What are your boundaries with a FWB?

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So you meet a girl, she is attractive and the sex is through the roof.

However too many red flags & likely no Long term compatibility (single mom)

Where do you guys draw the line, in relation to keeping her in the FWB zone?

01. Would you let her sleep over?

02. Would you chill and watch movies with her?

03. Would you take her out for drinks?

04. Would you take a naughty holiday abroad with her?

I ask these questions, as I see how many guys meet a chick who isn't LTR worthy, however they end up falling for her, due to doing girlfriend activities (Guilty of this myself)
 

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Single moms are the most persuasive and seductive entity in the universe.

They have millions of years of evolutionarily programmed techniques that will cause you to fall for her and become the replacement daddy.

She'll never know she's doing it, but the more time you spend with her, the more her wily ways to trap you in the inescapable trap of doom.

You'll fall for her, emotions will get involved, and while you may indeed eventually escape, you'll end up posting thread after thread about how your single mom is "different" and she's just got some unique traits that others can't see.

She will take a toll on you and your psyche far greater than you can imagine.

It's already too late.

You should be asking the infinitely wise and experienced members of SoSuave what kind of wedding ring you should buy her.
 

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@soulforge why is this a difficult question for you to answer?

Just do whatever you want to do with her while still seeing other girls.

The key takeaway there is WHILE STILL SEEING OTHER GIRLS.

If it comes to the point where you feel she's pressuring you into a relationship, decide at that point what you really want. Just don't assume that's what she's doing until you're sure - I have a dumba** friend that pressured HIMSELF into a relationship because he "feels like that's what she wants".
 

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So you meet a girl, she is attractive and the sex is through the roof.

However too many red flags & likely no Long term compatibility (single mom)

Where do you guys draw the line, in relation to keeping her in the FWB zone?

01. Would you let her sleep over?

02. Would you chill and watch movies with her?

03. Would you take her out for drinks?

04. Would you take a naughty holiday abroad with her?

I ask these questions, as I see how many guys meet a chick who isn't LTR worthy, however they end up falling for her, due to doing girlfriend activities (Guilty of this myself)
Treat a woman like a girlfriend and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you want to keep a woman strictly as a FWB, you don't let her do GF things. No weekend adventures together, dinner nights just the two of you, etc. You are friendly in groups and you meet up 1 on 1 for sex only. And she (or you) don't stay over the entire next day banging and watching Netflix on your couch. You get out or get her out fast.

This is all easy to say and hard to put into practice sometimes. Especially if you're having great sex. The tendency will be to linger with her at different places. But if you want to maintain FWB - you have to have discipline with it.
 

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Why do I get the sense there is MORE to this story? Why do I get the sense OP is already doing most or all the things he is asking about?

Look guys. We love (or come to love) what/who we invest in. So your feelings will follow your investment.

So the more you invest, the more you'll care.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Why do I get the sense there is MORE to this story? Why do I get the sense OP is already doing most or all the things he is asking about?

Look guys. We love (or come to love) what/who we invest in. So your feelings will follow your investment.

So the more you invest, the more you'll care.
Beat me to it… nature doesn’t follow anyone’s rules but its own
 

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Why do I get the sense there is MORE to this story? Why do I get the sense OP is already doing most or all the things he is asking about?

Look guys. We love (or come to love) what/who we invest in. So your feelings will follow your investment.

So the more you invest, the more you'll care.
This is probably the same girl who gave him the ultimatum that if he didn’t change his texting habits and respond faster, she’d take a step back.

 

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So you meet a girl, she is attractive and the sex is through the roof.
Does she treat you right?

Where do you guys draw the line, in relation to keeping her in the FWB zone?
There is no line to be drawn, drawing a line means you want her to aubmit to you because you want her for something more. If that's not what you want, then the arrangement should be fun, fun, fun and no commitment. You fvck other women and she can do whatever.

01. Would you let her sleep over?
Of course, I like to cuddle and and fvck before going for work in the mornings, don't you?

02. Would you chill and watch movies with her?
Of course, I like to have her svcking my c0ck during the movie, don't you?

