What every skinny guy should know...

[pimpfromdayone]

I fully acknowledge all that you have said and you're right, but that wasn't the point I was making. All I said was that different people can look good in different ways. Why spend countless hours in the gym trying to squeeze out every last gram of muscle mass when you look perfectly fine with the athletic look and women like you already?
Who says your personality doesn't help initial attraction?
Both play an equal role in my opinion.
Fu-ck it, I am the skinny athletic type obviously, and I have an attractive face, so I guess what works for me isn't what works for you.
It is pointless to argue over this anyway....
I am all for self improvement, but the way you all talk about muscle making your dreams come true is just pure bullshi-t, because there are plenty of gym-rats out there who don't get women. If you have game and muscle, perfect, but if you only have game, you're still just as good.
I am just saying that being skinny should not be an excuse for not getting girls, because I am thinking that after reading this post, many guys will take it too seriously and USE it as an excuse.

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone

I am all for self improvement, but the way you all talk about muscle making your dreams come true is just pure bullshi-t, because there are plenty of gym-rats out there who don't get women. If you have game and muscle, perfect, but if you only have game, you're still just as good.

Yeah I agree with you. I have seen those "gym-rats" They have shyttiest personalities, walking like their shyt dont stink. They are the polar opposite to the AW. NO ONE wants to be around them.

But trust me, if anyone here has absorbed the knowledge and know-how on how to win women and friends; gaining lean mass while keeping the narcissism to a minimum. It will do wonders for your game.

So yeah, i guess we can reach a consensus that gaining mass tends to increase your overall attractiveness. And if you are big but are not getting any women, then its not your muscles, ITS YOU.

 

[FM 3321]

I have to say that this post applies to fat guys like me. I'm about 255lbs, 6' 0" and need to go down.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Ahh, don't worry 'bout it FM, just find a girl with low self-esteem who wants to date you so she looks skinnier... haha, I have known girls like this, seriously. Correct me if I'm wrong but you should have a hel-luva lot easier time than me gaining muscle because you have all that excess fat already.... skinny guys have to eat like motherfu-ckers if they want an OUNCE of gain.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
Muscles=overrated. So what if you turn the heads of a few shallow women? It takes a personality to get the best women. I am like 5% BF, no joke, and only 5'8" 130 lbs, and I have had women out of nowhere tell me I am hot, sexy, crap like that... granted I have a pretty nice face but still...
I'd say if you are the skinny, athletic type, like me, you are fine, no need to put on any more muscle.
Oh yeah, and whoever it was that said sumo wrestlers are healthy, they're not, they have heart attacks, they die young. Besides, it's much better to be thin than fat.

I don't think it has been mentioned, but I think everyone should keep their bodies in proportion. I have a small head, so am I gonna make it look even smaller by making my biceps and pecs twice as big as my head? I don't think so. It would look STUPID. And yes, short guys with huge amounts of muscle do look rather silly. Women say they want tall and thin, but that doesn't mean a short guy can't get them just as well. They want handsome, but how many ugly guys do you see with hot women? A lot. By all means, tone yourself up some, but don't focus all your energy on getting bigger. If you want women who only want you for your muscle, go for it, but as for me, I'd rather not.

Since when do small guys get seen as weak? The biggest man in the room is the guy who ACTS like the biggest man in the room. I have said this before, but go to the gym on valentine's day and you'll see a ton of super-muscular men in there, without dates. I wonder why...
I realize I am going to get flamed for this, so be it. This board is filled with a lot of bullsh-it, but that's how it is I guess. All I am saying is that some people just won't look right with a lot of muscle, and some people should in fact not even try.

Muscles are not needed to get hot chicks but you can't deny that they definitly help. A personality can only take you so far. Same thing with a muscular body.

As for short guys looking ridiculous with alot of muscle, the best bodybuilders of the last 25 years have been under 6'0. A small head is ideal for competitive bodybuilding.

