What do you make of this?

[Xman]

It sounds like you were playing your cards okay and to be honest there is no magic combination or line to say. You already know what to do. Just ask her out another day while you keep adding a few new lines in the water waiting for one to bite.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Need to sexualize before the date and kino during it.

The apparent enthusiasm at the end of the date could've been bait to see if you invite her out for a night on the town (dinner, theater, event, museum, etc).

 

[nzrod]

And how do you stack up in comparison?

She wants her best option, and all of these things make her the pinnacle of "desirable" in her head.

Im am an amateur body builder, look young for my age, great professional job, healthy living and millionaire.

 

[nzrod]

First of all coming here and looking for answers is not ideal....

You did not really do anything plainly wrong, just that you had 3 consecutive strikes and she sent you off

Thanks mate. Appreciated. Why is a walk in the park a rookie move? It is physical and there are lots of areas with people around and also some quieter romantic areas that would be perfect if things escalated (Im talking to level 1, not all the way of course!). Sitting in a cafe isnt exciting, romantic or physical in any way.

 

[Gamisch]

She was never interested in the first place. Just accept that fact and move on.


You CAN'T be 52 and not be aware of a woman displaying lukewarm interest at best. You can project your own beliefs and fantasies about her or women in general all you want, it won ever change REALITY.

Thanks mate. Appreciated. Why is a walk in the park a rookie move? It is physical and there are lots of areas with people around and also some quieter romantic areas that would be perfect if things escalated (Im talking to level 1, not all the way of course!). Sitting in a cafe isnt exciting, romantic or physical in any way.

Because they are not us.

Of You rally area millionaire why didn't you "just" took her out for dinner te good place?

That's what women want. To be wined and dined. So again ,rookie mistake.

More men must accept that women actually don't like us..that much...unless you provide SIGNIFICANT value .

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi N.Z.Rod,
Taiyuu has it right when he says," It's easy to misunderstand politeness for attraction."......Kiwi Women are extremely polite,just like the Provincial English Woman,but as with their British Sisters the Academics are a cold,self serving breed,a culture vulture and unmarried Mother to boot!....You drew a full on mysere hand!

 

[Bigpapa]

Thanks mate. Appreciated. Why is a walk in the park a rookie move? It is physical and there are lots of areas with people around and also some quieter romantic areas that would be perfect if things escalated (Im talking to level 1, not all the way of course!). Sitting in a cafe isnt exciting, romantic or physical in any way.

from a woman perspective it is looked as no effort and cheap

 

[pipeman84]

from a woman gold-digger perspective it is looked as no effort and cheap

There, I fixed the misspelling.
I like seeing teen couples strolling through the park or sitting on a bench, sometimes for hours. That's what enjoying being in each-other presence and love is all about.
You can't buy genuine attraction and it's foolish to spend money on a woman you just met as if she was your wife.

 

[Bigpapa]

There, I fixed the misspelling.
I like seeing teen couples strolling through the park or sitting on a bench, sometimes for hours. That's what enjoying being in each-other presence and love is all about.
You can't buy genuine attraction and it's foolish to spend money on a woman you just met as if she was your wife.

Yes, teens

It is a big difference between teens and adults

Mainly because teens do not really have money at all so if they want to hang out they need to find a place where it does not cost them
Anything to hang out

 

[obelisk]

So he should have asked her to dinner as their first meetup vs a coffee date?

 

[Bigpapa]

So he should have asked her to dinner as their first meetup vs a coffee date?

It depends on how hooked the girl is

If she is hooked you can grab a drink at a fancy bar and do the moves in order to bring her home

If she is not that hooked or you did not really talked that much, a coffee date is great idea. A good cafe has a very Parisian vibe which means that basically you sit next to each other and you can escalate easily

The worst possible idea for a first date is going to a park ( especially if you are post university ), as it either puts the idea that you do not really care to put an act or that you are clueless. Also for a woman is strange going out with a guy, as she wants to get to know him, look at him, etc . This is difficult to do if you walk in the park and sit side by side. Plus you ask a lot of effort from her end, to walk through the park. Why she should put a lot of effort for some guy that she does not know and is not in some sort of relationship with?

 

[obelisk]

Thanks you both. Clarifies things for me.

 

[Gamisch]

It depends on how hooked the girl is

If she is hooked you can grab a drink at a fancy bar and do the moves in order to bring her home

If she is not that hooked or you did not really talked that much, a coffee date is great idea. A good cafe has a very Parisian vibe which means that basically you sit next to each other and you can escalate easily

The worst possible idea for a first date is going to a park ( especially if you are post university ), as it either puts the idea that you do not really care to put an act or that you are clueless. Also for a woman is strange going out with a guy, as she wants to get to know him, look at him, etc . This is difficult to do if you walk in the park and sit side by side. Plus you ask a lot of effort from her end, to walk through the park. Why she should put a lot of effort for some guy that she does not know and is not in some sort of relationship with?

