to dress. If you are unaware of this you might be thinking you can still use those bathroom photos from 2016 and next you'll be wondering why you get zero traction. You can't.

I started watching this type of content because it's entertaining but more importantly; inspiring! These men smarting up and won't even THINK about going to such a show if their shyte ain't 100% watertight. THIS is where you wanna be: in a place where everything is checked and you know you can't be unmasked for whatever

What do yall think

 

[DROPTOP_GTA]

Seems ridiculous. But I am older and of a different demographic.

Fruitfulness of youth, their standards are much lower than they portray. In a group setting "standards" of an ideal mate are high.
In a private 1 on 1 situation: holes and heartbeats all the superficial chit don't matter.
Boots gonna knock.

 

[Solomon]

The show is trash most of the women on that show are ran through 304s who are looking for "2pac in a suite" or "Ghost" from power
I do not take this show serious and treat it as entertainment at best
but even then the show was depressing to watch, most of those women are their late 20s/30s and even 40s rejecting a guy because of his "outfit" this is why men are dating out on all races because the standard in the states is just ridiculous

 

[Gamisch]

Seems ridiculous. But I am older and of a different demographic.

Fruitfulness of youth, their standards are much lower than they portray. In a group setting "standards" of an ideal mate are high.
In a private 1 on 1 situation: holes and heartbeats all the superficial chit don't matter.
Boots gonna knock.

And this is why it's difficult to inspire fellow men. Even here.

I specifically said DON'T pay attention to the show and it's shenanigans.

All that matters in this context is how these men carry themselves.

No knock on you bro but I already knew the first reaction would be knee jerk reaction " I don't like this , 304, ect ect".

This thread ain't about that. It's about how the men dress, talk ,and how much good things they got going on.

 

[Gamisch]

The show is trash most of the women on that show are ran through 304s who are looking for "2pac in a suite" or "Ghost" from power
I do not take this show serious and treat it as entertainment at best
but even then the show was depressing to watch, most of those women are their late 20s/30s and even 40s rejecting a guy because of his "outfit" this is why men are dating out on all races because the standard in the states is just ridiculous

Again , it's NOT about the women.

It's about the MEN. I wanna point out how well these men present themselves. Y'all react from the gut, I wanna have a conversation after you processed this from a teaching/ learning pov.

It's not about the women at all. Or the dynamics. Ofcourse I think this show is silly. It's about how well those men are dressed and how much positive things they got going on

 

[Gamisch]

The show is trash most of the women on that show are ran through 304s who are looking for "2pac in a suite" or "Ghost" from power
I do not take this show serious and treat it as entertainment at best
but even then the show was depressing to watch, most of those women are their late 20s/30s and even 40s rejecting a guy because of his "outfit" this is why men are dating out on all races because the standard in the states is just ridiculous

Okay. Despite what I bolded, still you gotta give the MEN credit that they're leveling up so much so that they basically manage to "overcome" all those standards.

Most of us here are completely unaware that the men on these shows are top tier men. Entrepreneurs, men with great paying jobs , men that are well groomed and got all their shyte together.

I don't even look at it for how women act
I know that already. What interests me more is how these men present themselves and carry themselves.

 

[DROPTOP_GTA]

Again , it's NOT about the women.


It's not about the women at all. Or the dynamics. Ofcourse I think this show is silly. It's about how well those men are dressed and how much positive things they got going on

some have a sense of style, but some dress like children

 

[Gamisch]

some have a sense of style, but some dress like children

I respectfully disagree. And I don't mean this one show specifically, but the show in general.

I see styles that I wouldn't think of myself, and many of the men on the show are well put together. Combine that with what they got going on and it's inspiring to me at least.

I challenge everyone to look passed the shenanigans and wanna talk about how to style and dress as a man.

I would love to see other examples tho.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You could look like a street side pomegranate farmer but as long as you have a personal purpose and code you will convey it effortlessly and it will act like gravity to those around you. The population wants to be lead.

 

[Gamisch]

You could look like a street side pomegranate farmer but as long as you have a personal purpose and code you will convey it effortlessly and it will act like gravity to those around you. The population wants to be lead.

So you say style doesn't matter?

What happened to men trying to be on top of their game????

 

[Divorced w 3]

So you say style doesn't matter?

What happened to men trying to be on top of their game????