03. Would you take her out for drinks?
Of course, I enjoy a good company while doing something fun when drinks are involve and then later at night having her moaning in the comfort of my bedroom while being drunk and high on pot, don't you?

04. Would you take a naughty holiday abroad with her?
Fvck yes, I like to enjoy happy moments with somebody I like, and then fvcking her good after all those experiences, don't you?

Live a little brother, we only have one life, there is no magic mushroom that gives you extra life like Super Mario.


Single moms are the most persuasive and seductive entity in the universe.
They have millions of years of evolutionarily programmed techniques that will cause you to fall for her and become the replacement daddy.

She'll never know she's doing it, but the more time you spend with her, the more her wily ways to trap you in the inescapable trap of doom.

You'll fall for her, emotions will get involved, and while you may indeed eventually escape, you'll end up posting thread after thread about how your single mom is "different" and she's just got some unique traits that others can't see.
Did that thing happened to you? Did a 130 lbs woman traumatized you poor baby? A woman comes to your life, to teach you things about yourself.

She will take a toll on you and your psyche far greater than you can imagine.

It's already too late.

You should be asking the infinitely wise and experienced members of SoSuave what kind of wedding ring you should buy her.
If you already know all of that, why are you then falling for them? I know why, cause your frame is $hit and you are a spineless guy.

@soulforge why is this a difficult question for you to answer?

Just do whatever you want to do with her while still seeing other girls.

The key takeaway there is WHILE STILL SEEING OTHER GIRLS.

If it comes to the point where you feel she's pressuring you into a relationship, decide at that point what you really want. Just don't assume that's what she's doing until you're sure - I have a dumba** friend that pressured HIMSELF into a relationship because he "feels like that's what she wants".
Nailed it.

Treat a woman like a girlfriend and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
What happens if I treat all my plates like that? Would I have multiple girlfriends? Hahaha some men are just clueless.

No weekend adventures together, dinner nights just the two of you, etc. You are friendly in groups and you meet up 1 on 1 for sex only. And she (or you) don't stay over the entire next day banging and watching Netflix on your couch.
Wait, are you the 2nd coming of Christ and that's why you are making all those rules?

Why do I get the sense there is MORE to this story? Why do I get the sense OP is already doing most or all the things he is asking about?

Look guys. We love (or come to love) what/who we invest in. So your feelings will follow your investment.

So the more you invest, the more you'll care.
Is that a bad thing? why? Cause if you tell me since you were a single mother before, to have men use for sex only, then there are some self love that you need work on, honey.

Beat me to it… nature doesn’t follow anyone’s rules but its own
Men's nature is to fvck multiple women and to reproduce indefinitely , not to fall in love, that's what guys who fallow their emotions do.
 
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Single moms are the most persuasive and seductive entity in the universe.

They have millions of years of evolutionarily programmed techniques that will cause you to fall for her and become the replacement daddy.

She'll never know she's doing it, but the more time you spend with her, the more her wily ways to trap you in the inescapable trap of doom.

You'll fall for her, emotions will get involved, and while you may indeed eventually escape, you'll end up posting thread after thread about how your single mom is "different" and she's just got some unique traits that others can't see.

She will take a toll on you and your psyche far greater than you can imagine.

It's already too late.

You should be asking the infinitely wise and experienced members of SoSuave what kind of wedding ring you should buy her.

I totally agree with this.

Single moms are actually super Addictive.

They tend to be extremely promiscuous in most cases.. Considering they get pumped and dumped alot, they have mastered the art of ****in.

Not only that, they are nuturing, often good cooks and.. and in most cases they are desperate for a man (meal ticket provider - step daddy) therefore they will test you like a king!

Essentially they are a trap!
 

