Okay guys...Enough of this. You want a real answer? Then why don't you ask someone who actually has EXPERIENCE with the subject. Note: were talking about BARE HANDS fighitng. I will get into weapons fighting later.
First thing first. You can throw out all the garbage martial arts McDojo Bull****. This includes but is not limited to:
Kung Fu, Tae-Kwon Do, American Karate (Some forms of Japaenes, is actually semi-not sucky, including Kyokushin), Kun Tao Silat, Hapkido, Hapkiyoosol, and any "undefeatable!!@@1!!! systems11@@11", designed by some retard who has 19 martial arts titles, and has taught the US MARINE CORP!!"
All of the above are bull****. 100% utter, complete bull****. So please, don't start arguing to me that people who practice this crap can fight. It's ridiculous.
Next you simply visit where the NO RULES fighting ring began. Brazil. If any of you have ever seen the Brazilian Vale Tudo, you will know what I'm talking about. In the brazilian Vale Tudo, ANYTHING is allowed. ANYTHING. This is where the men are separated from the boys. Back in the day, this ring was dominated by two schools,
"Chute Boxe" and "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu". These two schools are the schools that pioneered the UFC, PrideFC, and other "No holds barred" fighting circuits. What was discovered is that to be an effective fighter you have to have certain specific skills rated in the order shown below:
1) Ground Fighting and Submission skills
2) CLOSE COMBAT clinch striking, and clinch grappling skills
3) Takedown skills
4) distance striking skills.
Basically it comes down to this:
And I want all of you mis-informed people to listen VERY closely:
95% OF ALL FIGHTS END UP IN CLOSE QUARTERS OR ON THE GROUND. If you don't know what to do when someone is on top of you on the ground, or in close grabbing you around the waist or neck, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIAT!
Another thing:
THERE IS NO "BEST" FIGHTING STYLE. There are only certain specific skills that you must master. I've already stated what those are above.
Now, there are certain styles of fighting that are BETTER than others at teaching those specific skills that you need to learn. These styles are:
For ground fighting:
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (No-Gi) and Wrestling.
When there is nothing to grab on to (no shirt, or jacket) BJJ is the most effective art on the ground PERIOD. Wrestling is the best standup takedown art PERIOD.
It's been proven over, and over, and over again in the ring.
When it comes to ground fighting when you DO have something to hold onto:
BJJ (GI) is the best ground fighting art PERIOD. Judo is the best takedown art PERIOD.
Now, I also must say that in supplement to this, you have to learn how to HIT people while on the ground, and in different ground positions such as side control, the mount, on the back, and the guard. To learn this, you simply have to take what is known as a "Mixed Martial Arts" class, or a "No Holds Barred" fighting class. You need to learn skills like "The ground and pound", and striking from side and the back.
Now when it comes to learning how to do clinch striking and close quarters combat, Muy-Thai takes the cake. There are other variants which teach the use of "illegal" moves which are also good (Illegal things like fishooking, scratching, biting, and clawing).
American Boxing is the best art to learn how to PUNCH, Muy-Thai is the best for everything else.
That simple. It's been tested over and over and over again by countless people. If you seriously think that your fighting style is better, then simply PROVE YOUR DAMN SELF. Go step into the Brazil Vale Tudo ring, and PROVE IT. Can't get to the brazil vale tudo? Next best thing is the Japanese Pride Fighting Championship. Chances are, your ass will be beaten severly by Wandelei Silva, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, or Fedor Emalienenko.
So essentially, if you want to be a complete bare hands fighter, you need to take skills from all of the following:
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Muy-Thai Kickboxing - both "legal" and "Illegal"
American Wrestling
Judo
American Boxing
Russian Sambo (not really necessary, essentially Judo)
MMA training
That's really all there is to it. Every single possible bare-hands scenario has been thought of and analyzed by the combination of these arts.
That's really all there is to it.
Now, if were talking weapons fighting, then things like
Kali FMA, US Army Knife and gun training, along with US police officer gun training will do the trick. There is also a form of Free-Fight from brazil that teaches you to use everyday objects as weapons. Another great art.
Guys, there really is no debate here. It's been documented down to a science, what the best fighting style is. And yes, this is arrogant, but if you disagree you're simply misinformed.
The best fighters in the world are CROSS TRAINERS. They don't use one art, they use ALL EFFECTIVE ARTS. (Note I said "effective". Bullshido like Kung-Fu and Tae-Kwon do is ignored).
I'm telling you this, because I get into this argument alot with people, and at soon as I show them a video from the Vale Tudo, and I say, "Can you deal with that" they shut up. Kung-Fu "Masters", Tae-Kwon do Dans, and all sorts of other poor-misinformed "Martials Arts" experts have tried their hand at the Vale Tudo. They all get their asses beat. Severly. It's f-king joke to watch it.
So if you REALLY want to learn how to fight, go to an MMA or NHB school and say,
"I want to cross train Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, Muy-Thai and Boxing".
And you'll learn how to fight.
Originally Posted by TTom
www.bullshido.net
Ashida Kim is an awful, awful man. Though you can buy a "certified" black belt from him, which is kinda' funny.
Bingo, this subject has been done over again, and again, and again. In fact, there's an entire FORUM dedicated to it! What was the conclusion? Exactly what I said!!
