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I’m exceptionally good at losing people. In fact, so good that I am, I have a hard time holding onto people that I do want to stick around. I tend to let things slip and don’t follow up with maintaining relations. And when I do want to lose someone, giving them the sense I blew them off suffices.

But there’s this woman I met a few months ago who turned out to be very chaotic. She lacked any vitality in life—a hair from being homeless; is clingy, constantly whined about things, blaming everyone else for her problems, her life was permeated with chaotic individuals. It was one thing after another. After awhile, I stopped believing her. (e.g. her next-door neighbors, who are wanted fugitives for murder, stole some big thing from her backyard.) I strongly suspected that she has a borderline personality. Anyway, I was never intimate with her, never even kissed her, which was intentional. I didn’t want to form an intimate bond in case I wanted to eject.

After a few weeks, I bailed. She was always the one who called me, so I stopped returning her phone calls. That was maybe ten weeks ago.

She still calls, about once or twice a week. A few times she even played the game of calling me from pay phones to evade any phone screening (which I foiled by reverse tracing the numbers). I’ve been tempted to answer one of her calls to tell her to essentially shut up but I figured that once I started not returning her calls I better keep up at it. It’s been two and a half months, surely she’d have gotten the message I lost interest.

What prompts this question is that now she has resorted to e-mailing me, telling me essentially that she misses me and blah blah blah. I figure I have a few options:
  • Send her an e-mail explaining how I’m essentially too busy to hang out with her ever again.
  • E-mail that I’m too busy, explain how I met another woman. (But I figure she’d then very likely say she wants to meet her).
  • Continue the blackout.
Any advice?
 

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Deep Dish said:
After a few weeks, I bailed. She was always the one who called me, so I stopped returning her phone calls. That was maybe ten weeks ago.
Women need closure. You left everything in the air and she thinks you are still interested. Let her know you are over with her and wish her all the best.

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She sounds pretty fruity to me. I've known a couple of those in my time....yikes

If she hasn't gotten the hint after a couple of months you will probably have to be a little more direct.

If we do the lunch deal this weekend you can fill me in on the details.
 

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Deep Dish...just send her an email and tell her that you aren't interested in her romantically and you don't maintain friendships with women and ask her to please stop trying to call you or email you because after that email you won't be contacting her again. Wish her well in life and call it a day.
 

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You have a stalker on your hands... I'd say keep it up, if you respond to her in any way it may add fuel to the fire
Agreed. You've got her to the point where she's slowed down. I'd consider that an improvement, so completely ignoring her is working.

Women like this can be very posessive and controlling. Telling her you're seeing someone will only piss her off, and make her determined to destroy your credibility. Communicating with her will only cause her to continue contacting you, and will do so more often.

Once she finally figures out that she can no longer has you in her life, she'll move onto some other guy to irritate.

Women never get "closure". They're looking to hear what they want to hear. When you tell them the truth, they don't get closure. They get pissed off!
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I want to thank everyone who replied. I definitely agree she’s the stalker type but after weighing the options, I went against my usual advice and decided to make one nice but firm reply. After sending it, I placed an e-mail filter to delete any messages from her and should she try to contact me through any medium, phone or e-mail, she will reach a brick wall forever until the sun blows up.

Just in case anyone was curious, here’s the e-mail I got...
HEY U! WTF is up???? I've tried to get into contact with you but no luck what so ever. Are you still alive??? I miss you... Are you mad at me or something? I don't know what i could have done to piss you off. I got a job finally. CALL ME PLEAZ. [phone number]..... Well Hope everything is OK... Maybe we can do something or some shyt. cool ? well take care and all that good stuff..... stephanie ")
And here is what I wrote back...
Dear Stephanie,

I have many things going on in my life and between all the things I really don’t have time to see you. It was nice hanging out with you those times that we did but those times have come to an end. I’m not angry at you, for you never did anything which would justify that, but my priorities are in other places. I must add that there were some things about you, such as living in a bad neighborhood, which made me feel unsafe and I lost interest. I would kindly suggest you move on and find other, perhaps more interesting, people than myself to hang out with, surely they are out there. Best of luck. :)

Regards,
Cory
It was blunter and more honest than I wanted, but I wanted to ensure she didn’t weasel through anything lighter. Also, for the guys who warned against mentioning any ladies, thanks for confirming my suspicions.
 

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Desdinova said:
I'll bet any money you just raised her IL through the roof. Prepare for more surprises.
Update:

To my dismay, yesterday I received a call from her while gulping down a mini-pizza on a lunch break, which I didn’t bother to answer, and when I got home I checked and saw she had e-mailed me. To my dismay, she predictably overlooked the fact I was rejecting her and acted as if she had missed the part of the message which said "I lost interest" and "things have ended." To my dismay, I expect further attempts from her in the future, once every one or two weeks for at least one or two months. I guess it was a lose-lose situation for me; either be cruel and leave her hanging or be nice and... crap.
 

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You are placing the blame on her surroundings rather than on her. This seems to give her the wrong impression that she still has a chance. I suggest being blunter still:

I like you as a sister/friend.
Having sex with you would be like incest.
You have no chances on ever hooking up with me. Ever.

This might be mean, but you've dug yourself into a deeper hole than necessary.
 

