Want to know why most "hot" guys here get no action?

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"YOU HAVE TO APPROACH GIRLS, THEY RARELY APPROACH YOU!
Good looking guys think that just because they are good looking they will get girls, and they can just wait rather than approach and possibly be rejected. The truth is you will wait forever to get a girlfriend this way. Trust me I know"

Being good looking worked against me. I can totally relate to what Joe the Homophobe says. Here's why.

I received a lot of attention from girls at a younger age. In my reality, girls pursued me and it wasn't the other way around. I had two long term relationships and in each one, the girl pursued me. Eventually the second long term relationship ended and after that, I had a loooooooooong dry spell. I hold the record for the longest dry spell for a good looking guy. Many below average girls wanted to hook up with me during my dry spell period but I paid no attention to them. Afterall, I was good looking and thought that a hottie would come knocking on my door. After years of waiting for that knock on my door that never occured , it finally hit me: I have to approach girls and make things happen. (by the way, i didn't realize this on my own but by accident; that's a different story in itself though and this is aleady getting too long)
My good looks actually worked against me because at a young age, I was conditioned not to pursue girls because they were already pursuing me. Young average guys who aren't pursued by girls learn at an early age what Joe the Homophobe has to say, "You have to approach the girls...yada yada" and thus that's the reason I believe the more average guys are more successful than the "hot" and "fine" guys. Average guys realize at a young age that their dream girl won't come knocking on their doors...and so they know to take action.
I already pointed out the main thing I had to say. But since I'm on a roll I'll continue.
I also hold the world record for most rejections earned by a "fine" "hot" guy (not to brag, but this is how many girls describe me). I started taking action since no one was knocking on my door. But I limited myself and tried to hook up only with girls I knew of through acquaintances (since I didn't know how to cold approach nor did I have the balls to do so). After a date or two, I would always get dropped. I was confused. "I'm a good looking guy," I thought, "Why am I getting more rejections than a smelly old nasty fart at an eighteen and over club." You may be a "hot" "fine" guy like me, but if you don't have the right attitude, you''ll only get below average / average girls.
Fast forward a few years, after literally going through hundreds of hours of dating/self-help material, I've improved myself greatly (that too is a totally different story in itself) I've stuck with certain schools of thought for a while (I don't want to advertise anyone's products).
After hanging out with this cutie for some time, she told me she was "mesmerized" by my looks when she first saw me. She said her first impression of me was that I was a big time player due to the good looks and slick attitude combination. She pointed out that it wasn't necessary for me to have been so "slick" and that I should have simply let my looks do the work for me. She may have been right, but would we have hooked up at all if I didn't approach her in the manner that I did? I wanted to find out. So I modified my way with girls. I started approaching girls with the mentality "have my looks work for me" and I dropped most of the techniques and methods I was using. Surprisingly, I had great success with that approach.
If you're a good looking guy, work on your body language, voice tone, and develop the right attitute. After you've improved in these areas, you can simply let your looks work for you to pull the girls. From my experience, it wasn't necessary to bust on women(although this works, but you'll come across as a big time player). Just improve on the areas mentioned and have your looks work for you.
 

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ah, DJ theory at its fvcking finest

I cannot believe sh1t like this still gets posted
 

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Alot of guys here kind of assume that knowing you're good looking, fun to be with and smart actually have to mean you are picky and stuck-up...

What if i said that isn't true for me at all. I do not only go after HB's. In fact i don't disqualify any woman i'm attrackted to on objective beauty ratings. The last woman i had a LTR with wasn't a hot baby at all. She was simply average, but i felt attrackted to her so i wen't for it. I'll go even further and say that i am not generally speaking attrackted to the objective beauty ideals. Sure an HB9 looks great...but generally there is no spark, no chemistry.

I don't think i'm stuck up either. I just know what my league is, simple as that. And that doesn't mean i date only in my league (objectivly speaking).

The point is that even though i know i 'could' play in a high league, women give me a hard time. They are jumpy and suspicious and often feel the need to inform me in a subtle way that they aren't the type of girl to sleep with just anyone.

Woman in my life with whom i maintain friendship relationships have commented that i look like a mafioso or a bad boy (but i'm really not) and my guess is that that's the reason why women put their shields up around me. It's kind of a pain in the ass.

Even guys who i'm friends with, but who don't know my dating routines always assume i have lots of women. It simply isn't true and while i do 'ok', i get dry spells all the time.

It can't be my attitude either because i really don't act like a player or a PUA, i don't make enough approaches for that and actually i generally date with the mindset that something more long term 'could' develop, provided that all the elements are there to support that.

So yeah, what gives? I've gone from an AFC to RAFC to DJ and every step of the way i was deemed a player at first impression. Well either that or, couple years ago, a chumb. Looking back that was actually positive in a way since now i just get branded a player 100% of the time :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, there is one way i slip out of the player brandname. That's when i meet someone through introduction by a mutual friend. And even then i'm subject to an indepth background check behind my back and if i so happen to be dating someone else at the time aswell they burn me with the player stuff again.
 

