We must open our horizons and date internationally

[Pandora]

This was inspired by the brother @cola latest post. Gentlemen it is a global world. No one is loyal to their nation anymore. Corporations are hiring internationally and displacing American workers, women are dating internationally and being flown out, it is time we do the same.

Foreign women are not perfect but they often come from cultures that suppress their chaos. If you are still banging your head against that wall dating in America you have no one to blame but yourself. You are not a victim. You can do something. American women are done. It is OVER. The early 2000s are not coming back. Accept this fact. Even if you do find a unicorn she will eventually use the family courts against you.

You have to hurry with the overseas thing because even those women are getting corrupted. Social media is creating a homogenous global culture. I know you are sick of me shilling for passport bros but this is the only answer. I love you guys. This place has been a safe haven for me since 2008. I am telling you to go overseas before that well dries up.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you are doing it for the right purpose then that's fine. Too many men use this as a cover to simply find women who have low standards so they can find someone willing to go out with them.

Instead of looking in the mirror and accepting they have things they need to improve and work on, they look for the shortcut to not do any work and find someone who just has low standards.

Unfortunately that only covers up so much. The same issues that make them unattractive to women wherever they struggle will make them unattractive to these women also. They will accept it for a while until they can afford to worry about how attracted they are to the man versus their safety and finances. When they are simply trying to survive daily, anyone who offers them a chance to get out of that will be like a gold mine to them.

But once they get out of that place and get settled with them after a few years, they no longer have these worries. Then the same issues the man felt they could get around by finding a woman with low standards instead of improving their SMV and mindset to help them do better where they were lead to the very same outcomes they had while dating where they were.

You can never succeed long term when you look for ways to get around self-improvement and success by trying to lower your standard for those things.

You will always end up failing eventually because that's not how life works and that's not how women or attraction works either.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Don't make women your mission and the grinding never stops. If you can't find what you're looking for at home, it's worth questioning why you need to go abroad for, especially considering that the quality of life in many third-world countries is often worse than in first-world ones.

 

[SW15]

Men in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the United States have been looking to Eastern Europe, Asia, and Latin America since the 1990s-2000s. I remember hearing about international travel for mating purposes when I was young adult in the 2000s.

The thing that has changed since the 2000s is that more men realized that they have to stay over in that traditional culture nation. In the 2000s, I heard more men taking their Eastern European/Asian/Latin American woman back to the Western home country. Since then, guidance has been provided to men that the idea of bringing a non-Western woman to the West is a bad idea because the non-Western woman will start to become Westernized. That often dooms the relationship.

 

[Solomon]

Don't make women your mission and the grinding never stops. If you can't find what you're looking for at home, it's worth questioning why you need to go abroad for, especially considering that the quality of life in many third-world countries is often worse than in first-world ones.

I totally agree with his but I also agree with OP, when he says you're not the victim, it's scary how many men have turned to women in the last decade with a victim mentality. I used to enjoy going on X to read random topics but I try avoid relationship/red pill topics like the plagues because it's nothing but whiny incels trying to virtue signal. Newsflash you can't shame women in 2025

Regardless as a man you must take inventory of your life in a brutal honest fashion(which most men aren't willing to do cause it's easier to blame someone else for their faults) and work nonstop until you become the ideal version of yourself. Yes I know it's easier said then done but we have many members in this forum who have done or are doing it!

 

[Gamisch]

Men in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the United States have been looking to Eastern Europe, Asia, and Latin America since the 1990s-2000s. I remember hearing about international travel for mating purposes when I was young adult in the 2000s.

The thing that has changed since the 2000s is that more men realized that they have to stay over in that traditional culture nation. In the 2000s, I heard more men taking their Eastern European/Asian/Latin American woman back to the Western home country. Since then, guidance has been provided to men that the idea of bringing a non-Western woman to the West is a bad idea because the non-Western woman will start to become Westernized. That often dooms the relationship.

It's better to find women where you are located. This whole passport bro bs should be the ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT. It's as bad as relying on hookers.

What makes you think you will have more success with a woman who grew up in much harder conditions, where men are also much tougher? It's a shot in the dark.