What value do YOU DJ's of SS provide a woman?

[Bumsniff]

Look moron... every woman is different.

One HB9 might see value in a meathead with big muscles who looks like the Rock. To her.. that might be the key to her p*ssy. To another HB9 a guy who started his own business and makes BANK might be the key to her p*ssy. To another HB9 a coke dealer who can give her drugs might be the key to her p*ssy.

Got it?

This "one size fits all" thinking you have on how women select men shows how ignorant and clueless you are about getting laid. I think the answers given in this thread so far are pretty good.

Now stop being a faggot troll and move on bro. :yawn:

playherman thinks HB9's go for muscles, money or coke. Playhermans simplistic thoughts are more than enough evidence he is a fraudulent goofball. Shows how much game playherman has and qualities he offers women of SUBSTANCE. Playherman himself KNOWS he offers no VALUE to women of SUBSTANCE and has NOTHING to offer them but his retarded promises of muscles, money and coke. What a joke playherman is. I'm glad he admits he is a joker.

Playherman knows when his muscles dont compare to a better man, his money doesn't match up to a better man and his coke runs out he has NOTHING but his retarded thoughts.

playherman stays LOSING to BETTER men than he could EVER be.

 

[PlayHer Man]

playherman thinks HB9's go for muscles, money or coke. Playhermans simplistic thoughts are more than enough evidence he is a fraudulent goofball. Shows how much game playherman has and qualities he offers women of SUBSTANCE. Playherman himself KNOWS he offers no VALUE to women of SUBSTANCE and has NOTHING to offer them but his retarded promises of muscles, money and coke. What a joke playherman is. I'm glad he admits he is a joker.

Playherman knows when his muscles dont compare to a better man, his money doesn't match up to a better man and his coke runs out he has NOTHING but his retarded thoughts.

playherman stays LOSING to BETTER men than he could EVER be.

There is no "losing" unless you view women as prizes to WIN.

If you weren't a retarded low-testosterone faggot.. you would understand that.

PlayHer Man feels sorry for Bumsniff

 

[JoeMarron]

Lol two threads on the same topic. There has already been several answers provided but you keep bringing up these mythical better men that we don't stand a chance against. Oh wise OP instead of claiming that no one here offers any real value why don't you enlighten us on what true value really is. This thread is utterly useless atm.

 

[Bumsniff]

There is no "losing" unless you view women as prizes to WIN.

If you weren't a retarded low-testosterone faggot.. you would understand that.

PlayHer Man feels sorry for Bumsniff

Playherman the testosterphony is using estrogen fueled attempts at shaming because deep inside playherman KNOWS he offers no VALUE to women that they can't get from a BETTER man.

Betterman>>>>Playherman. :yes:

 

[Sandow]

Hey Bumsniff, that time of the month for ya? It's ok, if constantly crying like a little girl makes you feel better about your worthless self, then I completely understand :crackup: :crackup: No really, keep btching like a typical women. It's getting hilarious! YOU are proving to everyone here, YOU have nothing to offer

 

[PlayHer Man]

Playherman the testosterphony is using estrogen fueled attempts at shaming because deep inside playherman KNOWS he offers no VALUE to women that they can't get from a BETTER man.

Betterman>>>>Playherman. :yes:

Aawww.. PlayHer Man is "shaming you" too much?

Did I hurt your feelings faggot? :crackup:

 

[donking]

cu m for her dumpster.

 

[Bumsniff]

Hey Bumsniff, that time of the month for ya? It's ok, if constantly crying like a little girl makes you feel better about your worthless self, then I completely understand :crackup: :crackup: No really, keep btching like a typical women. It's getting hilarious! YOU are proving to everyone here, YOU have nothing to offer

Another ZERO value pathetic excuse for a man who avoids the core of the topic by deflecting with his emo estrogen fueled shaming attempts. At LEAST Danger has answered the topic though it STILL won’t guarantee him or ANY of you a high value woman cannot find a BETTER man with more VALUE than you but at LEAST it’s a pretty solid foundation to start with. Sandow and Playherman get kudos for at least admitting by not answering the topic because what they have to offer a high value woman is NOTHING. ***Maybe they can impress the rest of their peers with their collection of green dots on sosuave *hehe! but to a high value woman they offer ZILCH but their own deluded foolishness.

Playherman and sandow = both lost little boy's in mens bodies with ZERO VALUE to offer to ANY woman of HIGH VALUE. :yes:

 

[backbreaker]

lol you remind me of a dude on another forum named realstevecook lol.

 

[Jitterbug]

I agree Bumsniff appears to be a troll poster, after seeing some of his/her other threads. So I guess that explains the responses.

But I still think the original question is a good one, it's just that the wrong person is asking it apparently.

You can be the right person to ask that question in a different thread, if you want.

 

[zinc4]

And yet none of you STILL can provide the VALUE YOU GIVE a woman.

Women can get value from BETTER MEN than YOU.

