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Danger said:
I don't care what men do, I do not date men.

Men are not Women. Women are not Men. Look around you, what is the ratio of the following and report back...

  1. Older Men dating Younger Women
  2. Older Women dating Younger Men
The frequency is higher for older men dating older women because those relationships tend to only be based on sex. The older women dating younger men relationships are generally only about sex too, but women dont want ONLY sex a lot of the time. So why would they go after a young 20 something who usually is not as mature as them. So I dont see the point you are trying to make.

Danger said:
And for what's it's worth, I'm engaged to a gorgeous doctor who dotes on me and follows my lead on everything. My attitude is perfectly fine for number 1, Me.
Great for you I guess *shrugs*

Danger said:
Who shames women for wanting commitment? It's the oh-so-convenient timing on the "transformation" from ho to housewife at the magical age of 30 that I am talking about.
DO YOU READ THIS FORUM. Guys hate on girls wanting commitment all the time, in here and in real life. Because it keeps them from having some variety in their sex life.

And about the magical age of 30. MEN DO THIS TOO. People nowadays wanna experiment and have fun before they settle down around 30. I am doing the same thing. Women will shame me and guys like me for it, the same way guys shame girls who do it. Its whatever.

Danger said:
Again, they can date who they want to date, but when they start shaming men in their 30's who in turn date who they want to date, then we have a problem. I have no qualms about laughing in the face of such wh0res right after I have dumped my load in them.

If you want to commit to such a woman, feel free. But I will not.
The only women and men shaming folks dating in their 30s are bitter folks or people who dont have anyone to date. There are plenty of women laughing at single guys who complain the same way guys here laugh at bitter gals. It is what it is.

I wont commit to a bitter woman, but I have no issue dating a girl whos had her fun just like I am having my fun now. Why am I gonna hate? I do it too.


Danger said:
It is a very rare woman who is in a dry spell. Most Women are fvcking some guy, whether a bf or not. They just do not advertise it.
Untrue. There are plenty of chicks with voluntary dry spells because they dont like just hooking up. Talk to some chicks, and no not every girl lies about this.

Try talking to a bi girl actually, because they tend to be the most open about their sex life and uncaring of a guys opinion regarding what they do.

Danger said:
A veiled insult. I had plenty of power in my teens and early 20's. Went off the map for my mid 20's and even AFC while I built my future. Guys working three jobs and going to school while studying investing are not exciting. So suddenly girls were not interested. Fast forward a few years of success and suddenly I'm a top commodity again. Just cements more in my mind on how women operate. Nothing to hate, but then, neither should my pleasure at 30 something wh0res panicking be a cause for hate, right?
How the hell is that a veiled insult? A lot guys in their 20s dont have their crap together regarding their women skills. Practice makes perfect. Im not the first person to say this either about guys in their 20s. You see it on the forum all the time. If you wanna see it as an insult just so you can argue with me, so be it.

Trust me, like attracts like. I have seen the nerdy book smart, studious girls date guys just like how you were in school. You spiteful attitude is full of lolz though. I dont see why you should care that some women in their 30s are panicking. How the hell do any of you know she used to be a hot girl who was a b!tch in her 20s.

Some of these chicks actually just wanna find the one for them so they dont make a mistake and hurt someone including themselves with a divorce from a bad marriage. All it would do is create more bitter guys to run to this site. This is exactly why I dont wanna settle down till I have sowed wild oats and am 30. I dont want to hurt anyone. Of course some folks dont believe this.

Danger said:
Does it make me "cry" in your words? Hell no, but I have been on the Alpha side and the Beta side as well. I have no problems playing women as they would play others. Now if that makes you cry, then that is your problem.
Why would I cry? Do you homie.

Danger said:
You are asserting that PUA's created our feminized society today?

You are asserting that PUA's caused the entitlement attitude of young girls today?
I said men caused this as a whole, and the PUA movement perpetuates it even more with some of its beliefs and behavior.

Danger said:
I agree that too many guys put up with BS from girls just because they are hot. It is a huge stretch to say that is a result of the PUA community. Women did such things long before the community arrived on-scene.
Read what I just said above this. Again, the way PUAs view women doesnt make the situation better for any of us.

