What attracts crazy?

[The Duke]

If you are a guy that has attracted your fair share of crazy girls.......what is it in you that attracts them?

I consider myself a very stable person that is good at keeping my emotions in check. I'm not needy, codependent or anything along those lines. I don't put up with with their bs very long once it starts. I'm pretty tuned into the relationship and pick up on changes quickly. Highly rational. Definitely not Mr. Super Alpha but far from beta.

I do like nice looking women! Thats definitely a weakness. lol. I love the challenge of seducing women and the power you feel once you do. One of my 5 love languages is words of affirmation and the crazy girls are good at telling you exactly what you want to hear. Charming/Flattering women definitely real me in.

I sit here and wonder if its me sometimes. If so I'd like to correct it. Not sure how to go about it.

I do feel that mental illness is a bigger issue than most think. Its far more prevalent/common than 3-4% of the population. Most have never been diagnosed.

 

[Ranger]

That’s an easy one. You are presenting yourself as an epic male but she sniffs out that you are not and she wants to show how powerful she is and goes about proving it to you.

In her mind? “I can master or wreck any man if I choose to. I will prove that you are just a cuck.”

Some women know you are a cuck the second you commit anything to them. It’s in your vibe and can’t be hidden. She will ride along with you because you might lead her to more worthy men. Completely self interest.

 

[RickTheToad]

Seems these days, the crazy one's put on an act to appear normal. They aren't. I go by default to them all being crazy. Traditional ladies, religious ladies, conservative ladies, liberal ladies.. All crazy by default.

 

[Von]

If you are a guy that has attracted your fair share of crazy girls.......what is it in you that attracts them?

I consider myself a very stable person that is good at keeping my emotions in check. I'm not needy, codependent or anything along those lines. I don't put up with with their bs very long once it starts. I'm pretty tuned into the relationship and pick up on changes quickly. Highly rational. Definitely not Mr. Super Alpha but far from beta.

I do like nice looking women! Thats definitely a weakness. lol. I love the challenge of seducing women and the power you feel once you do. One of my 5 love languages is words of affirmation and the crazy girls are good at telling you exactly what you want to hear. Charming/Flattering women definitely real me in.

I sit here and wonder if its me sometimes. If so I'd like to correct it. Not sure how to go about it.

I do feel that mental illness is a bigger issue than most think. Its far more prevalent/common than 3-4% of the population. Most have never been diagnosed.

I find the girls you attract actually mirrors you.

Girls have 6th senses for psychological and social cues....

There is what you portray and there is what you are.... sometimes they don't match.... called unbalanced?

There are different levels of balance... when I came here I swung to both extremes of ''insecurity-confidence''... and didn't know myself.. Guess that killed alot of attractions from girl or my chances.

Now, I am more balance and hold myself stronger but still attract certain type of women except they ''better'' (also more in control of their issues etc.)

Girls are mirror of you... since you show them something, they look at themselve and say ''hey that's for me'' or ''not''.

The hardest work is solving your own issues.... blaming is easy.

DJ Bible is all about improving yourself and show a better portray.... the rest is in your head, in your heart.

Like the seduction game... 2 stages:
1) Getting the Girl
2) Keeping the Girl

They are 2 different games, which requires different approach and skills but really on common fundamentals.

What you want in girl? Be the guy for that!

 

[sangheilios]

I wouldn't necessarily consider these women crazy, but I have had a trend going for a very long time where women in relationships, many of which were live in, actively pursue me and ask me out. I actually had a time, from late 2016 through the spring of this year, where literally every woman I met or by chance was around was like this.

I knew who they were so I had seen their social media and knew what the bfs looked like and all that. What used to get me was how they'd post on there about how such an amazing couple they were and how much they loved the guys. Outwardly you'd look at them and not think anything of it. A few times I'd get "I'm not up to anything later, what are you doing tonight?" to get baited into making a move but then get a reminder that they were seeing someone.

It is an interesting thought to try to understand why I kept attracting this into my life, yet despite that it did become very frustrating over time. It would literally go from one girl to the next being the exact same way.