If you are espousing the virtues I listed above, and being that guy is who you are to the max, then you are on top

 

[CBear]

Respectfully disagree. What you see on the surface level are men that care about their looks, state that they have this career or that, or have businesses. But when looking deeper, you see that most of these men are feminine and way too emotional (hence why they care so much about their looks) and are in one way or many, lying or stretching the truth about who they are. That's why they struggle with getting women, or if they do, they're unable to hold anything down due to their own issues. Thats also why they waste their time (that should be precious) to go on shows like this. With regards to that, however, work your ass off in all aspects of your life (physical, emotional, financial, spiritual, etc.) To be the best man that you can be but don't be demotivated by the competition, there's a reason why dating culture is so broken nowadays and men like this are half, if not majority of the reason for this. Understand that there's always a catch when something seems too good to be true. If they were TRULY high value in all aspects, women would be fighting for them and they'd be taken and not on these pointless shows. I think it's easy to be carried away and have a false, and demotivating, sense of reality when watching movies or shows like this. You should be the best man out there without needing to be involved in mainstream outlets. But then again, I come from a traditional eastern european mindset where masculinity is seen differently and more of a idgaf attitude and everyone just comes into place with hard work. But I get where you're trying to go with this and can appreciate your attempt to motivate others. I just don't agree that these are who men should look up to. I didn't watch any of the videos that may be on this post btw so I may be missing something.

 

[Solomon]

Okay. Despite what I bolded, still you gotta give the MEN credit that they're leveling up so much so that they basically manage to "overcome" all those standards.

Most of us here are completely unaware that the men on these shows are top tier men. Entrepreneurs, men with great paying jobs , men that are well groomed and got all their shyte together.

I don't even look at it for how women act
I know that already. What interests me more is how these men present themselves and carry themselves.

I'm not arguing if the men are top-tier or not, I'm arguing that the premise of the show is trash it's plain and simple
There is nothing for me personally to learn about that show that I already don't know if anything it just gives confirmation biased to stay away from majority of women, especially those that want social media clout
A top-tier man wouldn't be caught dead on that show due to valuing their reputation
Not saying top-tier men don't go on that show but just because you have a business, are educated and dress nice doesn't make you top-tier
I value character, is the person God fearing, and honest, do they uplift their fellow men? are they respected by their peers and community?
I know scumbags that are millionaires personally does that make them top-tier men? no it makes them high-earning men

 

[pipeman84]

Gentlemen, THIS is your competition.

There is no competition, IMO.
It's particularly laughable to think in these terms about ran through women. It's like competing for buying an used car.
If you're talking about an unicorn, then the competition, if you insist to look at it this way, is only with yourself. You have to raise your level in order to match that unicorn (meaning an attractive, mentally sane, under 25yrs old virgin).

 

[Gamisch]

I'm not arguing if the men are top-tier or not, I'm arguing that the premise of the show is trash it's plain and simple
There is nothing for me personally to learn about that show that I already don't know if anything it just gives confirmation biased to stay away from majority of women, especially those that want social media clout
A top-tier man wouldn't be caught dead on that show due to valuing their reputation
Not saying top-tier men don't go on that show but just because you have a business, are educated and dress nice doesn't make you top-tier
I value character, is the person God fearing, and honest, do they uplift their fellow men? are they respected by their peers and community?
I know scumbags that are millionaires personally does that make them top-tier men? no it makes them high-earning men

I try to say its NOT about the show.

I could've posted a picture of a man dressed well trying to accomplish the same, but i should've known that style and clothes are something we don't talk about here...

It ain't even that deep. Thread was meant to inspire men om a stylistic level. Feck that show ofcourse that show is bs.

Unfortunately it's difficult to have conversations about style on the forum. Oh well..

And by the way, imo it's more of a way for men to create some cloud for themselves. I don't see (yet) how that is wrong. A dude who is winning in life who isn't scared to show himself to the world doesn't mind standing there.

 

[Gamisch]

There is no competition, IMO.
It's particularly laughable to think in these terms about ran through women. It's like competing for buying an used car.
If you're talking about an unicorn, then the competition, if you insist to look at it this way, is only with yourself. You have to raise your level in order to match that unicorn (meaning an attractive, mentally sane, under 25yrs old virgin).

This thread gonna expose how far removed men are really from what needs to be done.