Danger said:
Do you honestly feel that Men have the most power in Western Civilization? If so, then give examples of such power. I personally do not see it.
Who are the CEOs, President, Political Reps, Millionaires, and Billionaires mostly? They arent mostly women. I will tell you that much. And money = power in the west. End of story.


Danger said:
It sure is convenient that a fair chunk of women find their "soul-mate" right before they hit the wall looks-wise, isn't it? Must be a coincidence.
Its convenient for anyone to find a soulmate at that age. Thats when men AND women start going down hill. 30. I wish I could stay young and cute in my 20s forever. I would always have a greater chance of scoring a young hot babe.



Danger said:
Again, you are a Man. You are not a Woman. Most Women do not care how many girls their man has slept with, as long as he is Alpha.

Most Men don't want the town ride. They DO care how much their girl got around.

There is a very key difference here.



Again, Women are not Men, Men are not Women.
Maybe you need to really talk to women more. I have had girls turn me down because they thought I was a man *****. In a world of STDs noone wants a ***** of a mate.


Danger said:
I call bull$hit here. I highly doubt a lot of men were "beating women" back then. The cheating went both ways as well.
Lol you sure about that? Domestic violence often went unreported back in the day, but believe what you want. And yes the cheating went both ways, but men did it WAY more. Women were ALWAYS home usually, and had much more to lose if they did screw up.


Danger said:
I see nothing wrong with it either, again, as long as they are willing to accept the consequences. I do not want to buy a used up hole at the ripe age of 35 that others got younger, hotter, tighter for free.

Is that something you really want to do?
You act like any attractive woman couldnt say the same thing. Its not like a girl who takes care of herself in automatically unattractive when shes 35. She could easily find a young guy to screw for a while and then some dude to settle for if she wanted. Men and women do this all the time.

At the end of the day, you think guys who are going after younger girls are really gonna end up happily dating those girls for a long time? There comes a point when we all settle down, and when that point comes, young folk arent really trying to do that with older folk. So there are both men and women who do stupid stuff when young and who also settle when older.



Danger said:
Men are not Women, Women are not Men. There is no whining here either. I do great with women. But I will not settle for a wh0re, I disdain them, and frankly I find it absolutely insulting that they would actually think I want to commit to their shriveled vag just before they start to fall apart. Particularly when I can get the young, hot, tight, baggage-free non-wh0re.

Dude, I agree with hitting as many as you can if you are just renting the pu$$y, but if you are buying it? Buy smart, don't get the used up slags.
Like I said, no one wants to have someone who is just settling for them after they slutted up the town. That goes for both men and women.
 

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Danger said:
Your original post below regarding your assertations do not specifically reference your links. You reference "Peak", but not why they are "sexual". If you want to play word games, then yes, let us play.

So again, instead of wasting another of your posts in dodging the question.....please cite exactly what in these studies you found that say women are "as sexual" as men.
I am not dodging. I am just not your teacher. If you cannot go back and read a post two clicks away then you are indeed a waste of my time. I am not going to continually repeat myself when I have stated my position several times in this thread. Go to page 2 and 3 and actually read.

Danger said:
For your second question, your statements below were insulting in that they were rude and condescending. A clear indication that I had hit a nerve somewhere.
Wait wait. So you call my responses rude and condescending when I was merely responding in the same manner as you? Was it not said that young girls would be screwed, and giving me the leftovers when they were used up?

Yeah my response to that statement was super horrible :rolleyes: How about you read what was said to me FIRST before passing judgement bro. I give what I receive.

And forgive me for pointing out the typical linking of a blog as evidence of something on this forum. I didnt know sarcasm could strike such a cord with someone, especially when it was very matter-of-fact sarcasm. Again, why you mad? Your attitude towards me was not very saintly to begin with
 

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Jaylan said:
Um. I wouldnt say sex symbols anymore. They are still considered sexy for their age, but not sex symbols as some older guys still try to assert.
Daniel Craig has only been James Bond for five years.
George Clooney is dating Stacey Kiebler NOW, after dumping his model girlfriend earlier in the year. I'd say his age isn't hurting him any.

Johnny Depp won People's Sexiest Man Alive just last year. This year's winner, Ryan Reynolds, is 34. And while I admit this is a rather contrived award, you have to go back to 1990 to find a winner who was under 30 (Tom Cruise at 28).