What makes YOU so special? None of you can answer because you KNOW you DO NOT POSSESS the VALUE a REAL 7,8,9, let alone 10 can and will get.

What an annoying woman you are...

But your original question is valid, however, slightly misworded...it should worded: What makes women desire you so much?

Contrary to what everyone here spouts off, i don't believe real value has much to do with status or money. Real value is being a good person who doesn't need any woman to make himself happy because he has much higher goals. And someone that a woman will ultimately have to chase after for something remotely serious and will feel enlightened by when in his presence.

A lot of people will say.....but that is BS...i am a good person and i don't feel that way...we are a dime a dozen..but i am talking about a truly strong person when i say good and someone who has faced their worst fears and pushed themselves to their limits, numerous times... physical, emotional, mental and spiritual....and someone who doesn't need anyone for anything....besides maybe close family members.

 

[Purefilth]

Aawww.. PlayHer Man is "shaming you" too much?

Did I hurt your feelings faggot? :crackup:

I think you did.

I found "him" here - http://imageshack.us/a/img689/1483/butthurtp.jpg

 

[pinkfl]

I can tell you what I'm looking for in a guy, if it will help seeing a female's perspective and what is valuable.

I have strong work ethic. I always have. My parents taught me how to budget, how to live within my means, and how to work hard. As such, I want a man to do the same. I'm not judging by how much he has, but by how he budgets what he does have.

I care about my health and appearance. I work out, eat healthy, cook well balanced meals. A guy that eats nothing but crap and isn't in shape is a turn off. This even extends to drinking, smoking, and drugs. Drinking alcohol excessively and smoking and all that prematurely ages you. I am simply not interested in someone that doesn't care about all aspects of their health. I don't dress like trash, either. I present myself in a respectable way. So, I want a guy that can also clean himself up and present himself in a respectable manner.

I have hobbies and interests outside of my career. As a result, I do not depend on a man to fulfill all my social needs, and he needs to have hobbies and interests too. I want someone well-rounded, because otherwise I'm forced to be some sort of entertainment for someone else and then I feel like a babysitter.

I have served as a caregiver for my father after he had back surgery. I helped my family pay bills, I took him to physical therapy, helped cook meals, helped my mother cope with the stress, and took care of my own issues as well. I don't need a man that's going to cry or whine or break down or forget to feed himself or just in general does not know how to handle adversity. Life happens and it's not a breeze. I have seen how hard life can get, and you know what? I got through it. I cannot handle a man acting like a petulant teenager over minor issues. Basically? When life crap comes up (losing a job, etc), can he man up and handle it?

As you can see, while I do care about appearance, finances, etc, it's not black and white. I care about appearance in the sense of "do you take care of yourself?". I care about finances in the sense of "Do you budget or live way outside your means?" and not how much he makes.

The value that a real man brings to the table is being a healthy, well rounded individual. And both low-quality and high-quality women will be attracted to such a person.

 

[zinc4]

I can tell you what I'm looking for in a guy, if it will help seeing a female's perspective and what is valuable.

I have strong work ethic. I always have. My parents taught me how to budget, how to live within my means, and how to work hard. As such, I want a man to do the same. I'm not judging by how much he has, but by how he budgets what he does have.

I care about my health and appearance. I work out, eat healthy, cook well balanced meals. A guy that eats nothing but crap and isn't in shape is a turn off. This even extends to drinking, smoking, and drugs. Drinking alcohol excessively and smoking and all that prematurely ages you. I am simply not interested in someone that doesn't care about all aspects of their health. I don't dress like trash, either. I present myself in a respectable way. So, I want a guy that can also clean himself up and present himself in a respectable manner.

I have hobbies and interests outside of my career. As a result, I do not depend on a man to fulfill all my social needs, and he needs to have hobbies and interests too. I want someone well-rounded, because otherwise I'm forced to be some sort of entertainment for someone else and then I feel like a babysitter.

I have served as a caregiver for my father after he had back surgery. I helped my family pay bills, I took him to physical therapy, helped cook meals, helped my mother cope with the stress, and took care of my own issues as well. I don't need a man that's going to cry or whine or break down or forget to feed himself or just in general does not know how to handle adversity. Life happens and it's not a breeze. I have seen how hard life can get, and you know what? I got through it. I cannot handle a man acting like a petulant teenager over minor issues. Basically? When life crap comes up (losing a job, etc), can he man up and handle it?

As you can see, while I do care about appearance, finances, etc, it's not black and white. I care about appearance in the sense of "do you take care of yourself?". I care about finances in the sense of "Do you budget or live way outside your means?" and not how much he makes.

The value that a real man brings to the table is being a healthy, well rounded individual. And both low-quality and high-quality women will be attracted to such a person.

You are a woman controlled by emotions...therefore any guy who knows what he is doing could break you down after an initial connection was formed to where none of what you just said would apply nor matter.

Guys.....NEVER listen to what a woman says what she wants or values...the truth is they have no idea what they really want until they meet a guy that can pull her emotional strings like a puppet.

