We must open our horizons and date internationally

[Scaramouche]

Hi Plumber,
Sorry,but nearly twenty years ago I almost completely gave up on Western women,so I couldn't say.

 

[plumber]

Hi Plumber,
Sorry,but nearly twenty years ago I almost completely gave up on Western women,so I couldn't say.

ya, I could relate to that.

so.., if the Asian girl is in the west because a western man arranged it and then she is available, maybe that suggests she is just like the other western women already or always was. If she is hot or has some good charisma she will already have visibility with top tier men in the west, at least in the area she is in. Good for short time, but maybe not for LTR. Somewhat easy to get as a side bet especially if the guy she is with is low SMV (older guy, small pension or below average money, out of shape and shy, nerd, weird, short, bald, ...)

better to role the dice with a fresh pick or fix some of the things that result in low SMV. No one can fix them all.

 

[CornbreadFed]

@Gamisch I may be exagerrating a little bit about how bad US women are but I live in the worst city for dating. I live close to Washington DC.

DC is the easiest city in the world to date women because your competition consists of soy pajama boys with feminine energy. You only have to worry about rich guys, but I would compete against them over Chads & Brads.

 

[BaronOfHair]

This was inspired by the brother @cola latest post. Gentlemen it is a global world. No one is loyal to their nation anymore. Corporations are hiring internationally and displacing American workers, women are dating internationally and being flown out, it is time we do the same.

Foreign women are not perfect but they often come from cultures that suppress their chaos. If you are still banging your head against that wall dating in America you have no one to blame but yourself. You are not a victim. You can do something. American women are done. It is OVER. The early 2000s are not coming back. Accept this fact. Even if you do find a unicorn she will eventually use the family courts against you.

You have to hurry with the overseas thing because even those women are getting corrupted. Social media is creating a homogenous global culture. I know you are sick of me shilling for passport bros but this is the only answer. I love you guys. This place has been a safe haven for me since 2008. I am telling you to go overseas before that well dries up.

The counsel you offer is doubly wise for men who's profession is international terrorism, whilst also being knee deep in narcotics and arms trafficking...

Bedding down with a former Ms. Nebraska, when both federal law enforcement and the intelligence services in eight different nations have rewarded you with spot #1 on their Most Wanted List, is a less viable proposition than persuading the average Calcuttan to defecate somewhere other than on the street

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Plumber,
"better to role the dice with a fresh pick"....Yes,but for Australians,you must marry the Girl to bring her back to the Country,whereas with a "retread",she is already here and her delights may be sampled at leisure,before deciding whether to take the plunge...Anyone can put on an act for the limited time you have to check her out,you are really buying a "Pig in a poke".

 

[Pandora]

DC is the easiest city in the world to date women because your competition consists of soy pajama boys with feminine energy. You only have to worry about rich guys, but I would compete against them over Chads & Brads.

You never dated in DMV. You speak of things you know nothing of.

DC does not have soy boys. Its not San Francisco. The men in DC have the most money on the East Coast. They are not particularly soy. They are political.

 

[Pandora]

Tell me something, as a man from poor African country, let's say Burkina Faso, can you date a lady in the United States? No, right, it don't work that way. It's dating WAAAY up. I don't even think dropping standards, or adding pounds in a woman will change anything. This only works if you are from United States and travel abroad for a woman.

Now this is the same as dating with your wallet. Except here, instead of money, woman sees in you immigration, green card, and U.S. citizenship. You're that prince, on white horse, that going to the country for a peasant chick.

Women are the same all over the world, because female nature don't change with jurisdiction.

You guys assume the only way a foriegn women would like an American man is through his wallet lol.

Sometimes women just think you are cute and like your personality. Wallet is a bonus.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You never dated in DMV. You speak of things you know nothing of.

DC does not have soy boys. Its not San Francisco. The men in DC have the most money on the East Coast. They are not particularly soy. They are political.

I travel to DC for work regularly and had a few long-distance flings with a few girls up there. If I wanted to, I could get fvck a new girl every night in DC because masculine men are in high scarcity up there. I remember being asked if I liked sports constantly because apparently men are that feminine up there. Since politics is a feminine game, these men are feminine minded by default.

 

[Pandora]

I travel to DC for work regularly and had a few long-distance flings with a few girls up there. If I wanted to, I could get fvck a new girl every night in DC because masculine men are in high scarcity up there. I remember being asked if I liked sports constantly because apparently men are that feminine up there. Since politics is a feminine game, these men are feminine minded by default.

I dont believe anything you say. Prove it with pictures or shush.

If Roissy ( one of the founders of the PUA community) and Roosh V could barely get anything in DC aint no way you you can.

Roosh V hated DC dating. There are youtubers that have built channels on how bad DC is for dating but apparently they are wrong and you are right.

Bro until you show your face and prove the nonsense you say I wont believe you.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I dont believe anything you say. Prove it with pictures or shush.

If Roissy ( one of the founders of the PUA community) and Roosh V could barely get anything in DC aint no way you you can.

