virgin at 20

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Im a ugly 20 year old virgin with a personality disorder. I talk about myself all the time make up stories to make me sound good and I cant help it. normally I'm shy and quiet but when I go out and get drunk i'm arrogant and obnoxious. I have very few friends and they are all geeks. I have a really boring personality I think I'm funny but im not and most people find me really boring to be around because I talk about uninterseting things. I seem to bring conversations down a level from something fun to something ****. Sometimes I think I look better than brad pitt other times I think I'm really ugly. Girls find me a huge turn off and basically run away from me. I really want to sleep with a hot girl. Pcitures of me below. Help.



 

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Read the Book of Pook.

And learn to smile, while you're at it.

And there's nothing wrong with being a virgin, especially at age 20.
 

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You don't look ugly to me. I'm a virgin at 20 too and have hardly done anything with a girl, I'm sure you've got more experience than me.
 

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i was alot like you at that age in my attitude. I did stupid **** like lie about things to pump myself up as well. It was almost like an impulsive thing where I did it without even thinking about it. I've realized that the reason I did it was because I was so self concious about myself. You need to lose that self conciousness to have any success with girls. You just need to say, if i look stupid doing this or that... who cares? Just be yourself and try not to think too much about how others perceive you. In the long run of things all these little encounters do not matter. Be yourself and lose the self conciousness.
 

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oh and at that age i started off on girls that were below my level. As noted, i was really self concious so in front of really attractive girls I would talk about stupid **** and lie kinda like you. But in front of the girls I thought were below me... i didn't give a fuk about what they thought of me. So started with an ugly, then next chick was slightly better looking, next chick even better, etc. Eventually I got to the point where my confidence was that I'm God's gift to women (even though im clearly not, but your attitude is all that matters). So now i date and sleep with very attractive girls only. I toook baby steps hehe...

Its like practice man... the more you do the better you get... regardless of what the woman looks like. Think about it, there aren't many things you can just pick up and immediately be good at.
 

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As far as image goes, get a cool haircut, lose the unibrow (seriously), go out and get some cool clothes. You can't do anything about the looks you have, but you CAN go to work on your appearance. Start a workout program if you haven't already. In my experience, NOTHING builds my confidence like a good workout. Not only will you look good, you'll feel great.

Smile a lot. Ask the cashier at the grocery store how her day is going. Say Hi to people as they walk by. If you want to have a good conversation with someone, base the conversation around them. Ask them questions about themselves rather than talking for days about yourself to make yourself look cool. If you think you're the only one who has insecurities, you're wrong. Everybody walks around with their insecurities, wondering about how other people perceive them. Remember, the only one who is critical of you is yourself. Girls are notorious for being the most insecure people on the planet, even the really hot ones.

Put a high price on yourself and your time. Find something in your life that you really enjoy doing (playing an instrument, martial arts, drawing, automobiles, etc) and run with it. Find some people in your area that share your similar interests and start hanging out with them. If you aren't enrolled in college, try out a community college. At college, everyone is really nice and people always enjoy a friendly face.

Don't take yourself so seriously. Learn to laugh about life's little things, and hold head high when you walk. Use good eye contact with people, speak slowly, and compliment them when you find something about them you find appealing. Focus on becoming a positive person, cast the negativity out of your head, and your insecurities about yourself will disappear.

We've all been AFC's at one point in our lives, but you can change that if you put the effort forth. It's not always a bed of roses, but becoming a DJ isn't about sleeping with a million women. It's about becoming the best man that you can become for yourself. Every woman dreams about being with a happy, confident, successful man who has his life together. You can't attract unless you are attractive. So get to work and become that man. Once you do, you won't believe how many women will be throwing themselves at you. I guarantee you'll meet some guys in your life who are great with women. You'll notice that all of them are happy guys who have their lives together.

As Pook said in one of his classic posts, "Your romantic life is an echo of your everyday life".
 

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young_gun said:
As far as image goes, get a cool haircut, lose the unibrow (seriously), go out and get some cool clothes. You can't do anything about the looks you have, but you CAN go to work on your appearance. Start a workout program if you haven't already. In my experience, NOTHING builds my confidence like a good workout. Not only will you look good, you'll feel great.

Smile a lot. Ask the cashier at the grocery store how her day is going. Say Hi to people as they walk by. If you want to have a good conversation with someone, base the conversation around them. Ask them questions about themselves rather than talking for days about yourself to make yourself look cool. If you think you're the only one who has insecurities, you're wrong. Everybody walks around with their insecurities, wondering about how other people perceive them. Remember, the only one who is critical of you is yourself. Girls are notorious for being the most insecure people on the planet, even the really hot ones.

Put a high price on yourself and your time. Find something in your life that you really enjoy doing (playing an instrument, martial arts, drawing, automobiles, etc) and run with it. Find some people in your area that share your similar interests and start hanging out with them. If you aren't enrolled in college, try out a community college. At college, everyone is really nice and people always enjoy a friendly face.

Don't take yourself so seriously. Learn to laugh about life's little things, and hold head high when you walk. Use good eye contact with people, speak slowly, and compliment them when you find something about them you find appealing. Focus on becoming a positive person, cast the negativity out of your head, and your insecurities about yourself will disappear.

We've all been AFC's at one point in our lives, but you can change that if you put the effort forth. It's not always a bed of roses, but becoming a DJ isn't about sleeping with a million women. It's about becoming the best man that you can become for yourself. Every woman dreams about being with a happy, confident, successful man who has his life together. You can't attract unless you are attractive. So get to work and become that man. Once you do, you won't believe how many women will be throwing themselves at you. I guarantee you'll meet some guys in your life who are great with women. You'll notice that all of them are happy guys who have their lives together.