This.

Add to that the fact that women (like the OP described) can and will date with abundance.

Lets just say that even cheap ol' Gamisch is willing to spend 20 bucks on a woman at any given moment...20/25 bucks =4/6 drinks IF you're smart about it.

The walk in the park can be done AFTER you pulled the fish into the net.

 

[Bigpapa]

This.

Add to that the fact that women (like the OP described) can and will date with abundance.

Lets just say that even cheap ol' Gamisch is willing to spend 20 bucks on a woman at any given moment...20/25 bucks =4/6 drinks IF you're smart about it.

The walk in the park can be done AFTER you pulled the fish into the net.

Yeah, exactly you can go to the park after if you really want to or just go somewhere else

If you do not have 100-200 euros per month to spend with women, this means that you have bigger problems than women

 

[Stoic]

Quick thoughts

great job in asking her out.

it usually is a good idea to flirt leading up to the date and then adding physical touch during the date. Coffee date can be hard to make that happen. You don’t need to be a horn dog but she needs to at least see you as a masculine, sexualized creature.

next, no double texting. Her phone wasn’t broken. She just wasn’t that interested. My guess is that you came off as too wanting on the date. Pursue multiple prospects at once and you won’t give off any needy vibe.. A woman should be in the peripheral and not out central interest.

you are an in shape millionaire. You’ve got some value in the sexual marketplace. Now just develop the game by pursuing multiple prospects and spinning plates.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Amsterdam,
"And you ask her out on a coffee date?",Not telling Granny how to suck eggs,but that's how self made Millionaires get that way.

 

[Bigpapa]

The thing is, there's nothing wrong with having an espresso, but not many men can sexually escalate during a coffee date.

If you're a skilled conversationalist, you can arouse the slvt in any woman, but you cannot reach congruency in a forced way, you have to live and breathe sexuality in a way that makes her see you as a conquest, not the other way around.

You claim to be a player, but the nonsense you write begs to disagree with what you flex

If the girl does not sense that you are sexually interested in her she will bail out. This thing with she has to see you as a conquest is one of the worst thing you can advise someone because women will assume that you are not into her and you will only have blue balls

Same thing with being a skilled conversationalist. Just talking with women dries their vagina. Women give no f8cks about your conversional skills, you are not their shrink and they do not really have anything interesting to say in the vast majority of cases

Take your garbage somewhere else bro

Guys who admit that they have no idea what they are doing are way more respectable, than guys who want to flex on how amazing they are but in reality are just as clueless

 

[Bigpapa]

Then why are you even here?

Let me ask you one thing from another perspective

Why would you come here and ask opinions if you think that everyone here is a loser?

On one hand when you ask someone for their input because you assume that they are better than you, on the other hand when you do not agree with something you assume that everyone is a loser

Also, why would a guy that is extremely rich not have problems with women? Bill gates, the Amazon guy are all known to be very bad in terms of women ( unless they do not go to prostitutes ). More does not mean that also other things scale at the space

Which one is it?

 

[Bigpapa]

Self-validation. Putting yourself on a pedestal to make others qualify themselves to you.

He doesn't want help; it's not what he came here for.

Compared to most guys here, he seems genuine ( at least for now )

Give him the benefit of doubt for the time being

You know, the best way to evolve ( scientifically proven ) is a Tit for Tat strategy. If you are too aggressive nothing will grow around you, and if you are soft everyone will take advantage of you

 

[pipeman84]

A good cafe has a very Parisian vibe which means that basically you sit next to each other and you can escalate easily

escalation (meaning kissing and sexual touch) in a public place such as bar/cafe - not many women would feel comfortable with that, I as a man am not.

The worst possible idea for a first date is going to a park ( especially if you are post university ), as it either puts the idea that you do not really care to put an act or that you are clueless.

the alternative view is that you're authentic and fully secure in your masculinity so you don't act to impress.

Also for a woman is strange going out with a guy, as she wants to get to know him, look at him, etc . This is difficult to do if you walk in the park and sit side by side.

As a guy I also want to get a good look at her entire body, how she moves etc and that's better accomplished walking in broad daylight as opposed to siting in semi darkness in a bar/cafe. There's also the option to sit on a bench, which is just like in the cafe setting, but with more privacy.

Plus you ask a lot of effort from her end, to walk through the park. Why she should put a lot of effort for some guy that she does not know and is not in some sort of relationship with?

LOL at the bolded part. There's even a saying in the English language, 'it's a walk in the park' to refer to something that's easily accomplished.