I understand, however, that you at 25, are mainly only interested in youth culture. There's nothing wrong with that, but be assured that life does go on after 25, and after 30, and even after 40.
 

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zekko said:
Daniel Craig has only been James Bond for five years.
George Clooney is dating Stacey Kiebler NOW, after dumping his model girlfriend earlier in the year. I'd say his age isn't hurting him any.
An over 30 stacey kiebler? Meh shes not in prime form compared to the likes of Kim K who is her age.

All I am saying is older guys are not the standard of beauty. Youth always will be.

And there are older women dating younger in hollywood. Jennifer Aniston, Demi Moore, Lisa Bonest(cosby show) is married to Jason Momoa of the new Conan the Barbarian movie, 11 years older than him. Its like people here either casually forget, or simply dismiss that plenty of older women are dating younger men.

A lot of folks just love to hate on it too. And before anyone decides to think "ew they can have those older gals, ill keep the hotter young ones"...think about the fact that a lot of the young hot girl crowd say "ewww" or say "creepy" about over 30s guys they see when they go out clubbing or bar hopping. From afar young folks will acknowledge an older persons attractiveness, but for some reason when its brought to their face they react differently. I know ive seen attractive older women when ive gone out, but most of the time I find it odd that they are in a young crowd, and I then I go after the young gals. Girls will more often than not do this too

I can give other examples too of older women dating young in "hollywood" if anyone likes. Men and women are dating older and younger nowadays but on average most people date folks within their age group. Hollywood starlets are exceptions to the rule because of their status and beauty. They have the cash to prolong their attractiveness too.
zekko said:
Johnny Depp won People's Sexiest Man Alive just last year. This year's winner, Ryan Reynolds, is 34. And while I admit this is a rather contrived award, you have to go back to 1990 to find a winner who was under 30 (Tom Cruise at 28).
People magazine? really? Women are not the only ones voting in those thing. There is also gay dudes and your typical entertainment industry folks. That doesnt disprove what I said about who young hot women find attractive the most. Girls will tell you that those guys were more attractive in their 20s. But thats not to say they arent attractive now.

Look at a lot of the girls in the askmen.com top 99 or other magazines and websites. Plenty of over 30 gals. Hell I was surprised at the number of over 25 women who were in the SI swimsuit edition this year and who are Victoria Secret Angels. Basically all I am saying is that the mantra of the PUA community picks and chooses what info to pay attention to a lot of the time.
zekko said:
I understand, however, that you at 25, are mainly only interested in youth culture. There's nothing wrong with that, but be assured that life does go on after 25, and after 30, and even after 40.
I never said life didnt go on. You see me post all the time, and should know I dont fall in line with that sort of thinking. I usually just try to bring it to the attention of the older men who are dogging older women, that just as they say younger women are more aesthetically pleasing to men, so are youthful(yet mature) looking men to women. I do in fact think men and women can be damn sexy in their 30s and 40s, and for the elite, their 50s. However that doesnt change the fact that the 20s is the prime decade for both sexes. And it doesnt change the fact that people tend to be their sexiest in their 20s and 30s.

I say trailing close behind are the teens and the 40s age bracket. But I dont think those decades can compete as much because in the teen bracket, many people have not finished growing or looking like mature adults until their early 20s, and in the 40s bracket adults are starting to age at a more accelerated pace and/or stop taking care of themselves as much as they used to.
 

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Danger said:
[*]You have yet to repeat yourself as you have yet to post what I am asking.
Dude I told you. Pages 2 and 3 have the answer to what you have been asking me. Quit being lazy and read the thread. Its plain as day. I am not going to repeat myself to appease your stubborn self.

Danger said:
[*]I suggest you look at something, for some reason that pisses you off.
It did not piss me off. I simply made a quip about how your reading suggestion was not worth much in my opinion.

Danger said:
[*]Who said I'm mad? You are the one continually throwing insults.
Insults? Dude you are the one who wants to interpret quips, sarcasm, and blunt responses as insults. If those are insults then you need to grow a thicker skin bro.

