Heres a mexican stand off i'm starting to notice more and more in modern dating
Men in manosphere being advised to do cheap or free first dates... to avoid wasting resources on expensive dinner dates that probably won't lead anywhere
Women in womensphere being advised to screen against men who offer low value first dates - was researching a female dating forum yesterday called "female dating strategy" ,
the number 1 advice was screen out men who do this as they are likely to be low investing, narcissistic and just looking for sex and there was also a raft of other melodramatic reasons the women there were theorising
They were also labelling women who submiss too easily to men as "pick me women"
It was quite amusing , but also worrying as it's clear women are predicating their own dating strategies which are ironically directly opposite to men's
In my mind the ideal first date is a fun activity date where you can find out how one another handles certain situations and how you both gel in the real world
I'm not actually sure a lot of women are that keen on this idea though they seem to want an immediate romantic setting preferably with high level of investment
this was all the time the female strategy , to gain as much investment as possible from the man before sex is introduced .
yes , this is anti seductive to invest too much early on , but you still have to invest a bare minimum . Some chat here and there , etc
The only guys who can get away investing close to 0 , are the guys who the girl like a lot , mainly due to their fundamentals
the rest of guys have to invest something to get something back
acting like a super high SMV guy when you are very far away from that , it is as delusional as a fat ugly woman thinking she is a princess