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GuitarOnFire:
I suggest being blunter still:

I like you as a sister/friend.
See, there is my problem. We saw each other under the guise of friendship. We ‘hung out’. When at one point talk of relationships arose, I said I liked being single and she said likewise. She played the game of feigning playing it cool. But, repeatedly, her actions demonstrated otherwise. I could tell she wanted a relationship. So, how do you dump a ‘friend’, that’s the question I’ve been dealing with. In a way, it’s rather enlightening to me; I feel like the ‘hot chick’ who’s being chased by the ‘AFC’ with ulterior motives.
flippinfreak:
You are too scared to call her and give it to her straight.
One problem with her is that she weasels through everything. It’s like trying to talk to a defense lawyer. I know she would bulldoze over anything I said rather than accept it, resorting to things getting rather ugly. Fortunately for me, it’s not like she called every day and she has even downsized herself to not even bother leaving voice mail messages. Also, since I wasn’t intimate with her and made sure to not make any promises about anything, I don’t feel the obligation I would have with greater degrees of intimacy.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I feel like the ‘hot chick’ who’s being chased by the ‘AFC’ with ulterior motives.
That's exactly what's happening. She's hoping that if she's friends with you long enough, you'll become attracted to her.

There's only a couple of things you can really do in a situation like this:

1) Continue to ignore her and wait for her to move onto her next "victim"
2) Get a "cease of contact" order against her.

Option #1 is probably the kindest way to deal with it, letting time apart work in your favor. Option #2 can cause her to become extremely bitter and vengeful toward you.

I suggest you search google on how to deal with a stalker. I've had to deal with this 5hit twice now, and it's not fun.
 

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These type of people are "poison people" they are miserable and want to pull you with their miserableness. Like one or two other posters above me, wait out till they find their next AFC to victimize.
 

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Option #1 is probably the kindest way to deal with it, letting time apart work in your favor.
Today I hung out with STR8UP for a few hours and he said he came up with a perfect solution. He suggested I reverse myself and go total chump on her, that I proclaim I’m madly grossly in love with her. It works on sane women but it’s a big gamble on crazy stalkers. I think that even if I took it to the extreme and pop the marriage question there’s a reasonable chance she’d say yes. When I first met her, she asked to meet my parents. (Just in case anyone doubted me on my assessment of her non-platonic motives.)

Unfortunately, she knows my last name, lives a few short miles away from me, and knows the places where I like to hang out. But on the bright side, she’s a high school dropout who’s pretty broke, last I checked didn’t have a car, and my hang out joints are relatively far away. It’d be tough for her to stalk me but not impossible.

Option #1 it shall be, all the way. The ultimate irony is that someday she might want to apply for food stamps and I’m a caseworker. She could see my car in the parking lot and worse yet there’s a (slim :)) chance I’d get assigned her case. Sure, there’s a barb wired fence but there’s always scissors. ;)

I have a profiling book which has a chapter on the different types of stalkers, but of course nothing about dealing with them. To Google I shall go... :)
Macgyver:
These type of people are "poison people" they are miserable and want to pull you with their miserableness.
Right on. Amazingly, women tell you right up-front exactly what they’re going to do to you in the future. She said her ex-boyfriend despised her and would never return her phone calls. She also expressed the sentiment that people are fake, putting on a façade, and that “True friends are few and far in-between.” Of course, that translated to that I would eventually do the same, abandoning her and being “fake.”
 

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Deep Dish said:
Today I hung out with STR8UP for a few hours and he said he came up with a perfect solution. He suggested I reverse myself and go total chump on her, that I proclaim I’m madly grossly in love with her. It works on sane women but it’s a big gamble on crazy stalkers.
I still say go AFC on her ass. Write up the cheesiest, sappiest love poem, pick a bunch of wild flowers, get some balloons and a card and profess your undying love for her telling her that you can't believe how you didn't see it before now, but all is good since now you are both on the same track and you can be together forever......

Just make sure you videotape everything. I'l bring the popcorn.
 

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You've gotta make sure to incorporate the term "soulmate" into the whole thing. :crackup:

Just the thought of "going AFC" intentionally on a chick is pretty hilarious. The possibilities for good comedy are endless. Too bad it would probably work though.
 

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STR8UP:
I still say go AFC on her ass.
I know that your ex-girlfriend called you hundreds of times a day right after you broke up with her and did some stalking but a real stalker wouldn’t be warded off from your home by an awesomely cool hand-carved string puppet and consider it creepy. ;) Seriously, though, you know I’m right.

(On a side note, how the hell do women find that puppet creepy. :eek:)
 

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Could you tell he had a hair piece on or did it really look natural?
Yeah but there’s barely a hair of difference and only because I knew. The difference is so subtle that if you didn’t know the top was fake, you’d never notice. It really is the James Bond of wigs. And, from what I hear, in a short time the hair will be tweaked to where it’s impossible to tell a difference even if you know. I believe it.
 

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STR8UP said:
I still say go AFC on her ass. Write up the cheesiest, sappiest love poem, pick a bunch of wild flowers, get some balloons and a card and profess your undying love for her telling her that you can't believe how you didn't see it before now, but all is good since now you are both on the same track and you can be together forever......

Just make sure you videotape everything. I'l bring the popcorn.
Damnit! STR8UP stole my suggestion :mad:

There is another way of getting rid of her . . . Lots of Green Swamp out here in Central Florida, lotsa gators to eat those who don't want to be found.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Damnit! STR8UP stole my suggestion :mad:

There is another way of getting rid of her . . . Lots of Green Swamp out here in Central Florida, lotsa gators to eat those who don't want to be found.
One quick amendment:

I just watched an infomercial for 80's love songs. Send her that plus some weeds (she's fruity enough to believe they're roses or tulips anyway! ) and profess your undying devotion to her and how badly you want to give her your seed. All you'll see is a$$ and elbows . . .
 
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