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At some stage you will need to face yourself and ask why you keep engaging with low quality women such as this

No man after about 35 should be that desperate for sex he's entertaining damaged women for the sole purpose of it

its just like a perpetual cycle of toxic behaviour for both of you

I think part of maturing is people kind of admitting " I know this person isn't good for my life regardless of whatever benefit I am getting they need to go "

last year I had a club promoter mate , guy was out of his mind but there was a constant stream of chicks , drugs and free club entries / drinks

the guy would call me every day of the week to go to some sort of event and often I would find myself tagging along to stuff for the sake of it

Eventually It all became empty It was pointless and I was paying a massive price in lost time and energy

I just stopped answering his calls and texts
 

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So you meet a girl, she is attractive and the sex is through the roof.

However too many red flags & likely no Long term compatibility (single mom)

Where do you guys draw the line, in relation to keeping her in the FWB zone?

01. Would you let her sleep over?

02. Would you chill and watch movies with her?

03. Would you take her out for drinks?

04. Would you take a naughty holiday abroad with her?

I ask these questions, as I see how many guys meet a chick who isn't LTR worthy, however they end up falling for her, due to doing girlfriend activities (Guilty of this myself)
I'd let her sleep over, but she needs to be gone first thing in the morning. Its best to go to their place.

Most of my dating activities would be centered around fun times and sex. Watching movies is too personal.

Taking her out to drinks isn't a problem. Keep the convo fun and light. Get buzzed. Go to her place and fuhk.

Definitely, no trips together.

There has to be a time in a man's life when he changes his ways and stay away from these girls. It always ends the same.
 

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Does she treat you right?

Is that a bad thing? why? Cause if you tell me since you were a single mother before, to have men use for sex only, then there are some self love that you need work on, honey.
Lol. Always been an LTR girl @New_Journey and I have never been "pumped & dumped". In fact, all but once I have been the one to end things in the LTRs....except first relationship/ 2 year LTR in college who I lost virginity to at 20. I was young, naieve, clueless about dating, but I was beautiful so I had abundance in spades, thankfully I had high quality women who educated me....I was never a "single mother". Got married, had 3 children with first husband.....eventually got divorced after 20 years together. My story is elsewhere, so no. no self esteem problems here darlin.

Men still try and chat me up. Husband gets amused by that All. The. Time.

OP seems not to want to overly care for this girl. Unless a man has psychopathic tendencies (meaning he dehumanizes and uses other people, namely women), then it is normal for feelings to follow investment. He's been around here long enough to already know all this.

Perhaps he has "grass is greener" syndrome. Only he can say for sure.
 

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Does she treat you right?


There is no line to be drawn, drawing a line means you want her to aubmit to you because you want her for something more. If that's not what you want, then the arrangement should be fun, fun, fun and no commitment. You fvck other women and she can do whatever.


Of course, I like to cuddle and and fvck before going for work in the mornings, don't you?


Of course, I like to have her svcking my c0ck during the movie, don't you?


Of course, I enjoy a good company while doing something fun when drinks are involve and then later at night having her moaning in the comfort of my bedroom while being drunk and high on pot, don't you?


Fvck yes, I like to enjoy happy moments with somebody I like, and then fvcking her good after all those experiences, don't you?

Live a little brother, we only have one life, there is no magic mushroom that gives you extra life like Super Mario.



Did that thing happened to you? Did a 130 lbs woman traumatized you poor baby? A woman comes to your life, to teach you things about yourself.


If you already know all of that, why are you then falling for them? I know why, cause your frame is $hit and you are a spineless guy.


Nailed it.


What happens if I treat all my plates like that? Would I have multiple girlfriends? Hahaha some men are just clueless.


Wait, are you the 2nd coming of Christ and that's why you are making all those rules?


Is that a bad thing? why? Cause if you tell me since you were a single mother before, to have men use for sex only, then there are some self love that you need work on, honey.


Men's nature is to fvck multiple women and to reproduce indefinitely , not to fall in love, that's what guys who fallow their emotions do.
You try so hard. And yet, you ask silly questions.

Yes, I am the second coming of Christ. Duh.
 

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Does she treat you right?


There is no line to be drawn, drawing a line means you want her to aubmit to you because you want her for something more. If that's not what you want, then the arrangement should be fun, fun, fun and no commitment. You fvck other women and she can do whatever.