And you need to stop glossing over the fact that you were in the fact the first one to get rude in our exchange.
Danger said:
[*]Anyone here can tell you that you threw off the handle first. Several posters now are pointing out that you have a serious ego-investment in your argument.
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I went off the handle? Please quote me and explain how you can tell I was going off the handle. I made a mildly sarcastic statement and you were so offended that you took it as this tantamount display of anger. Gimme a break

Dont speak about ego investment when you continue this exchange with me as well and refuse to properly read anything I have written regarding my position. You simply continue to try steer the discussion onto the topic of my tone when responding, when this discussion is not about that.

If you cannot stay on point, I will not be responding to you further.

Please pay attention to how Rollo and Zekko have been addressing me. Though we disagree with one another, the conversation flows smoothly and points are given back and forth to one another, minus the derailments. I am sure if I began insulting anyone, Rollo, as a mod, would have brought it to my attention immediately.

I dont mind a debate or someone telling me Im wrong, but stay on topic.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

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Danger said:
Jaylan,

Your entire argument against my assertations are....

  1. Men do it too.
  2. Only people that don't do well with women say such things.
  3. Most positions of power are held by Men.


My answers to those are....

  1. Men are not Women, stop equating them.
  2. Your shaming attempt fails, as I do well with Women BECAUSE I have the knowledge to say such things.
  3. Positions of Power held by Men does not mean Men as a whole hold the power.

If you want to commit to a wh0re at 30 or 40 or even 50 because you "connect" or because they are "sexual" or "peaking", then by all means go ahead. I do not care.

I laugh at the notion of men committing to such creatures. I use them for what I think they are, and you can go ahead and marry them if that's what you think they are worth, isn't that easy? I am not sure why you are so worked up over that.

I have committed to a great woman that did not decide to ride on the c0ck carousel, which is exactly one of the reasons I chose her. The sex is just as good as it was for the myriad of women I have slept with over the years regardless of how much they were allegedly "peaking".

Our values are different. You seem to have a huge problem with that. But that's just it, it is your problem.
Don't waste your breath. Some people just can never grasp the concept that men =/= women and vice versa.

Jaylan said:
An over 30 stacey kiebler? Meh shes not in prime form compared to the likes of Kim K who is her age.

All I am saying is older guys are not the standard of beauty. Youth always will be.

And there are older women dating younger in hollywood. Jennifer Aniston, Demi Moore, Lisa Bonest(cosby show) is married to Jason Momoa of the new Conan the Barbarian movie, 11 years older than him. Its like people here either casually forget, or simply dismiss that plenty of older women are dating younger men.

A lot of folks just love to hate on it too. And before anyone decides to think "ew they can have those older gals, ill keep the hotter young ones"...think about the fact that a lot of the young hot girl crowd say "ewww" or say "creepy" about over 30s guys they see when they go out clubbing or bar hopping. From afar young folks will acknowledge an older persons attractiveness, but for some reason when its brought to their face they react differently. I know ive seen attractive older women when ive gone out, but most of the time I find it odd that they are in a young crowd, and I then I go after the young gals. Girls will more often than not do this too

I can give other examples too of older women dating young in "hollywood" if anyone likes. Men and women are dating older and younger nowadays but on average most people date folks within their age group. Hollywood starlets are exceptions to the rule because of their status and beauty. They have the cash to prolong their attractiveness too.
Here you go ya fvcking retard. Attractiveness for both men AND women are not the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoKA-a5vEEc

Older women coupling with younger men just might not be the best idea. And NO it doesn't apply to men as well. Here's why...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/may/12/marrying-younger-man-woman-mortality

Here's to your "women are just as sexual as men" myth. There's been a study regarding gay and lesbian couples referring to frequency of sex and promiscuity. The results were not surprising at all to tell you the truth. I don't feel like doing a search so go find it yourself.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1970975,00.html

How come most of these studies don't get enough media attention and get swept under the rug?

I expect you to siege the forum again with a plethora of mainstream GROUP THINK aka bull****. Everything isn't a double standard or a conspiracy against women you know?

But to stay on topic the old timers had it right all along. Pump and dump when it comes down to sluts/town *****s and marry the virgins.
 
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Jaylan said:
An over 30 stacey kiebler? Meh shes not in prime form compared to the likes of Kim K who is her age.
Honestly, I don't get that excited over Stacy Kiebler either. But that's mostly because she's mainly been known for her long legs, and I don't like tall women. She's pretty in the face though. And she is 28 years younger than Clooney!

Anyway, you being 25, 32 probably seems old to you (just like it seems young to me). It's all relative.

