I've expected to come here one day and see this forum (at least some of the posts) gone into that blackhole into the internet. Therefore, there is no spoon!Originally posted by SexPDX:
Pook, nothing but love for ya, but this is a damnable lie. In fact I would go so far as to say you are eating this up with a spoon and there is no reason you should not because it is a good discussion.
My vanity lies on other things, completly deattached from this site.
For writing I consider to be 'effort', it would have to be a type of verse, say iambic pentameter or spenser form. Everything I write on this forum I do with my little finger. That is why I make so many crass mistakes and elementary errors with spelling and such. (Someone reminded me about THEN and THAN! LOL!) I'm not putting much an effort. (My posts run long because I love reading my thoughts, haha)OTOH if you truly do HATE this type of exchange as you say then the fact that you are expending so much effort towards it does not speak very highly of the value you place on your own time.
Anyhow, last night I decided to take to heart what you have been saying and carry that attitude into the field with me. I was hanging out at LJ's place (my wing/field mentor in case you don't recall me mentioning him) and we had a couple attractive girls come over, one of who he had known and recently gotten back in touch with. LJ, BTW, has a similar attitude to what you mention about keeping the focus on yourself but he articulates it differently, "always stick with what YOUR game is" is how he puts it. I just decided I would not put myself in the mindset of pursuit or making efforts at attraction untill I had qualified their personalities to see where they fit in with what I had going on keeping the focus on myself.
The biggest risk for many here comes not with failure (for if we weren't failures at first, we wouldn't be here!), but with success. I have seen far too many guys, once knowing that they can easily GET women, end up totally losing themselves. This is not to say that women are bad or that the game is bad. But the point is not to live so you can Don Juan; it is to Don Juan so that you can live.
I've always been afraid that this forum would turn into a satellite for Speed Seduction. There are plenty of SS type sites; I haven't found another site like this one. SS comes and goes her in cycles which is fine. But regardless of the ****y type SSers talk, there is more to women than anything dreamed in the PU.
Do not let the Game become the aim of your life (for that would amount to a sad life!). Even with your free-time, have some other priorities.
"But Pook! But Pook! Rest assured that the Game shall be my life."
What is your life? It is a matter of habit. Show me your habits and I'll show you your life.
Obviously, no one who makes no effort to don juan is going to do so overnight, no matter how much is read. A big key in being successful with don juaning is HABIT.
But don't let the habit continue to swell and grow and shove off the other habits, especially the ones that aim at your own idealism and dreams. For if you lose those, you lose your life.
There is high potential in all of us, even if we don't realize it ourselves, and I'm going to do everything I can to yank it out of you.
Haha, they do tend to do that!The girls kept talking to each other while they were with each other but when I isolated on of them on the back porch leaving LJ with the other she was kind of a high-strung blabbermouth. I would throw in bits and pieces of deeper conversation and she did bit and carried those thread of conversation on for actually a while making it a good conversation but at the first slight lull of the conversation she was back to blabbering about what she had been talking about the whole time she was there.
When men talk, we usually focus on the SUBJECT of the discussion. We can talk on and on about a subject and forget that the other person is there. It is like we are talking of the mental idea, THAT is the focus.
When women talk, they usually talk to each other. They can never talk like men, in forgetting the present surroundings and talking and thinking of the transcendent thought at hand. No, there is no 'subject' but only to the other person. Thus, anything you talk about is going to be seen as how it is seen or thought in relation to her or something else. (That is why as soon as the princess gets out of class, she is immediately on her cell phone. Heaven forbid she be alone for a few minutes and has to endure not silence but the transcendent thoughts of her MIND.)
Although the feminine does not like intellectualism, she DOES like a guy who is smart (not because she can hear you blabber intellectualism, but because your added value means her added value). It's often good to try to get something like you were doing with the chick. She, herself, might discover a 'mental connection' and fall in love with you with her mind (which the body follows). (And this is all without the incredible connection pattern.)For a while I got her talking about whether or not she knew her trigram (feng shui) and I told her a little bit about what feng shui and qi are all about. I got some kino in on the porch and we went back inside.