I get the most philosophical answers while it's meant to be about style. Or people talk about the women...Read the opening post before you answer.

And yes, you definitely have competition. That's your competition right there. Men who dres fly, own businesses and make money and sometimes can lift 300 pounds. If you're not going out regularly you won't even know who you're competing against.

It's bs to say that your 18 y.o virgin unicorn doesn't want a man who is well dressed. Doesn't make any sense

 

[Gamisch]

Respectfully disagree. What you see on the surface level are men that care about their looks, state that they have this career or that, or have businesses. But when looking deeper, you see that most of these men are feminine and way too emotional (hence why they care so much about their looks) and are in one way or many, lying or stretching the truth about who they are. That's why they struggle with getting women, or if they do, they're unable to hold anything down due to their own issues. Thats also why they waste their time (that should be precious) to go on shows like this. With regards to that, however, work your ass off in all aspects of your life (physical, emotional, financial, spiritual, etc.) To be the best man that you can be but don't be demotivated by the competition, there's a reason why dating culture is so broken nowadays and men like this are half, if not majority of the reason for this. Understand that there's always a catch when something seems too good to be true. If they were TRULY high value in all aspects, women would be fighting for them and they'd be taken and not on these pointless shows. I think it's easy to be carried away and have a false, and demotivating, sense of reality when watching movies or shows like this. You should be the best man out there without needing to be involved in mainstream outlets. But then again, I come from a traditional eastern european mindset where masculinity is seen differently and more of a idgaf attitude and everyone just comes into place with hard work. But I get where you're trying to go with this and can appreciate your attempt to motivate others. I just don't agree that these are who men should look up to. I didn't watch any of the videos that may be on this post btw so I may be missing something.

Okay..post some pics from Eastern European men and how they conduct themselves.

No need for deep answers. Just inspire your fellow men how to present himself.

That's it.

 

[pipeman84]

This thread gonna expose how far removed men are really from what needs to be done.

I get the most philosophical answers while it's meant to be about style. Or people talk about the women...Read the opening post before you answer.

And yes, you definitely have competition. That's your competition right there. Men who dres fly, own businesses and make money and sometimes can lift 300 pounds. If you're not going out regularly you won't even know who you're competing against.

It's bs to say that your 18 y.o virgin unicorn doesn't want a man who is well dressed. Doesn't make any sense

I think that's scarcity mindset ... you have to dress better, make more money and lift more because otherwise some dude is going to take your woman. First off, there's always going to be a better looking, richer, more muscular man than you. Secondly, if she's indeed your woman, then there's a connection/attraction there that supersedes all this material stuff. Thirdly, I did say that you have to raise your level (in all directions, mentally, physically, spiritually, financially etc), but do that out of a desire to improve yourself and be the best version you can, not out of fear of other men.

 

[CBear]

Okay..post some pics from Eastern European men and how they conduct themselves.

No need for deep answers. Just inspire your fellow men how to present himself.

That's it.

I don't need to because again, that's not the point. There's plenty of examples of athletes in the NBA or UFC if you care that much.

The intention wasn't to offend you or hurt your feelings. You asked for our thoughts and then when thoughts were given, you say no need for deep answers??? Sorry you took it the wrong way. and I agree that style is important and how you carry yourself but I don't agree that men should focus on their competition when trying to better themselves. That's what ladies do.

 

[Gamisch]

I don't need to because again, that's not the point. There's plenty of examples of athletes in the NBA or UFC if you care that much.

The intention wasn't to offend you or hurt your feelings. You asked for our thoughts and then when thoughts were given, you say no need for deep answers??? Sorry you took it the wrong way. and I agree that style is important and how you carry yourself but I don't agree that men should focus on their competition when trying to better themselves. That's what ladies do.

I am not hurt lol perhaps a tad annoyed because it's difficult to have simpl conversation about something as essential as style.

I just try to inspire men and myself on style. Tbh I was pleasantly surprised to see how those men present themselves. Not the cliche black American bs, instesd these men most of the time have a unique and fresh style.

Your response is you don't feel this because you are Eastern European and those men present themselves differently.

So I ask if you could share some visual examples to make clear what you mean.

I don't really see the problem. If anything I could probably learn a thing or two.

By the way, Mówić po polsku, a little bit at least so I know a thing or two about East Europe. Style isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I think about Eastern European men. Black men are way ahead when it comes to style.