Jaylan said:
A lot of folks just love to hate on it too. And before anyone decides to think "ew they can have those older gals, ill keep the hotter young ones"...
I have no problem with anyone dating anyone, regardless of age. I've never thought it mattered much.
I also have no problem with "older women". My girlfriend is 36 (she was 28 when we started dating), I still find her attractive.

Jaylan said:
think about the fact that a lot of the young hot girl crowd say "ewww" or say "creepy" about over 30s guys they see when they go out clubbing or bar hopping
Some people are hung up on age. But I bet if the right 32 year old guy came along, some of those hot young girls might sing a different tune.
I hope when you get to be in your 30s, you're not going to be one of these guys who suddenly think they can't date younger girls or you'll be seen as "creepy".

Having said that, and this is just a personal thing, I think that by the time you're in your 30s you ought to have better things to do with your time than hanging out in clubs. YMMV, of course.

Jaylan said:
I do in fact think men and women can be damn sexy in their 30s and 40s, and for the elite, their 50s. However that doesnt change the fact that the 20s is the prime decade for both sexes. And it doesnt change the fact that people tend to be their sexiest in their 20s and 30s.
I agree men are at their physical peak in their 20s.
But there are a lot of guys here who will testify that their sexual value went up when they turned 30 - that things got a lot better for them. I also experienced this, so I can't dismiss it.

Bottom line: Aging damages a woman's attractiveness at a much higher rate than a man's. And at a faster rate as well. Generally speaking, of course.
 

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C-quenced said:
Don't waste your breath. Some people just can never grasp the concept that men =/= women and vice versa.



Here you go ya fvcking retard. Attractiveness for both men AND women are not the same.
First off, I never said they were the exactly the same. I said that, all in all, youth is attractive to humans in general. It just matters more to men than women. That does not mean women dont appreciate a youthful man and seek him. Learn to read with comprehension.

Secondly, once I saw that you began your response with an emotionally charged insult, I decided that it was a waste of time to even finish reading your response and debate with you.

Your behavior in the past, as well as right now, has shown me this: you are someone who cannot have a conversation like a rational adult, thus you lash out with emotional insults. Someone who must insult someone when getting their point across is obviously the one with the ego investment, not myself as some of you try to say.

The difference between someone with an ego investment and someone without one is this. A person whos ego (or sense of person) is tied to an opinion, lashes out emotionally when their opinion is attacked. They perceive someones disagreement with their viewpoint as being a personal attack. Which is basically what you did. The thing is, I dont care whether or not any of you believe what you believe. I just chose to present another way of seeing things. I dont get mad that people have alternative viewpoints on any matter, because thats just how things are.

If you wish to discuss this, please do so like an adult. And if I recall correctly, I remember you accussing me of being an emotional woman in the past, which really makes your response right now rather ironic.
zekko said:
Honestly, I don't get that excited over Stacy Kiebler either. But that's mostly because she's mainly been known for her long legs, and I don't like tall women. She's pretty in the face though. And she is 28 years younger than Clooney!

Anyway, you being 25, 32 probably seems old to you (just like it seems young to me). It's all relative.
She is quite a bit younger, but hell even a guy on this forum had a fling with a lady in her 60s and I believe he was in his 20s or 30s. Stacey wont end up with the guy I can tell you that. People just like to have their fun, having variety, but usually settle down in their age group. Thats who you relate to the most.

zekko said:
I have no problem with anyone dating anyone, regardless of age. I've never thought it mattered much.
I also have no problem with "older women". My girlfriend is 36 (she was 28 when we started dating), I still find her attractive.
Thats real love then bro. I dont get why guys here get so hung up on aging and get bitter about older women and like to point it out to them. Everyone ages and loses their physical appeal. Thats life.

I know one day I will find the right girl for me and as we age together I will prolly always have eyes for her as if she was still the young sweetheart I met years before.

zekko said:
Some people are hung up on age. But I bet if the right 32 year old guy came along, some of those hot young girls might sing a different tune.
I hope when you get to be in your 30s, you're not going to be one of these guys who suddenly think they can't date younger girls or you'll be seen as "creepy".
I dont think anyone is immune to being self conscious about their age around young folks. Hell I just graduated college, but as a 24 year old senior, I felt super older around the lower classmen.