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Re: Beautiful people have the easiest time

Originally posted by swampwiz
There is no way you are going to tell me that, all things being equal, that a beautiful person will have a harder time attracting romantic partners than a less beautiful person (with beauty measured in the eyes of the partner, of course.)

When I see an HB9 or HB10, I try to talk to her and detect IL, and then go for the pickup if I can. The problem I see is that such high level women is that they never seem to be without a partner (date, boyfriend, husband), or at least a bunch of male admirers.

The HB8 woman is easier to pick up because she is not as much in demand as the HB10. For high quality men like myself, we are always very attracted to the HB10, but we are only somewhat attracted to he HB8. We will go out of our way to take a shot at the HB10. We will accept the HB8, but only if it seems that there are other qualities in her that make her deserve as much attention as the HB10.
Thats not what I said, they will actually have an easier time attracting partners, but they still need to do the same amount of work as average guys to get the girl. Like I said, most girls here will never initiate the approach.

Out of curiosity does anyone know if women are like this in other countries? I have heard that in European, Latin countries, women are more straightforward of what they want and they openly express it....is this true and if so where specifically and how do they specifically act??
 

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You dream...

They act the same way as the women you know act. They stand around and do nothing but maybe hold your EC for a moment or return a smile, everything else is upto you.

The day a woman approaches a man is the day a miracle happens, the day you see results of feminist conditioning or female hormones gone haywire...
 

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Originally posted by Socialreject
The day a woman approaches a man is the day a miracle happens, the day you see results of feminist conditioning or female hormones gone haywire...
I'm one of the few that has experienced one of these so-called miracles. But there was usually one tiny little catch...DISCOVERING THAT SHE'S JUST A FRIGGIN C*CK WH*RE AND COMPLETE PSYCHOPATH!
 

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For a woman, the best sex for her is when she is passionate for a guy. She knows this (especially the attractive ones). If you're chasing and going after her, it doesn't give her any reason to act on her feelings other than she just could when convenient. If she is passionate for you, this is what makes the difference for her in terms of a connection.

If you're a guy she really finds attractive, then it can really work for or against you. I don't think it's ever in the middle when both people really like each other from day one. Creating that good tension between you is the best thing you can do to kick-start a very good relationship, if not with the woman you marry because it has longevity and long lasting potential.
 

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Great post, i agree.

I believe looks can work for or against you.

It's funny really that a lot of women play the aloof act or attempt to be distant with you just cause they fear any form or rejection.

I mean it's already started, there are a couple of girls in my classes who im usually friendly and cool with. But for every class with them if i dont say hi, we wont talk at all for the whole class. For example in one of my other classes im doing my own thing, reading the paper or talking to friends, etc....the girl wont even say hi...i can tell she wants me to talk to her, glances and stuff but i dont really care. It's good and bad i guess, we can be all friendly or not on my terms not theirs.

The assumptions and stereotypes made of attractive ppl are dumb really....well that's what modern day world was born into..fashion and all nonsense...read the book by it's cover.
If i get even a slightest hint that theyre intimidated by me, they usually alienate me, a form of defense mechanism to avoid attachment and rejection. I've been through it all my life and continue to do so but learn to live with it.

But i think some people find the idea of being rejected by someone good looking harder to accept compared to someone average, i mean who doesnt want to be around good looking ppl?
 
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The only reason an attractive guy wouldnt get any would be because he doesnt do **** and doesnt know how things go. Evidently i should have numerous girls that are easily 9s. Ive had a few girls that ive done stuff with call me a player just because of the way i look. One girl thought i just wanted some ass, which was true, but still its annoying sh*t
 

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Teach me how to configure sosuave's php forum to my subscription requirement standards and I wouldn't have to post anything in this space
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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IF you really are REALLY GOOD LOOKING by john_1234

Originally posted by john_1234

If you're a good looking guy, work on your body language, voice tone, and develop the right attitute. After you've improved in these areas, you can simply let your looks work for you to pull the girls. From my experience, it wasn't necessary to bust on women(although this works, but you'll come across as a big time player). Just improve on the areas mentioned and have your looks work for you. [/B]
ah yes this holds true.
 

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Instead of saying this happens to me because I'm attractive (very subjective) I'd say this happens when a particular girl is attracted to me. Isn't that it really? This is how women behave when they are attracted to you. When they aren't, or it isn't that strong they can make EC and talk to you like a normal person right?
 

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beauty is really subjective, so i think you should understand immediately how a person (guy or girl doesn't matter) perceives you and tune your ego basing upon his/her perception of you.
 

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Well for attracting women I agree. I can rely on my looks, height and dress sense to pull women without really trying, but when it comes to progressing past the initial physical attraction, it doesn't work like that at all.
 

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I agree with Jariel, it takes more than just that, it's just the start.
 

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yeah, if your good looking(like me) then it helps,
you still have to have some game though, the goodlooking guys would not be here if it was different.
i think, the c&f works great, theres no need to try all those weird mind tricks though, theres no need for that.

just be, social, charming, confident, your gonna get some game!
 