If you don't workout how would you know if the gym is filled with muscular guys on Valentine's Day?

5'8 130 is ridiculously small, most girls weigh more than you. I suggest you hit the gym. Trust me you will look better. Saying you won't is just an excuse to not do it.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

No excuses offered here my friend. I have my own bench press even....
I wouldn't call it "ridiculously" small because technically, it is within the normal range for people of my height (factoring in small frame as well,), and there are plenty of men my size. I just have very little fat. I seriously am only around 5% BF, and I don't want to be like that.... I have actually tried just putting on FAT, but it is pretty much impossible for me, no matter what I do. Fu-ck it, I rep my own weight on the press, I can do 3 sets of 20 chinups, I curl 30lb/arm which is respectable and people I know much bigger than me do the same, and I leg press somewhere in the mid 200's, sooooo.... I just don't feel the need to continue working out.

Just because I don't work out REGULARLY, doesn't mean I haven't been to gyms in the past.

You're right though, most girls do weigh more than 130 these days... it's such a shame the population is getting fatter isn't it. You been through college yet? The shi-t really hits the fan for the women there doesn't it?

 

[Thejojo15]

I'm thinking about buying the program but i have a few doubts about it that some of you might clear up.

Measurement differents:
sinds i live in holland our Measurement of weight is in kilo's and not pounds and lengt is centimeters versus inches. I could just calculate everything to my known Measurement, i just wanna know how people with the same problem are dealing with this.


Product avalblilety:
Sinds there are a lot of products in the USA that i can not buy simply becus its not exported to my country i´d like to know how the program discribes this, does it state the exact brand you should buy or is it more lose and tells what you should look for when you buy a centain product.

And final
did anyone in europe/netherlands buy the program, and what sort of problems did you incounter?


If you have any suggestions/awnsers do tell

 

[Tazman]

5'8 130 is ridiculously small, most girls weigh more than you.

Ouch, that makes me feel even worse (5'5 120) and I'm muscular. I have made some respectable gains but my bones are really small so I can only add but so much weight anyway. However, it hasn't stopped me from getting positive attention from women so I don't think it's as important as I initially thought. Some women (giving IOI's) are even taller than me, I didn't used to think that was possible.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by Thejojo15
I'm thinking about buying the program but i have a few doubts about it that some of you might clear up.

Measurement differents:
sinds i live in holland our Measurement of weight is in kilo's and not pounds and lengt is centimeters versus inches. I could just calculate everything to my known Measurement, i just wanna know how people with the same problem are dealing with this.

It's very simple... simply do kg*2.2=lbs and Cm/2.54=inches and you'll get a pretty close value. I do it so often nowadays that it just comes automatically. It's even gone so far I measure in lbs too because it simplifies things.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
Muscles=overrated. So what if you turn the heads of a few shallow women? It takes a personality to get the best women. I am like 5% BF, no joke, and only 5'8" 130 lbs, and I have had women out of nowhere tell me I am hot, sexy, crap like that... granted I have a pretty nice face but still...
I'd say if you are the skinny, athletic type, like me, you are fine, no need to put on any more muscle.
Oh yeah, and whoever it was that said sumo wrestlers are healthy, they're not, they have heart attacks, they die young. Besides, it's much better to be thin than fat.

I don't think it has been mentioned, but I think everyone should keep their bodies in proportion. I have a small head, so am I gonna make it look even smaller by making my biceps and pecs twice as big as my head? I don't think so. It would look STUPID. And yes, short guys with huge amounts of muscle do look rather silly. Women say they want tall and thin, but that doesn't mean a short guy can't get them just as well. They want handsome, but how many ugly guys do you see with hot women? A lot. By all means, tone yourself up some, but don't focus all your energy on getting bigger. If you want women who only want you for your muscle, go for it, but as for me, I'd rather not.

