What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

[everywomanshero]

My take...

I've seen very, very few women that ever give good advice on how to handle women. I disagree with the original post wholeheartidly. I'll tell you why:

You aren't going to ever get anywhere by caving into her demands. That only works in the extreme short-term, if then even. In my experience, it would be better to just break up with the woman if you're tempted to resort to this sort of desperate approach. Do yourself a favor...

You should pass her tests to get in the sack. Women will sleep with a guy if he's mentally stronger than any other man she's ever met, if he has deep conviction/confidence, and he's attractive/hygenic. Sorry, but by caving in you actually fail her test. You have to be deflective and move through it with positive energy. You have to be impervious to her tests. You have to be willing to lose her in order to keep her.

That's the bottom line. Becoming emotionally and mentally strong is very difficult for most men. That is why I believe men such as myself see huge, huge amounts of success on first/second dates with women we've never met when we are in the zone, but get nada for a 2 weeks at a time with new women at other times when we're not coming across as being mentally/emotionally unstoppable.

The more tail you get, the more tail you get. I don't know who came up with that saying, but it's absolutely true. Women are never going to provide a man with the answers to handling women correctly. The first step to success is ignoring 99% of what women say abouting dating/scoring.
On the other hand, if every woman you come across says you have BO, bad breath, or dress like **** beware!

 

[JonJack]

My opinion

Personally, I look at it giving in to a girl or accomodating her as being a question of understanding that it isn't a 100% effective tactic.

I realize that a lot of guys do not condone supplicating to their girls only because they feel that by supplicating, they should be getting something back in return. It could be her loyalty that we seek or we could want her supplicating in return. So, the guy gives in and the girl 'breaks' his heart. He's obviously pissed because he's given in to her and she has abused that 'gift'.

So don't be ignorant. If you ever choose to do something for your girl, understand and realize that she could always not return it in kind. If you can't handle that fact, don't give her anything. If you have to 'buy' your girl with gifts and attention, you're headed for a world of pain.

Give because you want to give for that moment. Because you wanted to make her happy for that moment. If she abuses it later in life, she's no longer worth your time and you are better off getting into a LTR with a better girl.

 

[Jack McCrack]

Amen.

 

[Lost In Translation]

drama

this thread reminded me of something i posted once

copy + paste my response from that thread :

you wanna take a chick on a roller coaster ride ?

TAKE HER TO A THEME PARK


all this talk about drama

as a MAN you should avoid drama

infact as a MAN you should be ALLERGIC to drama

drama queens

you wanna feed them ?

turn them into a bigger monster ?

like ICE CUBE says to chicks : " save the drama for your mama "


yes b*tches love drama

but theres 2 sorts of women when it comes to drama

a normal healthy woman who likes drama but prefers a good time

and the new breed of TRASH i see coming up who act like they from a housing commission / projects / ghetto / trailer park background

these b*tches are dangerous. drama 24/7 cause nobody works in the neighbourhood so they grow watching them mother b*tching and talking $hit about everybody and everything

i have been with so many chicks like this

drama is in their DNA they will ruin your life beware !

now you got these young chicks doing the whole Paris Hilton deal

drama drama drama. everybodys gotta be talking about me.


Don Juans you don't want a woman that craves drama more than a woman should naturally

and drama is a substitute for boredom

you get a non trailer trash woman and be a REAL MAN and she won't crave drama. she will crave you.

i am all the fun and excitment any woman thats with me needs.

i am a rock. and the woman i am with holds on to that rock.

she feels special just being with me

JUST BE YOURSELF

be confident in who you are and express this to your woman

drama ?

I AM NOT MOVED

drama ?

I AM NOT MOVED

why ?

I AM A MAN


Lost In Translation

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

 

[Evangenlion]

I have noticed that my gf always tend to pick the wrong moments to request attention.

like a few nights ago. i was watching my Man United match. the match is going great, my team is control, there is smile on my face i haven't had for a while, yes yes i feel this going to be a really good game. i'm happy, the beer is flowing the ball is moving marvels around the pitch, what more can i ask for?

then a dark shadow appears from the behind me. i can smell her.

her: baby we need....blah blah blah

ME: (damit, she needs attention, if ignore her i'm gonna be in ****es for it. if i listen to her i'm gonna miss part of this match)

i get up, and funny how she wants to talk in the kichen where its hard to see the TV set. I smile, she sure is a clever one.