And Pink...stop being such a hypocrite....you are covered in tatoos for crying out loud.

Also, stop qualifying yourself to us...it's petty and annoying.

 

[Atom Smasher]

i agree. the OP is pretty abrasive but the question in itself is a valid one

The sad thing is, the OP hasn't said anything that isn't in the DJ bible

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15803

every post in this thread has either tried to reframe the question or use an ad homiemn based argument, including a freaking mod at that, but one actually has seriously tried to answer the question, because they know they don't' have anything to offer.

I can say that beucase I was there at a opint. I came here to get A specific girl that's why I came to this site. And for all the tips, lay guides, PUA material, i realized one day that she was just out of my league. she didn't think i was ugly but she could do better than me, and at the end of the day that's what mattered.

The light went off and I started to work on being a man of value. if you want true catches you have to bring **** to the table. if you dno't take anything else from this site you need to take that. and i'm not talkign about swimming in *****, any dip**** can fvck head cases and losers and BPD girls i'm talking about girls that are worth actually talking to and that bring **** to the table and are fun to be around because they don't need you to take care of them or they aren't trying to fix you and ****.

so what do you bring to the table. are you in shape, do you look great? are you funny can you make people laugh? can you provide a comfortable life style or do you have enough disposable income to have fun?

it's a sad day when you have an entire thread contradicting **** that's in the DJ bible. this site has gone to hell in a hand basket.

Well, our Mr. bb couldn't resist taking the bait.

I'll explain something to you. If the OP was asking in an intellectually honest way, genuinely interested in stimulating some useful discussion, many of us would have gladly added our thoughts as to what value we bring to the table. Personally, I can't bring myself to participate in a troll post with any degree of seriousness. The OP's intent is to INFLAME, hence most sensible men's reluctance to participate.

Calling out troll behavior is not an "ad homiemn based argument" (sic) but rather an exposure of the actual dynamic.

I suggest, bb, that it might be folly and counter-productive for you personally to maintain membership in a forum in which you've repeatedly expressed derision for its members, as evidenced by several past rants that preceded your "leaving for good".

In this particular thread, the bait has been cast, and only a few bit. I don't see a lot of contradiction of things that are in the DJ Bible, but rather a refusal to debase oneself by being baited into a male-shaming p!ssing match.

I would submit that the site's "going to hell in a hand basket" has more to do with the proliferation of trolling and of inflammatory posts (which I can't stop because I can't just shut down multiple threads on a whim) than men recognizing and calling out these trolls.

This thread stinks to its core, and that's why men here are handling it the way they are. Now, start a brand-new, serious thread about what we as men bring to the table, and I and many others would gladly participate constructively.

Guys, how do you feel about backbreaker's assertion that you know you have nothing to offer a woman?

 

[Jitterbug]

backbreaker took the bait because it's yet another irresistible opportunity to tell us how awesome he is.

 

[pinkfl]

Guys.....NEVER listen to what a woman says what she wants or values...the truth is they have no idea what they really want until they meet a guy that can pull her emotional strings like a puppet.

And Pink...stop being such a hypocrite....you are covered in tatoos for crying out loud.

Also, stop qualifying yourself to us...it's petty and annoying.

I don't have a single tattoo on my body.

Stop resorting to insulting me or attempting to discredit me when I express my point of view. I have merely stated my opinion and why I have such opinions. Cool your jets.

In fact, what I said ESSENTIALLY reiterates what this forum expresses in your "bible"

I say I want a guy with hobbies/interests..."Focuses on his dreams. A passion (art, music..), a life-long dream to own the world, etc" and "Never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul. Heart, dedication to YOUR life."
I say I want someone that takes care of his appearance, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16520

Essentially, I am saying that a LOT of the stuff in there rings true.

 

[zekko]

I would submit that the site's "going to hell in a hand basket" has more to do with the proliferation of trolling and of inflammatory posts (which I can't stop because I can't just shut down multiple threads on a whim) than men recognizing and calling out these trolls.

Is it my imagination or has there been a lot more trolling on these forums lately?

Anyway, there was nothing wrong with the original post. You had to be familiar with the OP's posting history to see what was up, which I was not.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Love.

 

[Purefilth]

I don't have a single tattoo on my body.

Stop resorting to insulting me or attempting to discredit me when I express my point of view. I have merely stated my opinion and why I have such opinions. Cool your jets.

In fact, what I said ESSENTIALLY reiterates what this forum expresses in your "bible"

I say I want a guy with hobbies/interests..."Focuses on his dreams. A passion (art, music..), a life-long dream to own the world, etc" and "Never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul. Heart, dedication to YOUR life."
I say I want someone that takes care of his appearance, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16520

Essentially, I am saying that a LOT of the stuff in there rings true.

If you're hard up for cawk at the moment, pink, then get yourself a plane ticket over here. i'll throw a fvck your way :yes:

Was that charming or what? - My best line, that was.