Since when do small guys get seen as weak? The biggest man in the room is the guy who ACTS like the biggest man in the room. I have said this before, but go to the gym on valentine's day and you'll see a ton of super-muscular men in there, without dates. I wonder why...
I realize I am going to get flamed for this, so be it. This board is filled with a lot of bullsh-it, but that's how it is I guess. All I am saying is that some people just won't look right with a lot of muscle, and some people should in fact not even try.

That's complete BS. Having been both thin (132 @ 5'10") and a little bulked 176 @ 5'10") the difference is enormous. I went from hardly any dates/showing interest to being the center of attention. And my personality is almost the same. Muscles play a BIG part of attracting.

Small men most often look weak even if they compensate with attitude.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Originally posted by Lifeforce
That's complete BS. Having been both thin (132 @ 5'10") and a little bulked 176 @ 5'10") the difference is enormous. I went from hardly any dates/showing interest to being the center of attention. And my personality is almost the same. Muscles play a BIG part of attracting.

Small men most often look weak even if they compensate with attitude.

No, THAT'S complete BS. Buddy, you're not me ok.... and besides, everyone is different. If the only way you can get attention is by having muscles, then there is something wrong with you and you're STILL not going to be getting the quality women that someone like me is getting. You perhaps were not much to look at before you had muscles. If that was the case, good for you and your self-improvement. As for me, muscles wouldn't do that much. Muscles helps, and I never denied it, but it isn't the only way. I'm not going to post my fu-cking pic on the net for the sake of proving anything to you, but take it from me, I look good enough as it is, and for someone with a small frame such as myself, my muscles fill out my polo shirts pretty dam-n well.

I forgot who made the comment about me being "ridiculously" thin or whatever, but I just have to say to them that there are many people my size..... not so much today however because of the obesity epidemic we are having in this country.... 20 years ago, you can subtract oh, maybe 25 lbs+ from the weight of the "average" person, and then 130 won't look bad at all then. I am not concerned with womens' weights, but it doesn't matter to me that many women weigh what I do because I only like the smaller ones anyway so there, lol, it just doesn't matter. I don't feel bad that the average women has bigger thighs and hips than the average man.

Tazman, don't feel bad man, we're in the same kinda situation, and we both know it doesn't take a lot of muscle to get women. Small men only look weak to shallow and/or stupid women, which is exactly the ones I'd like to avoid. I accept the fact that I am small, but I have other features that get me women and I am not about to complain. Defending myself on the internet is probably the stupidest thing I have ever done, but there you have it. I just don't like to see people telling everyone there is only one way and trying to push their beliefs on everyone... it is pointless. I don't want people on this forum to use their lack of muscles as an excuse for not getting women. Finally, I am all for self-improvement, but if you start RELYING on muscles to get you women, you might get some, sure, but you probably will NOT get the quality women than the skinny guy with a personality got. Skinny STONERS get hot women! We don't need people on here telling everyone muscles make that big of a difference when they don't.

 

[Lifeforce]

Dude... if you haven't even bulked up then don't talk about it like you know anything about it. And besides just because you get more attention when you have muscles doesn't mean you didn't have a cool personality to begin with. With different size the words you say will fall in a different category.

Yeah I wasn't much to look at.. too skinny... girls didn't get a good chance at getting to know me because I was too skinny. Then again you live in a different part of the world than me. Most guys here are not overweight so it's harder competition based on looks.

Exuses and improvement doesn't cling well together... I see no problem at all relying on muscles to get women if you can do that. Combine muscles and a cool persoanlity and you can beat most guys out there.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

OK, I didn't notice you were from Sweden.... it might make a big difference. No, I'm not bulked, but over here, the "normal" athletic guys (some skinny) do really well with women, and I fit into that category. I'm didn't mean to sound defensive or anything, but for anyone mislead by what I was saying, please re-read my last paragraph there. Arguing is stupid though..... how are those Swedish chicks treatin' ya man? I need to get one sometime.