But you are right, if the right man or woman came along, I think a lot of people could overlook age. Maybe not some of the guys here, but we are only a super small subset of the greater male population.
zekko said:
Having said that, and this is just a personal thing, I think that by the time you're in your 30s you ought to have better things to do with your time than hanging out in clubs. YMMV, of course.
I sitll will club it from time to time in my 30s, at least I think so. But places that cater to a more mature crowd.

Ill prolly be too busy with life to do it much anyways.
zekko said:
I agree men are at their physical peak in their 20s.
But there are a lot of guys here who will testify that their sexual value went up when they turned 30 - that things got a lot better for them. I also experienced this, so I can't dismiss it.
THIS is exactly what I have been saying the whole time. Older men say they FEEL more sexual value, more experienced and skillful in bed, and overall more attractive in their 30s. This is for the same reason women say they reach their peak and have more sex in their 30s. Confidence, personal accomplishments in life, experience, etc. They truly find themselves.

No one can dismiss what many other people say they feel. Its common for women to hit a sexual activity and orgasmic peak in their 30s, just as it is common for men to feel a lot more confidence and sexual value in their 30s. It is what it is. And thats what I have been saying the whole time.

To dismiss all of this just because of a bias opinion would be silly. Its basically trying to dictate to someone what theyve felt and experienced, even when they are telling you they are feeling something different. Im not gonna tell women they didnt experience a sexual peak in their 30s, even though they in fact did. And I am not going to tell men they didnt experience a wealth of confidence and increased sexual value.

zekko said:
Bottom line: Aging damages a woman's attractiveness at a much higher rate than a man's. And at a faster rate as well. Generally speaking, of course.
True, but this is based on perception. Not actual physical differences in the aging process. Its all to do with the fact that women do not value youthful beauty AS MUCH as men. I had to put "as much" in caps just to emphasize to folks that it doesnt mean women dont appreciate or like youth at all.
 

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Jaylan said:
Your behavior in the past, as well as right now, has shown me this: you are someone who cannot have a conversation like a rational adult, thus you lash out with emotional insults. Someone who must insult someone when getting their point across is obviously the one with the ego investment, not myself as some of you try to say.
You keep repeating that line to whoever disagree with you, right after you insulted him of course,in this case C-quenced.
According to you whoever disagree with you is immature and cannot behave as a rational adult, is that maybe you equate being mature and adult as having your same opinion?
Is that maybe you equate being mature and adult as believing whatever crap mainstream media and society tell you to believe?politically correctness zealots?


Isnt it probable that that if many people have the same opinion of you its not ALL of them to be wrong?
 

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You keep repeating that line to whoever disagree with you, right after you insulted him of course,in this case C-quenced.
According to you whoever disagree with you is immature and cannot behave as a rational adult, is that maybe you equate being mature and adult as having your same opinion?
Is that maybe you equate being mature and adult as believing whatever crap mainstream media and society tell you to believe?politically correctness zealots?


Isnt it probable that that if many people have the same opinion of you its not ALL of them to be wrong?
When did I insult Cquence first? Please quote me because you, him, and Danger are the ones who start with the rude and/or insulting responses.

Pay attention to the exchanges I have had with zekko and Rollo. No insults or rudeness, because neither them nor I chose to address one another in such a manner. Please follow suit if you wish to continue any sort of productive conversation with me in the future. Not once did I call zekko or Rollo immature or childish, because they know how to debate like rational individuals. So NO I do not just call anyone who disagrees with me immature.

I will call someone childish when they preface their responses (especially one with useless links) with insults. Funny thing is, you would not call him out for this behavior because hes parroting your viewpoint. And again, you try to say what "all people"['s] opinion of me is. Not everyone on this website has the same opinion of me.

We have gone over this before in another thread. And I have told you I dont care about that. Some people support me and my opinions, others dont and lash out at me. While others are indifferent. It is what it is. I just dont get so bent out of shape about it like some of you do when someone presents an alternate viewpoint to your own.
 

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Jaylan said:
Insulting someone is never the best way to start an exchange of opinion, if you realize your ego is an obstacle to polite talking you should avoid certain arguments.
Danger is one of the most wise and educated user of this forum and C-quenced although I dont know him as good as Danger seems to be a wise man as well and there
is no way they forced you to insult them.