As Pook said in one of his classic posts, "Your romantic life is an echo of your everyday life".
So you want him to be gay? Plenty of guys with eyebrows like that do fine. The problem isn't with his eyebrows, it is with the masculine girls he is around. Find a culture that embraces men who are men. Not one where the girls kick soccer balls and the guys worry about what face soap to use.
 

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meitenesrigas said:
So you want him to be gay? Plenty of guys with eyebrows like that do fine. The problem isn't with his eyebrows, it is with the masculine girls he is around. Find a culture that embraces men who are men. Not one where the girls kick soccer balls and the guys worry about what face soap to use.
What are you talking about???? You missed the point of my message completely. The main point of the message isn't his eyebrows or his appearance. Even so, just because you take pride in your appearance doesn't mean you're gay. If you let your appearance get out of control, you're a slob.
 

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No, he needs to follow what me and young gun said, he needs to do what he can to improve his image. It's not homosexual, and who fvcking cares if it is, I think we can safely say we most definitely are NOT gay. Women like men who try to look their best. Plus who said that the girls he is around are masculine?
Haha, well said.
 

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at least you have some honesty about yourself but it sounds like your biggest problem is social awarness. This is basically the ability to determine how and why other people act the way they do and also percieve you.

So we can tell you to trim this or act like that till we are blue in the face but it won't help.

just start reading and you will learn these things one at a time...it took 20 years to get you into your current lifestyle and habits and that won't change overnight. take everything you observe/read/hear with grain of salt and be committed even after failures.

best of luck
 

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Cmon, I know looks aren't everything to women, but when you look like him, it's an instant turnoff. Even if he gets a better haircut, shaves the unibrow, fixes his face, and gets a new wardrobe, he's not going to attract hot women. Let's put it this way, if you wanted a girl and he was her bf or was your competition at a club, you wouldn't take him seriously.

Makeover or no makeover, he'll be lucky to attract fat and/or ugly women.

Not to mention this guy is probably a troll who got some ugly guy's pictures off the internet.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
Cmon, I know looks aren't everything to women, but when you look like him, it's an instant turnoff. Even if he gets a better haircut, shaves the unibrow, fixes his face, and gets a new wardrobe, he's not going to attract hot women. Let's put it this way, if you wanted a girl and he was her bf or was your competition at a club, you wouldn't take him seriously.

Makeover or no makeover, he'll be lucky to attract fat and/or ugly women.

Not to mention this guy is probably a troll who got some ugly guy's pictures off the internet.
I can't believe you would even say that. You're supposed to be helping him, not tearing him down.

To the poster of the thread, your appearance is probably turning women off as of right now, but the more you improve it, the more women will notice. But more importantly, work on your personality. I know some guys who I consider to be really good looking who can't attract a decent woman to save their lives. Looks definitely help, but don't mean sh*t if you don't have the personality to go with it.
 

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Get your hair sorted, shave and specifically in between your eyebrows, dress stylish, make the gym your best friend rather than loosers who drink and aren't your friends and get reading on material to manipulate women and make them think you are the bees knees (seduction).

MM
 

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I agree with some of the replies here.
Shave the unibrow.
Get a different hairstyle. IMO it doesn't suit you.
Smile in your pictures and in life.
You said your shy. Dude shyness is a killer get rid of it.

Stop with all the negativity.
Go see a Psychologist if you have a personality disorder.
If you can't afford one then get some books and read them.
Stop drinking and being an arrogant azz. It's unhealthy.

I really want to sleep with a hot girl.
Thats not going to happen if you don't change your ways.
If you keep doing what you've been doing you'll keep
getting what you've been getting.

Forget about the girls for now.

Your inner game is all messed up and
you need to work on that.
 

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You can't give away what you dont have.

Being with a woman is also about giving. There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way.

Learn to be happy with who you are first, learn to live in the present moment and recognize that you are fine by yourself.

That way, when you do get a woman or women, you are coming from a place of giving - " I'm already whole and happy, I dont need you and if you are the type of girl who I happen to like, Im willing to give you a shot. Either ways, with or without you Im happy."

Come from that type of vibe, and there will never be a bad ending in your love life ever.
 

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Yeah, I didn't notice the unibrow in the second picture until now, but you oughta shave the middle of it. Unibrows are pretty uncool in American fashion. Other than that, you look fine. Read the Book of Pook, dammit.
 

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I'm also in the Virgin boat with the OP but my issues are different.

I get depressed because I've got no friends. Having no friends=lots of isolation and it really gets to me.

The acquaintances I've gotten to know a little say I'm one of the funniest people they've ever met, they also seem to like me. They also seem to think of me as a "leader" at times. But still I've literally got nobody to hang out with..I've got nobody that I can call a "friend"

I also have the whole "m face looks like ****" and "I'm short" complex. So yeah, I'm also self concious.

I bet if I at least had a small group of friends I'd have more women available etc.

Damn it:cry:
 

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Don't shave it, wax it (or pluck it ouch!!) That's one of the biggest unibrows I've ever seen and you would be shaving it every day.

Also to the guy above, the only way you could not have any friends is if you are a compulsive liar or don't ever go out. I don't even try, and I have a few close friends and lots of acquaintances. Try meeting people who share a common hobby, that makes it easier for a friendship to grow.
 

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You need to laser-remove that unibrow. That's nasty. Shouldn't cost too much.
 
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