 

[MountainSlide]

One thing that attracts crazy’s: inability to detect red flags or willingness to overlook them in order to get sex. Most women that are crazy’s use sex to lure in victims for them to emotionally torment. Guys that are the most emotionally held back are usually that way because they’re afraid of being hurt and are protecting themselves it’s actually an implicit sign of weakness. The crazy knows that once she cracks through that shield, she has free reign.

 

[sangheilios]

One thing that attracts crazy’s: inability to detect red flags or willingness to overlook them in order to get sex. Most women that are crazy’s use sex to lure in victims for them to emotionally torment. Guys that are the most emotionally held back are usually that way because they’re afraid of being hurt and are protecting themselves it’s actually an implicit sign of weakness. The crazy knows that once she cracks through that shield, she has free reign.

I don't think they do that consciously, trying to hurt the man intentionally, but they definitely do use sex to get what they want from the guy, whatever that might be. You are right though, from what I've seen and experienced is that overlooking clear signs the girl is off and coming up with rationalization of said female's behavior always resulted in something like this. If you see red flags early on it's best to walk away before you develop any sort of emotional attachment to that person, because once you get to that point it becomes far more difficult to cut that person from your life.

I always say to look at a woman's social media to get an idea as to what she is like, obviously this only applies to younger women.

 

[darksprezzatura]

Crazy attracts crazy

 

[btownbuck2012]

I do feel that mental illness is a bigger issue than most think. Its far more prevalent/common than 3-4% of the population. Most have never been diagnosed.

I absolutely agree with this. I am almost confident that 15-20% is a more accurate number.

 

[Billtx49]

Most have never been diagnosed.

Yes. If the disorder is in their personality they rarely ever think anything’s wrong with them, unless they start getting some serious pushback from others or start developing a history of failed relationships and stop blaming it solely on the men involved and seek therapy for it…

 

[Bible_Belt]

I have read that BPDs usually end up with narcissists. That doesn't apply to me, though, because I am much better than that.

 

[ohrein]

Here are the two things I was doing wrong in this respect. Number one is too alpha. If you're too aloof, too mean, too cool, you're going to put off emotionally healthy women. I think some of you disagree with this but over my fifteen years of learning game, this is undeniable fact to me. If you read the literature on BPD and avoidants, their issues stem from their parents not providing nor demonstrating stable relationships to them. We also know people tend to be attracted to comfortable situations and that is also often what their parents were like. So you have these people who have no idea how to be in an emotionally stable relationship with someone, who are attracted to people who will not give them an emotionally stable relationship. Every single woman I was involved with when I was "hardcore alpha brahhh" was damaged emotionally by ****ty parents.

Number two is screening. I didn't really care if women had red flags as long as I was getting laid. As I got closer to 30 and got tired of the sarging, I started really thinking about this problem and a lot of the guys on these forums helped me reach the conclusions I did, and often had the same conclusion already. If you want an emotionally stable woman, you have to screen for it. That said, women are almost universally higher in neuroticism (big 5 personality traits) so they will always be more "crazy" than you. But you need to be more emotionally available and start being really picky with the women you invest in.

Of course, if all you care about is sarging then accept that you'll bang a bunch of crazies. That's part of the fun anyway, right? Some pretty wild sex to be had. Ultimately, that's not really enough at some point.

 

[wifehunter]

weak frames attract crazies.

 

[btownbuck2012]

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YOU qttract crazy. You attract what you are. You think a high value alpha male will want to be with a crazy. Lmao.

completely disagree with this

 

[Bible_Belt]

YOU qttract crazy. You attract what you are. You think a high value alpha male will want to be with a crazy. Lmao.

It depends on priorities. Crazy people are good in bed.

 

[The Duke]

Here are the two things I was doing wrong in this respect. Number one is too alpha. If you're too aloof, too mean, too cool, you're going to put off emotionally healthy women. I think some of you disagree with this but over my fifteen years of learning game, this is undeniable fact to me. If you read the literature on BPD and avoidants, their issues stem from their parents not providing nor demonstrating stable relationships to them. We also know people tend to be attracted to comfortable situations and that is also often what their parents were like. So you have these people who have no idea how to be in an emotionally stable relationship with someone, who are attracted to people who will not give them an emotionally stable relationship. Every single woman I was involved with when I was "hardcore alpha brahhh" was damaged emotionally by ****ty parents.

