Serenity
Moderator
It's really cumbersome to discuss it when you assume such a black and white stance on it. Sure, everyone lies at least a little bit at some point, but there's certainly a difference between those who find excuses to lie such as yourself and those who try to stay as honest as possible.Everybody lies, and you are a hypocrite if you say you don't lie. Again, the virtue of honestly is a lie, honestly doesn't get you the girl, game does.
I'm not saying honesty gets you the girl, at least not that alone. No single thing is what gets the girl, it's all the factors compounded, of which honesty is just a small but often Important part of a bigger picture.
You can probably do without honesty and get pretty far that way, but could have gotten even further with yet another positive quality on top of everything else. Why would you not optimize yourself?
Oh, right, no disagreement there. Obviously it wouldn't make sense to stay if there's nothing in it for us. I would fully expect her to leave if I fail as a man and she should fully expect me to leave if she fails as a woman. Believing it works any other way is just delusional.The same way you married your wife because she provided qualities of value to you, its the same way she married you, either good genetics, money, security, etc. Relationships are transactional, its easier for her to divorce you if go bankrupt than you divorcing her if she doesn't have a job. That's female nature, you are red pill, you should know that.
I live in Norway, our divorce laws don't fvck men over as badly, she wouldn't stand to gain much from it.