Of course, I like to cuddle and and fvck before going for work in the mornings, don't you?


Of course, I like to have her svcking my c0ck during the movie, don't you?


Of course, I enjoy a good company while doing something fun when drinks are involve and then later at night having her moaning in the comfort of my bedroom while being drunk and high on pot, don't you?


Fvck yes, I like to enjoy happy moments with somebody I like, and then fvcking her good after all those experiences, don't you?

Live a little brother, we only have one life, there is no magic mushroom that gives you extra life like Super Mario.



Did that thing happened to you? Did a 130 lbs woman traumatized you poor baby? A woman comes to your life, to teach you things about yourself.


If you already know all of that, why are you then falling for them? I know why, cause your frame is $hit and you are a spineless guy.


Nailed it.


What happens if I treat all my plates like that? Would I have multiple girlfriends? Hahaha some men are just clueless.


Wait, are you the 2nd coming of Christ and that's why you are making all those rules?


Is that a bad thing? why? Cause if you tell me since you were a single mother before, to have men use for sex only, then there are some self love that you need work on, honey.


Men's nature is to fvck multiple women and to reproduce indefinitely , not to fall in love, that's what guys who fallow their emotions do.
There’s nothing natural about you.
 

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You try so hard. And yet, you ask silly questions.

Yes, I am the second coming of Christ. Duh.
I understand. You've never had multiple plates and have taken them on dates and to travel. Its fine, one day.
 

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I ask these questions, as I see how many guys meet a chick who isn't LTR worthy, however they end up falling for her, due to doing girlfriend activities (Guilty of this myself)
The world is so little :)


@taiyuu_otoko
You wrote about "Single moms" but I don't see it as so different from "Single moms still in LTR's".

Can you find out this type of women? Who are in all respects Single moms, but are still in a relationship with a man because they are dependent on him for some reason (codependency, drugs, money, etc).

So your saying "single moms", also include those in LTR?
 
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No man after about 35 should be that desperate for sex he's entertaining damaged women for the sole purpose of it
Well, if you prefer your hand than fvcking a nice warm puzzy of a woman, that's sad.

its just like a perpetual cycle of toxic behaviour for both of you
Not really, just fvcking and fun. What's toxic about that?

last year I had a club promoter mate , guy was out of his mind but there was a constant stream of chicks , drugs and free club entries / drinks
Sounds like he's living life and having fun.

Eventually It all became empty It was pointless and I was paying a massive price in lost time and energy
Why? You couldn't handle going once per week with him to fvck women and the rest of the week working on your goals? No good my friend.


I just stopped answering his calls and texts
He still fvcking women and having fun, while you are here in a forum full of loser complaining how "women bad". Such a winner bro
 

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So you meet a girl, she is attractive and the sex is through the roof.

However too many red flags & likely no Long term compatibility (single mom)

Where do you guys draw the line, in relation to keeping her in the FWB zone?

01. Would you let her sleep over?

02. Would you chill and watch movies with her?

03. Would you take her out for drinks?

04. Would you take a naughty holiday abroad with her?
The answer is no to all 4 for an FWB. Additionally, I avoid interactions with single moms.

Just do whatever you want to do with her while still seeing other girls.

The key takeaway there is WHILE STILL SEEING OTHER GIRLS.
While seeing other women is most important. If a man does a casual sex arrangement with one woman, he need to be seeing other women.

The time to stop seeing multiple women is when someone actually achieves girlfriend status. There's been a "Define the Relationship" conversation and it has been defined as a monogamous relationship.
 

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@soulforge why is this a difficult question for you to answer?

Just do whatever you want to do with her while still seeing other girls.

The key takeaway there is WHILE STILL SEEING OTHER GIRLS.

If it comes to the point where you feel she's pressuring you into a relationship, decide at that point what you really want. Just don't assume that's what she's doing until you're sure - I have a dumba** friend that pressured HIMSELF into a relationship because he "feels like that's what she wants".
I do whatever I want with FWB's I show them a good time and vice versa

Some of you guys think to deep about these things, catching feelings I guess
 
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