Number two is screening. I didn't really care if women had red flags as long as I was getting laid. As I got closer to 30 and got tired of the sarging, I started really thinking about this problem and a lot of the guys on these forums helped me reach the conclusions I did, and often had the same conclusion already. If you want an emotionally stable woman, you have to screen for it. That said, women are almost universally higher in neuroticism (big 5 personality traits) so they will always be more "crazy" than you. But you need to be more emotionally available and start being really picky with the women you invest in.

Of course, if all you care about is sarging then accept that you'll bang a bunch of crazies. That's part of the fun anyway, right? Some pretty wild sex to be had. Ultimately, that's not really enough at some point.

There was a time period in my life where I went thru a lot of girls and all I cared about was if she looked good and was a good time. I didn't want much depth and it was out of fear of taking away my independence and being hurt. I was "dismissive avoidant" at the time and was aloof, emotionally unavailable to some extent, didn't share feelings, dihk half the time, didn't worry about their feelings much, selfish, etc) and I attracted the craziest girls during this period. A lot of my behavior led them to act a crazy I am sure. lol. I know i caused most of them plenty of anxiety and that brought out the crazy several times.

 

[ohrein]

There was a time period in my life where I went thru a lot of girls and all I cared about was if she looked good and was a good time. I didn't want much depth and it was out of fear of taking away my independence and being hurt. I was "dismissive avoidant" at the time and was aloof, emotionally unavailable to some extent, didn't share feelings, dihk half the time, didn't worry about their feelings much, selfish, etc) and I attracted the craziest girls during this period. A lot of my behavior led them to act a crazy I am sure. lol. I know i caused most of them plenty of anxiety and that brought out the crazy several times.

I'm yet to hear evidence to the contrary. Not saying it can't happen, but I've not heard of it. Most of my beta friends end up with higher quality women than my alpha friends. The problem is they end up having relationship issues later on. But the psycho girls stay well away from beta guys, on average. If you can do as Rollo suggests and blend both, you'll be golden.

 

[Ranger]

Yes. If the disorder is in their personality they rarely ever think anything’s wrong with them, unless they start getting some serious pushback from others or start developing a history of failed relationships and stop blaming the men for it…

I'm yet to hear evidence to the contrary. Not saying it can't happen, but I've not heard of it. Most of my beta friends end up with higher quality women than my alpha friends. The problem is they end up having relationship issues later on. But the psycho girls stay well away from beta guys, on average. If you can do as Rollo suggests and blend both, you'll be golden.

yeah this is an interesting concept @ohrein.
The fact that the betas end up with higher quality girls. And the psycho girls stay away from them.

 

[ohrein]

yeah this is an interesting concept @ohrein.
The fact that the betas end up with higher quality girls. And the psycho girls stay away from them.

It seems to be true on average if I think over the hundreds of couples I've known in my life. Not saying I am right but I think I am. If I was to rank the "health" of relationships I've observed I'd say

1. Great guy (alpha & beta) - Super devoted and high quality partners. They seem to adore AND respect them.
2. Betas - Higher quality women both young and old, looking for love. Partners often love them but sometimes have "issues" likely stemming from being too nice.
3. Alphas - Very rarely end up in LTR's, often end up with psycho women who cause all sorts of drama. I don't believe I've ever met a purely alpha guy who was in a healthy relationship with a quality woman. I know some guys who lean more towards alpha over the "great guys" who have some success, but the ones who are pure blood, nope.

In addition to number 3, I personally know the women I attracted by giving zero fvcks and treating poorly were all broken and damaged because I talked to them about it. None of them were relationship material.

 

[Ranger]

I’m no longer sold on the idea of “Alpha”. I prefer the word masculine and embodying masculine traits. Those are two very different concepts.