It happened to everybody to be wrong sooner or later and there is nothing wrong in that, what is wrong is crying and shaming or insulting other people because of an hurt ego.

Im sure you're not a bad person and that you just had the bad luck to be grow in a liberal feminized environment with no real manly figure to lead you (thats shy many users pointed that you are either a woman or talk like one).

Those way of acting in fact are the main tools of feminists,religious zealots, politically correctness zealots and all of those with no ground with reality who need moral shaming in order to avoid people to realize their lies and their low value as individuals.
 

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Wow dude. I am really surprised. Are we reading the same thread? Did you read the thread or their initial responses to me? They were the ones who insulted me or were rude. Just look at Cquenced reponse up above. Look at my quote of him. Lets be real here.

Did you see me insult them first? If so I asked you to quote the specific instance. I do not insult someone when having a debate, and I do not act rude unless they are rude with me. Look at my discussions with Rollo and Zekko. All 3 of us got our points across to one another without insults or rudeness.

But the guys you are standing up for immediately got pizzy with me. So please re read the thread and see it for what it is. It seems like you are just trying to label me the bad guy because you are in their "viewpoint camp"

Again, quit the "many users" argument, because plenty of users have also backed me on my viewpoints and opinions. So stop being so one track minded and learn to see both sides of things. Its a shame that guys like you love to name any position they disagree with as coming from "feminists,religious zealots, politically correctness" or to call any alternate view point "shaming". It seems a lot of you have trouble accepting that there is more than one way of looking at things.
 

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No need to go on the defensive side and cite imaginary people that supports you, we're not attacking you personally only asking for you to be polite and dont insult or shame those with different point of views.

Better yet if you could avoid being a mirror of mainstream media and repeat social myths we do our best to point and reject here being them dangerous and hostile to us.

You cannot expect to be taken seriously if you talk as oprah, as you cannot expect to be taken in consideration if you shame and insults as a middle aged woman in menopause do when rejected.
 

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Im attacking other people? hahaha thats rich. Danger....did you or did you not say this...

Danger said:
And for all of those who claim they want the older, confident, experienced and peaking woman? I will send them to you as soon as I have broken them in during their hot body years.

So where was my response of "Funny thing is, all the hot ones are being broken in by us young bucks first. So who is really getting the seconds bro? We just like variety."off base? How was this response off base considering your original quip?

And me saying "Oh sweet, another blog with no studies provided. Simply a viewpoint from the male perspective. Ok" This is a matter of fact statement with a bit of sarcasm. Your grabbing from straws here bro. You are just trying to see an insult that isnt there. You can make a quip, but I cant? Whats up with that?

And dont pretend Cquenced didnt say this to me:
C-quenced said:
Don't waste your breath. Some people just can never grasp the concept that men =/= women and vice versa.



Here you go ya fvcking retard. Attractiveness for both men AND women are not the same.
But IM the one who insults people right? :rolleyes: I have yet to act in such a manner in this thread. Please quote me if you think so.

And I responded to EVERYTHING Rollo and Zekko have said to me. Show how I havent...please. Because I think you guys chose to misinterpret and gloss over things in this thread.
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No need to go on the defensive side and cite imaginary people that supports you, we're not attacking you personally only asking for you to be polite and dont insult or shame those with different point of views.

Better yet if you could avoid being a mirror of mainstream media and repeat social myths we do our best to point and reject here being them dangerous and hostile to us.

You cannot expect to be taken seriously if you talk as oprah, as you cannot expect to be taken in consideration if you shame and insults as a middle aged woman in menopause do when rejected.
I simply want you guys to prove what you are saying of me. Your buddies are the ones who insulted me first or made rude comments or quips first. The fact that Danger cannot handle when I respond to him in the same manner in which he first spoke is beyond me tbh.

Like I said, you simply call anything you disagree with shaming. And its funny because you do that all the time. You shame any viewpoint on this website you disagree with as being feminist, mangina, or PC. I see it in numerous threads. So please dont be a hypocrite and point the finger at me and also gloss over your buddies behavior.
 

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Listen I dont want you to get nervous and Rollo's posts that actually shown everybody you were wrong are a bad hit for your ego (which seems to be your main drive), if you think you did no wrong I sincerly dont know what else to add.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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