JAYLAN, first of all, put an age on your profile if you wish to continue posting in the Mature forum. Read the rules stickied at the top of the forum.
Next, have a read of my post here:
http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/women-sex/
You also might want to read
The Myth of Sexual Peak.
The problem with studies like these is that they rely on subjective analysis and correlative self-reporting by participants. Relative enjoyment of sex may be a motivator to initiate sex, but the only reliable means in determining any motivation is in analyzing behaviors and empirical means of studying physical and chemical prompts that predict that behavior.
Wait wait, so how is the male opinion provided in two blogs I have seen ages age, more valid than a study that gathers information straight from the source...the female male and body?
Please re read what I said. Peak is not just about physio-hormonal stuff in the body with women. Its a bunch of other things too. And as the studies and zekko first said. Body image, emotions, and experience are a big factor in that. Now if girls had a great body image and a wealth of experience in their 20s, we could call that their peak. But as it stands, women in their 30s have the most sex of their life, the most orgasms, and the least sexual dysfunction.
Id say that equates to a peak over other decades
Some statistical facts I should add to this analysis:
Women masturbate less, fantasize about sex less frequently, and initiate sex less often than men.
Women report low sexual desire much more often than men.
Among medical professionals who treat sexual disorders, low female desire is the single most common complaint.
In women, desire is much less likely to initiate orgasm-seeking behavior.
Women are much more likely than men to pursue sex for reasons other than sexual pleasure.
Women are more likely to report low desire as a result of relationship difficulties.
Take that for what it’s worth, but even with simple statistics it’s pretty evident that women’s sex impulse is not comparable to men’s.
Read what I said again. I called women sexual beings on par with men because of their sheer enjoyment and intensity of orgasm during sex. And partly because of them turning into sex maniacs in their 30s.
If you read the studies I provided in full(though I know it takes time), or other studies you found on your own, besides going on your own opinion, youd see sex drive does not have anything to do with enjoyment or orgasmic intensity. Sure men want sex a lot, but what women lack in frequency they make up for in intensity.
You gonna tell me the female orgasm is not stronger than a males? Or do I need to provide studies for that too....any man worth his weight in the sack knows women are sexual beings and quite the powerful cummers. Thats all Ive been saying
Critics of this observation like to argue that, for female sexual response and arousal, testosterone isn’t the only factor to consider. To which I’ll agree, however it is the
PRIMARY factor in sexual response. A woman cannot possibly understand what 12 to 17 times their present amount of consistent testosterone could feel like without steroid use. In fact the first effect female bodybuilder report when cycling anabolic steroids is a 100 fold increase in sexual interest and libido. So in terms of natural female hormonal / biochemical response there is no unaltered way a woman could ever make an accurate comparison to what a man’s baseline libido is in relation to her own. Women’s sexual desire is also cyclical. Even at the peak of her ovulatory cycle, when she’s at her horniest, she’ll never experience what men do 24 hours a day.
Your point? Many other things still factor into a womens sex drive. Why are we still stuck on this testosterone thing? I addressed this. I never said womens sex drive was equal to ours, yet its like you guys wanna throw that in my mouth. Men and women are sexual beings to differing degrees and because of different reasonings.
This is the social convention older women want men to believe in order to establish terms for long term provisioning for women well after their peak fertility window (30+) has passed and they are less able to compete in the sexual marketplace with women in their peak fertility window (18-24).
Social convention? No this is not some conspiracy for women to secure a mate. Its simply that by 30+ women know everything they like, have the confidence, and usually have the emotional bond of marriage that pushes more sex. Read the study, makes sense.
What you're perpetuating here is the myth of the biological clock. While it may be true that women have a neurological/hormonal predisposition towards maternal instincts what's at issue here is what period in a woman's life it manifests itself. Biologically this evolved to coincide with a woman's peak fertility window (18-24).
Peak genital potential is not the same as peak sexuality. At least not for women. In men, because of ALL that testosterone we talk about, and because we get so obsessed with sex, obviously our late teens to late 20s is our peak
But women dont have this same drive, and because of this dont know their bodies the way we know ours at a young age, so you cant judge peak in the same way. For everything that you guys are saying to point out the difference in men and women, which I am too, you also have to judge them on a different scale with different methods.
Considering life expectancies determined by our environmental conditions when this window evolved makes perfect sense. A woman in the 1800s having a child at 30-35 y.o. was often a death sentence. In prior eras it would've been laughable to consider a 30+ woman a viable sexual consideration. Yet in 2011 we have a social convention that intends to place this demographic as a primary breeding age, a sexual peak. Why would that be?
Im not talking about peak genital workings or best years for procreation.
I am simply talking about peak years for straight primal sex. Because society has changed greatly over the years, and other things factor into a womens sexuality besides just hormones, this age is different then prime baby making years.
Because the social convention's latent purpose is to level the sexual market playing field for women who provably, progressively, lose their capacity to compete with women in their prime breeding years (18-24) for the long term provisioning of acceptable men. Only over the course of the past 60 years,since the sexual revolution, has any woman really considered the idea of sexual peak. This social convention only makes sense from the perspective of women who've past their sexual market expiration date and feel an increasing desperation to lock down the financial and emotional security they missed before they hit the Wall. So like any competitor losing the ability to maintain their past levels of performance, they attempt to change the game to better fit their capacity.
Social conventions latent purpose? Thats your opinion guy. I could say the social conventions purpose is to make it seem that as guys age, they are still top dogs, that guys in their 40s are more desired sexually then men in their 20s simply because of the resources they provide.
That would be false from a purely sexual stand point because women dont make purely sexual decisions most of the time.
And you take about things changing over the last 60 years. Well over the last 60 years, the western world has become less stuck up about sex and less oppressive sexually to women. So we keep finding new things out, pioneered by guys like Alfred Kinsey. I much prefer todays women sexually expressing themselves than any time periods before this
. This I think is key. Sex was a right that ALL men could avail themselves of with ease.