Her: at work today.....blah blah blah

Mewhy she telling me her problems at work, man i deal with my work issues all the times, that this one is a seriously petty issue)

Her:...and then she says...blah blah

MeOMG my team just scored and i didn't get to see it. i've told her soo many times how important these matches are for me, just keep listening)

Her: thats it, mmmm i feel much better now (kisses me)

Me: (smile) don't worry baby, it'll blow over by tommorrow (cus it always does) get me another beer will u. are you busy?.... good, can u get me snacks as well (good i scratch your back, now u scratch mine...mwaahaha maybe even call my buds over during halftime).

From a guys point of view, these cry for attention really ****ing bugs and we can't stand it. so i can understand the post that are against attention giving.

but i know how my gf is. she just wants assurance that i haven't put football above her. that i would listen no matter what Petty issue she has cus i did say "i love you" to her. i want her to be happy, cus she is one of my sources of happiness. if she's not happy, i suffer in someway.

the rest of the night she serves every dam petty demands i want.

her cries for attention should be supplied only under the agreement that she returns the fa-vour.

if u get no returns. she should know by now where the door is.

so i am For and Against Attention giving. For it when i get something in return. Against it when nothing comes back from it.

 

[DonJuanMonk]

A woman's testing/drama is only a way to see how much the guy will put up and how much control she can have over the guy.

 

[JonJack]

Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
A woman's testing/drama is only a way to see how much the guy will put up and how much control she can have over the guy.

Which is perfectly legit if you ask me. Why shouldn't she figure out how much she can 'suck' from her man? If the dude is so clueless and spineless, he deserves to be squeezed. We guys all want to have the upper hand in the relationship, to basically be in control of it. If the girl wants to gain control too, that's fair play.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Re: Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Attention/affection (feeling loved) to a woman is what getting sex is to men. If you don't care if you are satisfying her emotional needs why should she care if she is satisfying your sexual needs?

A woman's emotional needs are JUST as important to her as your sexual needs are to you.

Your attitude will prevent you from ever having a successful long term relationship. Eventually you will meet someone you will want a relationship with, and if you don't care about her needs as well as your own you will fail...period.

women need sex, too.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ketostix
Wyldfire I find your premise that (all) men only have sexual needs, while women have emotional needs to be ignorant. Also, you always excuse and condone poor female behavior. Every guy knows you have to walk a tight rope with any female who choose to be a b*tch..duh

Where did I say sex was men's only need? Stop acting like such a victim. I only listed one need for women, too. Christ Almighty...if it's men's rights you want to discuss then go to a goddamned men's rights site and spare the rest of us yet another one of these gender issue diatribes. It's getting old.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by shaken_not_stirred
i'm pretty sure i read this in some article. did you just write this or copy and paste it from somewhere?

I wrote a tip similar to this not that long ago...that's probably where you saw it.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by Gonzalo
Just like this thread.

No, a thread A-Unit wrote started straying off on the subject of women testing and such and I thought it would be good to have a thread about that and how I had intended to respond to one comment on the other thread. I didn't want A-Unit's thread to stray off topic because it was a good thread, so I said what I had to say in a new thread for that reason.

 

[ketostix]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Where did I say sex was men's only need? Stop acting like such a victim. I only listed one need for women, too. Christ Almighty...if it's men's rights you want to discuss then go to a goddamned men's rights site and spare the rest of us yet another one of these gender issue diatribes. It's getting old.

What are you talking about? I'm saying I think your advice is basic at best and wrong at worst and female biased. If anything you're the one promoting women's right with all your attacks on the "masculinism" here that doesn't even actually exist..

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: My take...