Yes, but I haven't noticed INTELLIGENT chicks behaving like that (those are the ones I always want). Or maybe its a matter of maturity.Also, I have come to realize that what may seem like annoying, nervous blabber coming from chicks may actually be product of them being made slightly nervous from feeling a glimmer of attraction and attempting to mask that attraction by appearing "busy" by either figiting or blabbering.
At this point I am thinking this girls DEFINITELY not LTR material or anything like that and DOES have some personal mannerisms that are slightly annoying but it in NO WAY makes it such that I don't still want to have sex with her.
I'm not saying you must go LTR. Just keep your own ideals and dreams intact. And don't let the women suck up too much of your precious time.
I keep saying this because we all have such an unfilled potential. We make up excuses for successes with the words 'luck', 'talent', 'skills' or 'genius' yet IN EVERY CASE these fellows INVESTED their time rather than SPENT it.
Thomas Jefferson had the looks and skills to go get the girls. He would go to dances and parties, and be with all the girls. But he realized that time was flying by and only becoming faster. So he set the next part of his life in study, reading, writing, and all. He had an image of himself and realized that if that image was to become reality, he had to work on it.
"But Pook, we cannot be a Thomas Jefferson." Who says!? WHO SAYS!? Don't tell me you can't or anyone can't. The colonies were only 3 million people. 3 million! My hometown is larger than that! And such men of such ability came from such a small population! What is the population now? And where are the Men? WHERE?
The world's population has been relatively small for most of history. Only since the Industrial Revolution and all has the population boomed. But before that, there were the greatest artists, the finest musicians, the most insightful philosophers, and greatest men. Where are they today!? Our population is far larger than anytime in history. Shouldn't the number of 'prime movers' be LARGER?
My guess is the 'Remnant' idea. It is beyond dispute that the Renaissance was a blossom of thought and ability. Yet, its population was LESS than that of the Middle Ages. Most particularly, the Bubonic Plague came and reduced one third of the European population. The survivors, the remnants, were much more aware of death, decay, and the passage of time than their preceding generations. This drove them 'away' from the womb, that devouring Nature. They literally went to war against Nature and created empires and treatises, plays and masterpieces, that would stand the test of time.
My guess is that today we have assumed victory over Nature. Like a conquered thing, we have fallen in love with it. That we will destroy the earth without consciously trying, that the old style of literature/poetic heroism should be the responsibility of science, nature's classifier. "Psychologies, mental works of the brain, evolution theories- these are to be the basis of our lifestyles." But where is the transcendence in it? "Young men running for women all the time- that is natural." Yes, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't demand more.
[Sosuave.com: Noone can get on a tangent like Pook.]
Thanks, Sosuave! ... I think.
Back to Trickynick post:
Is it? I hope so.Pook, your points hinting at me seeing the game itself as the substance in life rather than the PRODUCT of substance in my life are well-taken I can assure you.
Yes, but it can actually get old.That being said I would like to ask you, don't you enjoy spitting game at a woman for it's own sake? Isn't it fun to you? Don't you get a charge out of it? I sure as hell do and don't understand how you can't.
Those who never tire of 'the game' are eternally children. These are the same people who never tire of movies, or anything of entertainment.
To illustrate the point, I've invited Byron to this post. Byron, what do you have to say?
"That's easy, Pook...
"It is true from early habit, one must make love mechanically as one swims; I was once very fond of both, but now as I never swim unless I tumble into the water, I don't make love till almost obliged."
And, Master Poet Byron, the writer of our Don Juan poem and icon, what effect does women have on you?
"There is something to me very softening in the presence of a woman, some strange influence, even if one is not in love with them, which I cannot at all account for, having no very high opinion of the sex. But yet, I always feel in better humour with myself and every thing else, if there is a woman within ken."
And of subtracting the infancy from ourselves?
"When one subtracts from life infancy (which is vegetation), sleep, eating and swilling, buttoning and unbuttoning-how much remains of downright existence? The summer of a dormouse."
But Byron...
"Yes"
What is your last word... of the body and mind?
"Man is born passionate of body, but with an innate though secret tendency to the love of Good in his main-spring of Mind. But God help us all! It is at present a sad jar of atoms."
A sad jar of atoms! Alas!
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POOK
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"As you think, you shall become."
"Impossible scenarios are ingeniusly disguised as opportunties."