 

[wolfie]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
but you probably will NOT get the quality women than the skinny guy with a personality got. Skinny STONERS get hot women! We don't need people on here telling everyone muscles make that big of a difference when they don't.

and a muscular guy with personality will get more hot women than the skinny stoner with personality will too.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
OK, I didn't notice you were from Sweden.... it might make a big difference. No, I'm not bulked, but over here, the "normal" athletic guys (some skinny) do really well with women, and I fit into that category. I'm didn't mean to sound defensive or anything, but for anyone mislead by what I was saying, please re-read my last paragraph there. Arguing is stupid though..... how are those Swedish chicks treatin' ya man? I need to get one sometime.

Yeah I am sure you can get women no matter how you are looking (to some point). You need less game if you have muscles though. That's an experience I bet most people who bulk up can relate to.

I mean I got women when I was skinny too, but it was a ****load of work to get there, I was wasn't happy with having to have a verbal fencing match to get some action.

The swedish chicks are awesome in general... those from my city are the worst *****es I have come across though. Even ugly fatties reject people and expect to be treated like a queen. It's a joke really when you go to some places. But I've learnt when to pick up and when to just watch and enjoy the show.

Outside of my city in almost any other place women pick me up and are very friendly. I wonder why my city is the exception. Even going to the next city 50 kms away then the girls are much nicer. How are the girls in USA?

 

[cablecow15]

im 6,3 and 145 i know shocking
but for the last week ive been eating a pennut butter and banana sandwich every day and i
think i allready see results
(scince pb has protin)

 

[Lifeforce]

you work out also cc15? Or else you are going to gain just fat.

 

[AgonyUncle]

A fit, muscular body sends out primitive signals to women:

1) You are genetically strong, and will produce healthy young uns
2) You are strong enough to protect her
3) You are able to provide (being a hunter, not a ****ing metrosexual)
4) Creates a sense of dominace (Dominance is is a major attribute for any player)
5) High testosterone levels = fertility (Muscular bodies cannot come from low testosterone levels)
6) You not starving if you are built like a brick ****house. Clearly, you can provide for yourself at the very least

Alpha male is not some little metro with a mo hawk, Versace boxers with a ****y and funny attitude. Hes a dominant, healthy male who is going to protect her from the starving lions while feeding his 6 kids with ease.

Simply put, do you prefer an average girl with an average face, or an average girl with a body that could melt butter? Put on some size, and the initial attraction you never had before will give you all the opportunity to use your game.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by AgonyUncle
A fit, muscular body sends out primitive signals to women:

1) You are genetically strong, and will produce healthy young uns
2) You are strong enough to protect her
3) You are able to provide (being a hunter, not a ****ing metrosexual)
4) Creates a sense of dominace (Dominance is is a major attribute for any player)
5) High testosterone levels = fertility (Muscular bodies cannot come from low testosterone levels)
6) You not starving if you are built like a brick ****house. Clearly, you can provide for yourself at the very least

Alpha male is not some little metro with a mo hawk, Versace boxers with a ****y and funny attitude. Hes a dominant, healthy male who is going to protect her from the starving lions while feeding his 6 kids with ease.

Simply put, do you prefer an average girl with an average face, or an average girl with a body that could melt butter? Put on some size, and the initial attraction you never had before will give you all the opportunity to use your game.

Agreed... the difference is unbelievable.. people who say things will not be that different if they bulk up haven't tried it. The attention difference is humoungous... forget peacocking with a hat.. peacock with a huge ****ing biceps.

 

[sstype]

Originally posted by Lifeforce
Agreed... the difference is unbelievable.. people who say things will not be that different if they bulk up haven't tried it. The attention difference is humoungous... forget peacocking with a hat.. peacock with a huge ****ing biceps.

yeah good advice, it will do wonders for the initial attraction. Nonetheless, attitude is also just as important. Any guy, muscular or not, that has a mediocre outlook on women and life will have a hard time getting any women at all.