What do you think about this chick?

[Bingo-Player]

Heres a mexican stand off i'm starting to notice more and more in modern dating

Men in manosphere being advised to do cheap or free first dates... to avoid wasting resources on expensive dinner dates that probably won't lead anywhere

Women in womensphere being advised to screen against men who offer low value first dates - was researching a female dating forum yesterday called "female dating strategy" ,

the number 1 advice was screen out men who do this as they are likely to be low investing, narcissistic and just looking for sex and there was also a raft of other melodramatic reasons the women there were theorising

They were also labelling women who submiss too easily to men as "pick me women"

It was quite amusing , but also worrying as it's clear women are predicating their own dating strategies which are ironically directly opposite to men's

In my mind the ideal first date is a fun activity date where you can find out how one another handles certain situations and how you both gel in the real world

I'm not actually sure a lot of women are that keen on this idea though they seem to want an immediate romantic setting preferably with high level of investment

 

[DonJuanjr]

I'm not actually sure a lot of women are that keen on this idea though they seem to want an immediate romantic setting preferably with high level of investment

So they can decide during the interaction that "there's no chemistry" and leave you with wasted money/time.

 

[BeExcellent]

Bingo makes a salient observation.

Here’s the real trouble. The best women (attractive young women from solid families and their act together) have been raised to expect a man to act like a gentleman. Yes even in this day and age.

If such a woman is attractive she is going to have good options to choose from at any given time. That means, all things being equal, and assuming her suitors are comparatively attractive relative to one another, that she is going to choose based on how she feels a man is treating her. A guy who has a fun personality and who offers her dinner is making more effort than a guy who wants a meet up at his place or her to join him for a drink near his. So well brought up women will choose (often but not always) the option she likes who is making an effort.

I do this too frankly.

This is how better quality women pick from among their options.

One of the pitfalls guys who subscribe to all the PUA theory stuff miss is that by refusing to ever make effort like going to dinner is that you’ll often eliminate the higher quality women from your pool. Leaving you with lesser women from a self esteem & character stand point.

Worth considering.

 

[Bingo-Player]

So they can decide during the interaction that "there's no chemistry" and leave you with wasted money/time.

Well that's the caveat a lot of men are no longer willing to risk

Hence the Mexican stand off

Ultimately i think " male / female online interaction " in whatever form you want to take it has just about run its course

The dynamic just doesn't work , women need to be able to feel the mans presence to know whether to take him seriously or not

Men need to be able to inspect the women's allure , interest and submissiveness to know whether to take her seriously or not

None of this can effectively be done through virtual / digital communication and even more worryingly it can often be misconstrued by both sexes

 

[Bigpapa]

Heres a mexican stand off i'm starting to notice more and more in modern dating

Men in manosphere being advised to do cheap or free first dates... to avoid wasting resources on expensive dinner dates that probably won't lead anywhere

Women in womensphere being advised to screen against men who offer low value first dates - was researching a female dating forum yesterday called "female dating strategy" ,

the number 1 advice was screen out men who do this as they are likely to be low investing, narcissistic and just looking for sex and there was also a raft of other melodramatic reasons the women there were theorising

They were also labelling women who submiss too easily to men as "pick me women"

It was quite amusing , but also worrying as it's clear women are predicating their own dating strategies which are ironically directly opposite to men's

In my mind the ideal first date is a fun activity date where you can find out how one another handles certain situations and how you both gel in the real world

I'm not actually sure a lot of women are that keen on this idea though they seem to want an immediate romantic setting preferably with high level of investment

this was all the time the female strategy , to gain as much investment as possible from the man before sex is introduced .

yes , this is anti seductive to invest too much early on , but you still have to invest a bare minimum . Some chat here and there , etc

The only guys who can get away investing close to 0 , are the guys who the girl like a lot , mainly due to their fundamentals

the rest of guys have to invest something to get something back

acting like a super high SMV guy when you are very far away from that , it is as delusional as a fat ugly woman thinking she is a princess

 

[DonJuanjr]

A guy who has a fun personality and who offers her dinner is making more effort than a guy who wants a meet up at his place or her to join him for a drink near his. So well brought up women will choose (often but not always) the option she likes who is making an effort.

How about a guy that has a fun personality that wants to meet up at his place or her to join him for a drink near his vs a guy with a bland personality that offers her a nice dinner?

 

[MatureDJ]

Texted a latina girl in IG, after a short convo proposed to meet. She is 7/8 - not a dime for me. Below is our conversation:

Me: Are you free tonight?
Her: Maybe. Where would you like to take me?
Me: There is one hipster pub close to center
Her: I can’t drink alcohol. I prefer somewhere more relax.
Me: Coffee?
Her: No. A restaurant where we don’t have that much noise
Me: I do not go on dinners on the first date
Her: I do. That’s what gentleman should do At least that’s what I am getting used to.
Me: So you define if the guy is a gentleman if he brings to you to a fancy place?
Her: Who says it has to be fancy. I define a gentleman a man who takes his time to take me somewhere. A coffee is something I can do anytime
Me: Too bad. Cause I love coffee meeting that people can do anytime
Her: Enjoy your coffee then

I do consider her as a typical chick who is looking for guy. So no reply from my side.

What do you think?

I think I see why she wants to go to dinner; she looks like she doesn't miss too many meals.

 

[MatureDJ]

She'll be a fatty in a few years.

In a few years?

 

[biggoal]

If that chick is ugly I'm the president of the United States.

I'd ljke her 10lbs lighter, but yea shes hot. I hardly seen any real profiles with girls as hot as this on old around here. If someone doesnt think this girl is hot then they're gay or something!

 

[B80]

I'd ljke her 10lbs lighter, but yea shes hot. I hardly seen any real profiles with girls as hot as this on old around here. If someone doesnt think this girl is hot then they're gay or something!

looks more attractive to me that the toilet licker girl in the other thread.

can tell they're both idiots though.

 

[EyeBRollin]

OP, you probably can’t afford this girl. She’s a HB 7/8 Latina meaning her other options are men with money that are tricking on her. She had low interest. Your only shot with her was to spend the money and be her backup date.

(You played this correctly. But stop arguing with a woman once she tells you what she won’t do. Just say ok and delete her).

 

[powersize]

OP, you probably can’t afford this girl. She’s a HB 7/8 Latina meaning her other options are men with money that are tricking on her. She had low interest. Your only shot with her was to spend the money and be her backup date.

(You played this correctly. But stop arguing with a woman once she tells you what she won’t do. Just say ok and delete her).

Havent tried to argue with her. Just wanted to check what she is about with her “rules”. But I agree - no reason to talk with her after that.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Modern women move like escorts,

Where would you like to take me?.....I wouldnt have responded back.

A decent girl dosent move like this

 

[DonJuanjr]

How about a guy that has a fun personality that wants to meet up at his place or her to join him for a drink near his vs a guy with a bland personality that offers her a nice dinner?

@BeExcellent you mind giving your thoughts on this?