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Yes, women do occasionally approach guys, but its pretty rare, even if you are hot. You really have to be a celebrity of sorts (or peacocked) to get approached consistently.

Most of my relationships, after we have been together for a spell, we talk about that first night a little and they always say the same thing. "I thought you were really hot and I wanted you to come and talk to me so bad" I would then ask, would you have come up to me, and they say "oh, no, never, but I was really hoping you would" Almost all said they thought I was too good for them and would reject them. I am above average in looks, but hardly the type who really stands out.

Read a women's magazine, a message board, a blog, a how-to book on relationships aimed at women. Most don't even consider approaching a guy to be an option. There are whole chapters, entire books on how women can make themselves approachable, how they can position themselves, dress, act, etc. to get approached, but its hard to find anything even suggesting women approach men.

If you realized the number of hot women you have probably lost in your life to approach anxiety it would probably make you want to vomit. I know it makes me sick just thinking of it.
 

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the thing I don't get with all these "good-looking" threads is that y'all don't understand that we are all good-looking, just to different women. people keep saying beauty is subjective, but you guys really get it? i mean, sure you get the side of, we don't all find the same women attractive. but just flip that...the same women don't find us attractive either. or atleast, you know how you get a gut feeling when a girl wants you and you want her? well, i'm pretty sure women get that feeling too. we're all people, mostly with the same biological drives; and the biggest problems we face are due to imaginary boundaries and limits created by society and media, and hence result in us not seeing the bigger picture.

even the most butt-ugly dude is sure to match with the most butt-ugly woman. it's his problem for having a big ego and wanting to land pamela anderson look-a-likes. and it's her problem for wanting brad pitt. but fact of the reality is, they were made for each other. and until they realize that, they can keep dreaming/wishing and keep on getting no play.

in fact, i think there's been a lot of good-looking and appearance-related threads lately.

the problem is that on this site, some try to refute darwinism and survival of the fittest.

you must accept that you will not get what you think are the hottest chicks. why do you think they are the hottest chicks??? because society and media has brainwashed you to believe that carmen electra or etc is really really hot.

who gives a sh!t because none of those girls are YOUR hb9s. everyone has potential mates, and people that will be mutually attracted to them. i think in essence, a real dj, should be one who can see that. not one who hopelessly puts in effort to get the trophy girl who everyone thinks is hot, but rather recognizes when girls are attracted to him and pursues those options.

you can't possibly thinking that butt-ugly dudes will be landing hotties...it's an exception, a very rare one at that. looks do matter.

your mind and inner game/beliefs can allow you to reach your potential peak of attraction ability, which is a combination of physical and mental energy. still, my hb9 is very different from your hb9...and our individual belief what an hb9 should not be the same. even when we each achieve our mating potential, i may be with a girl you'd call ugly, but to me, it would be the highest potential i can reach. self-limiting? i'd say no, because you have to accept reality and what you were born with.

true some guys here are models, but not all of us/you who claim to be good-looking are. i actually think a big portion of the guys who claim to be good-looking do so to save their own egos, or as an excuse. to say "we" must act differently or in general require different game, is pure bullsh!t. everyone must act their part, and not fake a personality. even if you truly are a jerk inside, don't be a nice guy then, it may serve you better. listen to what drives you, that inner tick...not everyone is the same, and we all have something we are great at, unique personalities, so to define general boundaries for "good-looking" guys doesn't even make sense, because we don't even know who here is or is not good-looking and to which / what women.

there's too many variables and ambiguities, and too much vague gray area that's unexplained to be setting rules for what to do and not to do. just follow your heart and soul.

my hb9 consists of a cute face, without much makeup, decent curves, and a great personality. physical attraction alone, she'd get an hb7-8 from most of you guys...but she wasn't meant for you. and i wasn't meant for your girls either.

did you guys read the truth about women? again, some guys will be banging the hotter chicks, some the uglier ones. we all have our place. be realistic. you can't deny evolution and survival.

i wrote this in a tip a while back...and it deserves reiteration: for you to succeed, others must fail. for others to succeed, you must fail. we don't all succeed and fail the same way at the same things. and even this depends on your beliefs of success and failure, which are not set in stone...

beauty is subjective, and you have to understand that what you've been believing is beauty all along may actually not be so true to yourself.

a rant, you may think so, but i think it's quite relevant. and heck, reading it over makes myself less sure of anything i just said, but it does make sense.

so all in all, my point is forget what you can't explain, just let loose and follow your heart.

and read my signature...
 

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
If you realized the number of hot women you have probably lost in your life to approach anxiety it would probably make you want to vomit. I know it makes me sick just thinking of it.
Yea, i thought about this last night. I wanted to destroy things.
 

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Advice from a female:

Women do not like aholes and jerks. Men who jerk women around get played. Jerks and aholes are the reason why women cheat or lie.

Act and look like an ahole (look confident) but BE NICE. That means be polite, respectful, courteous, and show manners.
 
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