Roosh V hated DC dating. There are youtubers that have built channels on how bad DC is for dating but apparently they are wrong and you are right.

Bro until you show your face and prove the nonsense you say I wont believe you.

Roosh v looks like a skinny soy boy which are a dime a dozen in dc. Why does my face matter? There’s guys that kill it in my hometown Nashville, and I suck there because my type isn’t high in demand there.

 

[Pandora]

Guys I hate to keep harping on this but ima say this one more time. I am talking to girls from the Kazakh area. If you like Asian girls this is the place.

These chicks are really pretty. There are so many pretty women in the international market. Many of these chicks are single and will die single af.

In these regions it is the opposite of the USA. The men are the divas and the women are the afc's. This is especially true in Russia. Hot chicks are getting treated badly by regular Russian dudes because there are so few men.

If I showed you guys my match list you would be in shock. Also 95% of the girls actually talk back.

Yall gonna keep beating your head up against a brick wall in the USA.

I wish I was 21 and had no conscience again. If I was in my 20s and didnt care I would just match with international girls online and go visit them. By the end of the year I would have a bodycount of at least 12 and most of them cuties.

Hear me out young men. Make yourself a good catch and a good man. Then go dip internationally.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Guys I hate to keep harping on this but ima say this one more time. I am talking to girls from the Kazakh area. If you like Asian girls this is the place.

These chicks are really pretty. There are so many pretty women in the international market. Many of these chicks are single and will die single af.

In these regions it is the opposite of the USA. The men are the divas and the women are the afc's. This is especially true in Russia. Hot chicks are getting treated badly by regular Russian dudes because there are so few men.

If I showed you guys my match list you would be in shock. Also 95% of the girls actually talk back.

Yall gonna keep beating your head up against a brick wall in the USA.

I wish I was 21 and had no conscience again. If I was in my 20s and didnt care I would just match with international girls online and go visit them. By the end of the year I would have a bodycount of at least 12 and most of them cuties.

Hear me out young men. Make yourself a good catch and a good man. Then go dip internationally.

Aren’t you getting married soon?

 

[Gamisch]

Guys I hate to keep harping on this but ima say this one more time. I am talking to girls from the Kazakh area. If you like Asian girls this is the place.

These chicks are really pretty. There are so many pretty women in the international market. Many of these chicks are single and will die single af.

In these regions it is the opposite of the USA. The men are the divas and the women are the afc's. This is especially true in Russia. Hot chicks are getting treated badly by regular Russian dudes because there are so few men.

If I showed you guys my match list you would be in shock. Also 95% of the girls actually talk back.

Yall gonna keep beating your head up against a brick wall in the USA.

I wish I was 21 and had no conscience again. If I was in my 20s and didnt care I would just match with international girls online and go visit them. By the end of the year I would have a bodycount of at least 12 and most of them cuties.

Hear me out young men. Make yourself a good catch and a good man. Then go dip internationally.

I disagree. If anything PP bro-ing should be an older man's game. If you're young and in your prime AND you're winning in life then getting women where you at shouldn't be a problem.

One thing that most PPbros seem to have in common is they're really angry at (western) women. Imo this anger will show itself tenfold once the big investment in dating overseas falls apart as well.

Life is expensive .Dating is expensive . Dating overseas is ten times more expensive. Dating overseas has all the negative aspects such as extremely long distance and difficulty to spontaneously connect with her. I also don't understand why a foreign woman won't be like any other woman who wants to d1cked down on a regular or wakes up horny one day.

One former homie dates a Pina for 6 years and met her twice. We had a fall out because I said that REALISTICALLY it's not possible that she waits for 6 years while seeing her " man " twice and maintaining attraction while being 23- 29( her prime). Out of sight out of heart .

Ofcourse dude is build like a bag of potatoes. Yeah, she wants nothing more than his bleak fat skinny fat soft azz . Like ,because she is from the Philippines all of the experience and wisdom we learn about women doesn't apply..

Aren’t you getting married soon?

Oops...

I am sorry OP but this is indeed kinda hypocritical. You a smart dude so you should be able to tell this yourself.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I disagree. If anything PP bro-ing should be an older man's game. If you're young and in your prime AND you're winning in life then getting women there you at shouldn't be a problem.

100% dude. If you are under the age of 50, you shouldn’t be a passport bro

 

[Hamurabimbi]

When I got divorced, before Covid, I wasn’t sure of my SMV here in the US. I seriously gave consideration to heading overseas to find a woman. I figured as a good looking, White American with decent money, I’d clean up in someplace like Cambodia or Columbia or Camaroon.
Turns out, I didn’t need to ex-pat.
However, I still think it is a viable strategy.

 

[Pandora]

I disagree. If anything PP bro-ing should be an older man's game. If you're young and in your prime AND you're winning in life then getting women where you at shouldn't be a problem.

One thing that most PPbros seem to have in common is they're really angry at (western) women. Imo this anger will show itself tenfold once the big investment in dating overseas falls apart as well.