Originally posted by everywomanshero
I've seen very, very few women that ever give good advice on how to handle women. I disagree with the original post wholeheartidly. I'll tell you why:

You aren't going to ever get anywhere by caving into her demands. That only works in the extreme short-term, if then even. In my experience, it would be better to just break up with the woman if you're tempted to resort to this sort of desperate approach. Do yourself a favor...

You should pass her tests to get in the sack. Women will sleep with a guy if he's mentally stronger than any other man she's ever met, if he has deep conviction/confidence, and he's attractive/hygenic. Sorry, but by caving in you actually fail her test. You have to be deflective and move through it with positive energy. You have to be impervious to her tests. You have to be willing to lose her in order to keep her.

That's the bottom line. Becoming emotionally and mentally strong is very difficult for most men. That is why I believe men such as myself see huge, huge amounts of success on first/second dates with women we've never met when we are in the zone, but get nada for a 2 weeks at a time with new women at other times when we're not coming across as being mentally/emotionally unstoppable.

The more tail you get, the more tail you get. I don't know who came up with that saying, but it's absolutely true. Women are never going to provide a man with the answers to handling women correctly. The first step to success is ignoring 99% of what women say abouting dating/scoring.
On the other hand, if every woman you come across says you have BO, bad breath, or dress like **** beware!

I didn't tell anyone to "cave in" to demands. I simply told you that IF a woman is testing you and creating drama and conflict she is doing it to force you to pay attention to her because you have NOT satisfied her emotional needs. I am saying that to AVOID the negative things you don't like you need to make sure you are fulfilling her emotional needs by giving her the level of attention and affection she needs. She's going to get that attention from you one way or another...either from you voluntarily giving it to her before she starts a fight, by giving in after she has started a fight or by continuing to fight. Each way she STILL gets the attention she wanted. Now what does the guy get from each of these three options? If he goes with option one and gives her the attention she needs before she forces him to give her negative attention he's satisfied her emotional needs and she's going to be extra loving towards him...good chance he's gonna get some good sex out of the deal. If he goes with option two, he is going to be aggravated and feel like he is handing her his balls by giving in. Probably no sex later that night. Option three...she's pissed at you and not only will you not be having sex tonight, you might not be having it for quite some time...and you're aggravated as well.

Logically...the choice in the best interest of both the guy, the girl AND their relationship is choice number one.

Arguing with this is not rational or logical. It's so blatantly obvious that the wise thing to do is always going to be PREVENTING problems before they arise.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ketostix
What are you talking about? I'm saying I think your advice is basic at best and wrong at worst and female biased. If anything you're the one promoting women's right with all your attacks on the "masculinism" here that doesn't even actually exist..

Wrong ketostix...you are constantly claiming that I am sticking up for women, etc. Aside from me and a couple of others there aren't any women here. It's kind of difficult to "stick up" for a group of people who aren't even present. I am giving advice and offering input based on the facts that I am given or patterns that I see in the way women and men relate to each other. It's not biased in any way. What good does it do anyone here to just complain about women all the time? It does NO good at all. Those women aren't hearing any of it and their behavior isn't going to change. There is NO sense focusing any energy on complaining about women. There IS, however, a lot of sense in looking at what the guys here can do differently in order to have the best chance of leading those women to alter their behavior. THAT is what this thread is about. I'm telling you guys how to avoid the tests and picking of fights by doing something so freaking simple and easy and so many of you are acting as if I took away your flippin' birthday.

I don't want to see a single one of you guys who oppose fulfilling your girlfriends emotional needs to make even one post asking why or complaining about your girlfriend never wanting sex. For women, her sexual desire is tied directly to her emotional happiness. If you don't fulfill those needs of hers she's not going to want or enjoy sex. To men, sex is physical, for women it's emotional. If you aren't doing it for her emotionally she's not going to be into sex with you.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
women need sex, too.

No they don't...women need intimacy and emotional satisfaction. This is why when men have been with a woman awhile and stops making the effort to fulfil her emotional needs she loses interest in sex. A woman's sexual desire is emotionally fueled. If her emotional needs are not met she has no "fuel" for sex. Hence the "Not tonight...I'm tired" or "I'm not in the mood."