Life is expensive .Dating is expensive . Dating overseas is ten times more expensive. Dating overseas has all the negative aspects such as extremely long distance and difficulty to spontaneously connect with her. I also don't understand why a foreign woman won't be like any other woman who wants to d1cked down on a regular or wakes up horny one day.

One former homie dates a Pina for 6 years and met her twice. We had a fall out because I said that REALISTICALLY it's not possible that she waits for 6 years while seeing her " man " twice and maintaining attraction while being 23- 29( her prime). Out of sight out of heart .

Ofcourse dude is build like a bag of potatoes. Yeah, she wants nothing more than his bleak fat skinny fat soft azz . Like ,because she is from the Philippines all of the experience and wisdom we learn about women doesn't apply..




Oops...

I am sorry OP but this is indeed kinda hypocritical. You a smart dude so you should be able to tell this yourself.

So by your logic Roosh V could not get girls in the states.

I have had success in the USA and have had success overseas. Overseas is just more fun. Im sorry.

If you dont agree I get it. I just dont understand what yall find so fun in the states when the average girl is fat af.

I will say that I failed to commit to a girl in my early 20s so this may be why im going overseas. If you are in your early 20s then try a girl in the states ( you will get divorced rape but hey). If you trying to date in your mid 30s in the USA you better off going overseas.

International girls are much hotter anyway.

 

[Pandora]

When I got divorced, before Covid, I wasn’t sure of my SMV here in the US. I seriously gave consideration to heading overseas to find a woman. I figured as a good looking, White American with decent money, I’d clean up in someplace like Cambodia or Columbia or Camaroon.
Turns out, I didn’t need to ex-pat.
However, I still think it is a viable strategy.

It is a viable strategy and just more fun. Banging exotic skinny girls is more fun than trying to chase after entitiled fat American women.

The world is global now. Some guys just want to stay in a small corner then its ok.

Also the laws are in your favor overseas.

I was talking to a guy the other day from Slovakia. He is good with women. He was visiting the USA for a couple days. He told me in Slovakia the girls are everywhere in the streets. The street and cafe culture is vibrant.

In America he said he was afraid to talk to women because he could get sued .
This is what Europeans think of America.

 

[Pandora]

So I get some matches online dating. Have yall seen the choices of women in the USA online dating apps? Gross. Forreal.

Fire up a dating app but put your location for a foreign country and compare the pics. I rest my case.

 

[Pandora]

Depending on where exactly you go.

- money is different, maybe by a huge amount. you can move into the .01% class. this makes a difference.
- size is different, in some places a 5'10" guy is tall.
- laws are different, many places the mans word is at least equal to the woman's. some places its stronger.

In short your SMV might go way up vs the locals. No mystery. The women will treat you just like you see TOP tier men treated in any location because you become one. As long as you are in that place.

Risk
- if you stay, how to continue money. this is the number one issue most find.
- security, karma is real.
- health, fitness and other are still or even more important.
- geo political; local laws and government can change or go against you.
- you are not the top man in the area you select, some local guy(s) is/are. really understand that.
- bring her to the west, you are no longer a top tier man in her field of view. now its back to your old SMV and skills.

Yes bro this is 100% correct. I am not denying this.

Your SMV will skyrocket overseas due to the exotic factor alone. Men should take advantage of this.

Most young men in the USA are not having sex. The rest are having sex with fat chicks.

Atleast overseas they can taste what its like to have sex and date and maybe even marry a semi traditional skinny woman.

Hey Einsteins definition of insanity is " staying in America doing the same thing over and over again".

 

[Gamisch]

So by your logic Roosh V could not get girls in the states.

I have had success in the USA and have had success overseas. Overseas is just more fun. Im sorry.

If you dont agree I get it. I just dont understand what yall find so fun in the states when the average girl is fat af.

I will say that I failed to commit to a girl in my early 20s so this may be why im going overseas. If you are in your early 20s then try a girl in the states ( you will get divorced rape but hey). If you trying to date in your mid 30s in the USA you better off going overseas.

International girls are much hotter anyway.

I don't know Roosh v nor do I have any idea what his story is.

But why wouldn't you get divorcedraped in any other country?

Dating to ME means seeing a woman regularly.

Talking to her on the phone on set " contact moments" while sending her money every month only to see her once or twice a year isn't exactly my definition of dating...

Men who do this live life with what I call a false sense of security, while they simultaneously block out potential local partners because they're " occupied "( by an illusion)

Yes bro this is 100% correct. I am not denying this.

Your SMV will skyrocket overseas due to the exotic factor alone. Men should take advantage of this.

Most young men in the USA are not having sex. The rest are having sex with fat chicks.

Atleast overseas they can taste what its like to have sex and date and maybe even marry a semi traditional skinny woman.

Hey Einsteins definition of insanity is " staying in America doing the same thing over and over again".

But who is sleeping with all the hb6- hb9's? By your logic there are either only ugly fat women. Please don't tellme that USA has zero attractive women....who they fecking with. Dudes who are somewhat attractive? Exactly.

You think it's realistic for young men to date overseas in a fecked up economy where paying rent is a challenge????

Or should they level up until they get some leverage over women?