 

[mrRuckus]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Throughout all of time, women have always needed to feel loved in the same way men have always needed sex.

I need to feel loved. My gf needs sex.

My horny gf is changing birth control methods just so her period stops because she can't stand not having sex for a few days/week.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by mrRuckus
I need to feel loved. My gf needs sex.

My horny gf is changing birth control methods just so her period stops because she can't stand not having sex for a few days/week.

That is not typical...and I'm talking IN GENERAL, not on a case by case basis. There are exceptions to every rule...but the majority is just as I stated.

 

[mrRuckus]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What a woman's testing/drama REALLY means...

Originally posted by Wyldfire
I simply told you that IF a woman is testing you and creating drama and conflict she is doing it to force you to pay attention to her because you have NOT satisfied her emotional needs.

Or she's doing it because she feels like it and WANTS (not needs) the attention right then because how dare you watch football when you could be going to the mall with her.

How is she forcing you to pay attention her? Causing fights? I don't even get into fights. At most, it's a disagreement where i state my view and she can accept it or not, but i'm not going to get worked up over it and i've reiterated several times with my current gf taht if she's going to raise her voice, start insinuating i'm stupid because i disagree with something that's "obvious" to her, or name calling (all the typical stupid **** in fights) that the conversation is over right then until she's ready to talk like a mature adult who can respect a dissenting opinion.

People are always getting worked up over dumb crap. Last night at softball my team was all riled up because the other team was killing us and was talking sh1t and running up the score and showing off by batting opposite handed on purpose for no apparent reason other than to bug us. Me, i was just like whatever, who cares... no reason to start a fight.. let's just go home. In the morning it won't matter a rat's ass.

Originally posted by Wyldfire
That is not typical...and I'm talking IN GENERAL, not on a case by case basis. There are exceptions to every rule...but the majority is just as I stated.

My gf's friends also go out with the goal of getting laid. One of the sweetest girls i know doesn't want a relationship but she goes out and finds a guy to have sex with just to satisfy her physical need.

Another white chick i know goes out with black men on work release who are only out from 8 to 6pm just to get laid and doesn't want a relationship.

Then there's the others i know who whine when they're not having sex.

Girls are horny as hell and it seems to me the ones that aren't are the abnormal ones.

Originally posted by Wyldfire
To men, sex is physical, for women it's emotional.

I must be all fcukered up because the best sex i have is emotionally driven.

Maybe i'm female and don't know it.

 

[Wyldfire]

If most women think like men regarding sex (as you seem to be implying) then there would be no need for this site because it would be easy for men to get sex with any woman they wanted to.

And yes, you were forced to give your gf attention by taking the time to tell her you weren't going to have any discussion until she calmed down. That qualifies as giving attention.

I swear that you guys will argue with anything I post just because I have tits. However, if a guy posted the SAME thing there would be none of the arguing. It's juvenile and inane.

The concept I have posted about is so basic, simple and true it should be obvious.

And everyone with half a brain cell knows that girls who go out "looking for sex" are doing so because they're looking for love in all the wrong places. It's common knowledge that promiscuous females are that way because they have low self-esteem and only think they are worthy of love if someone wants to use them as a sperm depository. Ultimately, the fulfilment those girls are seeking is STILL emotional and NOT sexual. It's NOT a physical NEED for women...it is EMOTIONAL.

Damn it, where is Rollo when you need him? Although he might not agree with the premise of the thread, I'm quite confident he'd agree with me that slvtty females aren't out screwing lots of guys for the physical aspect of it. It's emotionally rooted and can be attributed to psychological problems in almost every instance.

 

[frivolousz21]

TIT boy wrote-

More feminised brainwashing. The b!tches sexual satisfaction is just as important as the mans, make no mistakes. As a matter of fact women leave men in far greater numbers than vice versa if the partner sucks in bed.

As for her "emotional needs" what do you think I'm doing by giving her the threat of boning other women? b!tches eat that sh!t up, its what they live for.




you are a freaking dolt!

who has no clue...infact I dont see how any women besides one with low low self esteem would considering being in your prescense.

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: