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[sageproduct]

Keep them coming brother. I draw inspiration from this.

Great, glad this can be of use to others as well.

As for specifically what you are saying and doing. One, you are being way too cutesy with your texts and calls to these girls. A few times I had to cringe. It's not that you are coming across as a nerdy shy type, in fact quite the opposite. But for me, you are appearing to try to hard, always there with the cheesy or witty-or at least trying to be witty, comeback. And people can see right through that. Try to be a little more relaxed, real, and don't try so hard. Just be...natural.

Appreciated. Are you kind of saying that my texts don't seem congruent with my live personality? I've always been told I come off as serious/angry, even when I'm not. Maybe the incongruence has been weirding girls out as well.

O could you post some examples of texts I sent that seemed particularly obvious in being tryhard? I text/type quickly, so I have a nasty habit of directly streaming my thoughts into text messages, trying to capture my actual emotions at the moment. Gotta stop that.

Being asian

Roger that and appreciated. What you say is very true. Even as an AFC, I always got WAY more attention from asian girls than white girls. Also is another factor for why I do so incredibly poorly in the club scene.

I much prefer white girls over asian girls. There are many things about asian girls that piss me the fwck off, not to mention I'd kind of feel like a failure dating an asian girl, unless she is super hot/doesn't have the negative qualities a lot of asians do.

Being disadvantaged as an asian surprisingly has never really bothered me. I have some asian friends who constantly post sh!t on Facebook that show how asians are professionally and socially disadvantaged and argue about it all day, and it pisses me the fwck off. It's like jesus fwck, yeah there are many disadvantages but you should be used to it by now, and there are greater disadvantages that people have to overcome.

Plus, there are some girls who are specifically attracted to asian guys. A one-itis I had in high school had a thing for asians (too bad I fwcked that up ultra-AFC style), and my one-itis who I just ended things with two weeks ago enjoys dating non-white guys: out of her 4 bfs, one was asian, two were black, and the other one was white.

Luckily I have a couple sources of inspiration. Kong from SimplePickup is almost a fwcking perfect role model for what I want out of PUA. Even before discovering SP, back in high school there was this half-japanese guy who I acquainted with. Sure, he was one further generation removed than me and more americanized, but he still looked fully asian. And he was a fwcking BOSS. Cool as fwck (but a genuinely good guy), smart, hardworking student, national karate champion, and dated some of the HOTTEST, quality, non-b!tchy girls at our school. Even when one of them dumped him, he took it like a man and started going out with another top-tier hottie. He goes to a good university now. But back in high school, I never let myself think being asian in itself would stop me from getting girls because I would ALWAYS think of this dude as proof.

Pinging

So one concept that Ultimate Text and Phone Guide introduced to me was pinging. Basically what it is is to send a funny, low investment text every once in a while to girls who have marginal interest levels or high interest levels but have barriers (distance, bf, ex-bf, life stuff, etc.), so that you stay on their radar and build up some attraction and comfort over time by showing that you live a kick@$$ life, are non-needy, are persistent, and funny.

Of course only rarely will it turn things around. But, I figured hey why not give it a try. This morning I sent this text to about 40 girls:

"Rent due in an hour..don't have money..need to seduce landlord and sell body instead. Know where I can find a good thong?"

Friends, plates, rejections, girls w/bfs, even girls I hadn't talked to since high school got this text.

Responses varied a LOT. Girls I'm close with found it fwcking hilarious. Others who don't really know me seemed confused/didn't find it funny. Many others didn't respond.

Waste of time? I think not. There WAS one number, that I got back in april, in fact the first number I EVER got from a cold approach, who responded enthusiastically. Actually, it's the girl from the "success" video from my first post in this thread. Back then I texted her for a while but was never able to get the meetup, so I nexted her but never deleted the number.

Dead number necromancy. Worth it? Possibly. We shall see.

 

[sageproduct]

1 New Number

Video Report

Blahh too tired to type out other updates. Maybe later.

 

[sageproduct]

Video Report

 

[sageproduct]

Worst Hour

Video Report

Index

Ultimate Text and Phone Game guide suggests a tactic called "Pinging": sending low to marginal interest women a low investment text every once in a while in order to stay on her radar and possibly build some interest. You never know what's going on in a woman's life, it's possible that you just caught her at a bad time. Now this idea of endless pursuit goes against Anti-Dump and everything, but I'm giving it a try.

Girl #1: Stroller

Sat 12/1 10:06am Rent due in an hour..don't have money..need to seduce landlord and sell body instead. Know where I can find a good thong?

Wed 12/5 2:46pm New discovery: TLC's What Not To Wear can actually be deeply touching and inspiring...*tear

Girl #2: Meat

Sat 12/1 10:05am Rent due in an hour..don't have money..need to seduce landlord and sell body instead. Know where I can find a good thong?

Wed 12/5 2:46pm New discovery: TLC's What Not To Wear can actually be deeply touching and inspiring...*tear

Girl #3: Mexy

Sat 12/1 9:48am Rent due in an hour..don't have money..need to seduce landlord and sell body instead. Know where I can find a good thong?
10:42 Uhh, Victoria's Secret?
11:19 Phew I found the money I need. How ya doin?
12:02 Pretty good, you?
1:01 Dandy. Its gonna be a greeeeat weekend
10:46 Haha really?
Sun 12/2 10:54am Hell yeah. I've slept about 3 hours total
10:57 What you up to today?
11:35 Are you serious? Haha I'm going to church right now, then I go back to campus later
7:29 Oo really you didn't seem like the churchy type. I think our school plays yours in [sport] this week
7:30 Haha I don't? Why? Oh really? You're going to lose. Haha
7:33 Someones ****y today! I happen to be in a gambling mood. We win, and you have to cook for me!
7:39 Haha and if we win you owe me $50
7:41 Like hell! If you could cook a $50 meal I would have hired you as my chef already
7:52 Fine then, $20!

Tues 12/4 1:47pm [ping, censored for confidentiality]
Wed 12/5 9:29am Sorry, didn't see this haha but no, not jealous
10:56 Lol. I can't believe I haven't met you in person yet

(baiting to test interest)

10:56 How is that hard to believe?
10:59 Didn't realize that shizz was your sig. Ok, I'm gonna make this happen. What are your plans rest of this week
11:01 I know, my friend put it and I don't know how to get rid of it!
11:04 My sis used to have some fruity sig w/heart shapes n sh1t. I made fun of her all the time
11:06 But I can't get rid of mine!
11:07 Its cute. I feel like you're unintentionally confessing your love to me every time I get a text
11:15 HAHAHA! omg, how is that confessing of love?
11:16 Well every female on the planet is madly enough with me, so technically every word they utter to me is a confession
11:17 You're so in love with yourself
11:18 I know, isn't it weird tho cuz I'm not female
11:20 That just means you're a narcissist hahaha
11:23 WHAT I never told you that I masturbate!!!
11:25 Uhh what?
11:27 Poor joke about narcissism and making love to oneself. Sometimes my jokes bomb, its not a big deal
11:29 Maybe you should stop being so narcissistic
11:30 Maybe you should stop repressing your emotions and just say you love me
11:32 But I don't!
11:35 You hurt me so much by saying that. I can't believe you've been just using my body for sex all this time.
11:36 But I don't want to have sex with you
11:37 WHAT so ALL this time you've been having sex with me even though you didn't want to??? OMG you were just using me for free dates
11:38 Stop being so in love with yourself!
11:39 I can't help it. There's a whole body mirror in my room
11:49 Hahaha so?
12:07 Haha that jokes over. Anyway, you seem kinda cool. Meet up either today or tomorrow?
12:08 I can't today and I don't know about tomorrow
12:08 K. Yo @$$ is still grass tonight in [sport]
12:10 Wait, what?
12:11 my school vs your school
12:14 my school is better
12:21 Wanna see how attractive I am?
12:29 [sends me pic of her making weird facial expression] I break the scale with my attractiveness
12:31 Why are you trying so hard to seduce me?
12:38 It's quite effortless actually
12:41 What, seducing me? You're right actually. Show me duck lips and cross eyes and I'm instantly ready to go
12:45 Hahaha! I knew it!

She has lukewarm interest. According to the guide, the play is either to 1) build up her investment until she agrees to a 1 on 1 date or 2) invite her and her friends out at night. Since I don't really go out with friends often, 1 is the more likely option.

Girl #4: Sweetheart

Fri 11/30 2:30pm [send her pic of open mic bar]
5:30 cool!! so it was fun?
8:46 Yeah haha I was by far the youngest person there. Hope you're havin a kickass friday night
Sat 12/1 1:07am it was good! I was visiting my friend at [college]
1:16 Woo good timing you caught me on a study break. So you're totally wasted now ehh
9:32 haha I wasn't! I had to go home after
9:36 Ya I was joking you don't seem like a big drinker
9:39 I'm not really. you don't seem like you are either
9:42 Aren't we intuitive! I've drank on about 3 occasions in the last 2 years
12:44 wow and you're in college so that must be kind of different
Sun 12/2 11:13am Hello there, this is sageproduct's manly voice saying hi
4:53 Hello sageproduct u sound very masculine today
5:07 Sweetheart, are you flirting with me young woman?!?
5:33 its possible sir
5:34 Haha how are ya
8:31 Btw word is that this sageproduct guy is gonna be out in [suburbs] TWO nights this week. He's looking for a pretty and chill girl to play guitar with on one of those days. Know anyone who might be interested?
8:31 good! you?
8:31 YES lemme know when ur here!!
8:32 Monday and tuesday! But pick 1 bc I gotta help fix our family's water heater on the other
8:36 Monday tomorrow??
8:37 Yup tomorrow
8:41 Meet me at 6:30, I'll tell you where tomorrow. Bring la guitarra!
8:44 how bout Tuesday???
8:45 Ooooook missy
8:48 Okay can't wait
8:51 There's a slight chance that I'll need you to pick me up if my parents are silly and take both cars out
8:53 I can if you want!
8:57 As long as you come up and ring the doorbell like a proper gentlewoman
8:58 Of course. And don't worry ill open your car door too
8:59 My hero don't worry I can pay for myself though!
9:12 no no I can't let you do that
9:12 Its ok you don't have to be so traditional! I can take care of myself
9:59 I insist, darling! chivalry lives
10:01 Hahaha. You funny. I like that
10:02 6:30 good on tues?
10:36 yeah that should work!

Mon 12/3 9:45pm sageproduct I've got to work tomorrow! will you be in town this weekend at all?
9:49 Nahh I'm gonna be out in the city

Girl #5: Costume

Sat 12/1 5:19pm This is the funniest AND most romantic text ever. -sageproduct
Sun 12/2 7:40pm ATTN: missing person report. Handsome asian guy, last seen at target saturday evening in section w/women's socks, bras, and undies. Spotted talking to suspicious looking female (potential kidnapper?). Please report immediately any information.
Tues 12/4 1:47pm [ping, censored for confidentiality]

 

[sageproduct]

WOW CAREER DAY. 9 # closes

Video Report

Links below for specific time in video when I talk about that girl.

Girl #6: Shoot

Girl #1 for today link.

Girl #7: Tallyoung

Girl #2 for today link.

Girl #8: Pole

Girl #3 for today link.

Girl #9: Home

Girl #4 for today link.

Girl #10: Charity

Girl #5 for today link.



Girl #6 for today link, I will not follow up with her, so she will not get a nickname nor place in the index.

Girl #11: Pinkstyle

Girl #7 for today link.

Girl #12: Softgolf

Girl #8 for today link.

Girl #13: Partyasian

Girl #9 for today link.

 

[Fly By Night]

Ultimate Text and Phone Game guide suggests a tactic called "Pinging": sending low to marginal interest women a low investment text every once in a while in order to stay on her radar and possibly build some interest. You never know what's going on in a woman's life, it's possible that you just caught her at a bad time. Now this idea of endless pursuit goes against Anti-Dump and everything, but I'm giving it a try.

Sorry man, but this just seems very desperate/needy. You THINK that sending a "non-needy" message to her that doesn't expect a reply makes you better in her eyes, but the bottom line is that you still texted her. She already knows you want her attention. Of course girls you are close with will respond positively because they enjoy talking to you. They are, in a way, interested in you. The fact that you went out of your way to send them a message is asking for their attention, regardless of what you type.

If you ask me, you should follow your role model's footsteps. He is a laid back guy who lives in the moment without chasing any one girl in particular. You have to truly embrace living it up to attract women.

Start f**king with interested women and stop wasting your time/messages on the uninterested ones. This whole "pinging" theory reeks of desperation.

 

[sageproduct]

Girl #6: Shoot

Sat 12/8 6:37pm Shoot nice meeting you randomly. Hope the photoshoot went well
9:49 Thanks!

Called her just now, she picked up, said she was at work, so I'm gonna call her back in an hour or so.

Girl #8: Pole

Called her at night yesterday, she was just leaving work...so I said I'd call her in 20 min. Call her in 20 min, she doesn't pick up. Text her today:

12:37pm Hey Pole, nice meeting you randomly yesterday! -sageproduct

Girl #9: Home

12:14pm Home, nice meeting you randomly at macys yesterday. Hope you have a super churchy and religious sunday with all your [school] friends. -sageproduct

Girl #10: Charity

12:17pm Hello! Looking for this pretty girl I met on the street named Charity. She was on her way to nordstrom and had a charity event later at night. If you've seen her, let me know. -sageproduct

Girl #11: Pinkstyle

12:30pm So I met this awesome girl named Pinkstyle yesterday who likes to wear big purple jackets and hang out w/french ppl. Since her favorite color is hot pink I'm gonna get a sexy thong of that color to seduce her in. Let me know plz if you know where I can get one

Girl #12: Softgolf

12:35pm Hello. Looking for girlfriend: Reqs: must [confidential] and be attracted to sexy @$$ asian guys. Also must be named Softgolf. If interested, please send application and personal statement. Thank you.

Girl #13: Partyasian

Sat 12/8 11:36pm Partyasian. Nice meeting you today while your friend was pissing. Get wasted. -sageproduct



I hear crickets......

 

[sarcastic sam]

yeah ok like this thread isn't gay.. i mean posting vids of yourself telling stories wtf

post vids of you actually out with girls, talking to them, trying to date them etc

stop posting vids of yourself telling a story that is just gay

 

[sageproduct]

1 Approach

post vids of you actually out with girls, talking to them, trying to date them etc

I do have some (old) footage up, and I'm dying to get another opportunity to film more daygame. It's actually a lot of fwcking work to film yourself out there - gotta set up equipment, get a good wing to film, then edit that sh!t down and upload. I really want to do it again soon though, because I've improved, and I need to spot what my next hurdles are.

Today's Approach

I'll type today's out.

So I was at the train station, with only about 10 minutes before my train leaves. I figure I should at least try to get in one approach.

I'm walking around the station feeling slightly self-conscious because I'm wearing a big funny coat, rocking a backpack that looks like sh!t, and holding my acoustic guitar in one hand. No matter, I finally spot an older chick sitting down by herself.

I walk up to her.

Me: Douchebag with acoustic guitar has appeared.

Her: Hahaha, what?!

Me (reach out and shake her hand): Hi, I'm sageproduct.

Her (looking REALLY confused): Ooook, hi...

Me: I just thought you were cute, and I had to come meet you.

Her (face immediately lights up): Omg hahahahaha!! I'm sorry I'm married!

Me: What, you're married? That just ruined my entire day.

Her: I'm sorry!! You made mine though!

Me: See, I brought this guitar with me JUST for you. I was going to play you a song and everything, and now it's just totally pointless.

Her: Hahaha omg well we're at a train station, I'm SURE you'll find someone else.

Me: No one like you though...

Her: Hahaha, thanks

Me: Well, I'm depressed now. Instead of getting on the train, I think I'm going to go jump in front of it.

Her: Nooo don't do that! That would make me sad. Please don't!



Idk why I typed that out. But it was a fun interaction that I walked away from smiling. Wish I had more time afterward to ride that good mood and hit on another girl who's actually single

 

[sageproduct]

Sarging at mall yesterday

Not too much to report on. Sarged for little over an hour, did a handful of approaches. This gem came of it. Other than that, I'll relay back what I can remember of the approaches:

-shy looking girl waiting to get her hair done. She's unreceptive at first but slowly warms up to me as I say some funny sh!t. Unfortunately she had a bf AND was moving to LA in a few days. Here's a little gem from that:

Her: I'm sorry! Thanks for trying though!
Me: Oh yeah of course. I'm a trisexual.
Her: ???
Me: Meaning I'll always try to have sex with you.
Her: HAHAHA

[cred SimplePickup]

-really sweet goth girl definitely seemed interested but apparently had a bf.

-30 or 40 something year old employee laughed her @$$ off, then refused to give me her number and insisted that I go to the information desk and get her business card instead (promising that it has her cell number on it). Probably thought I wasn't serious because I'm 20. I go to the information desk to get the card, they tell me she doesn't have one. Go back to where the woman was, she hastily left. I got played trollolol

-emo looking chick who was an employee was really nice and receptive toward my compliments, my conversation, everything. But as SOON as I mentioned getting together and asked for her number, she immediately changed complexion. she said she didn't have a phone. Asked for email, she says she doesn't check it often. Blehhhh.

-This one's kinda stupid. I'm walking by a kind of alternative/almost gothy type store, see cute employee. Beeline in but right as I do, the one I spotted moves away, and a different employee greets me. There are three chick employees there total. The one who greets me is actually the hottest, I didn't see her at first. Run my game, she likes me but has a bf. I start chatting w/all three chicks, we're on the topic of cheesy pickup lines, I'm being cool and we share some laughs. I want to switch over to the girl I initially saw, but I can't think of how to do it since I made it so blatantly obvious I was hitting on the hot one at first. Had no idea how to make up for the other girl getting the "second choice" designation. Fwck, should have just gone for it and learned under fire.

-Haha. I don't usually use the HB rating system or whatever, but this bombshell was a solid 9. Sexy as fwck and knows it, former collegiate cheerleader and everything. As soon as she tells me her name, I remember that I had approached and gotten her number earlier this summer. In fact, I had just sent a couple "ping" texts to her in the last couple weeks. I acted like I didn't know what she was talking about when she mentioned that we already met and that I had texted her recently. Convo turned weird, she never laughs at any of my sh!t, but basically I act like a persistent motherfwcker and tell her that I'm going to keep texting her until she comes out.

 

[sageproduct]

Misc

So I probably won't be as anal about keeping my index up to date anymore. I've had to take a hard look at my priorities and need to cut back a little from the time I put into this. Nevertheless, here are some updates:

I've been out of town for 3 days. Monday while waiting for my departure flight I have some down time so I wander around and spit some game. The first girl was pretty dam sweet but lived far away and had a bf. Actually that was pretty much the story for every girl I hit on, that she lived in a distant state and had a bf.

My favorite approach was this 36 year old (she eventually volunteered her exact age) attractive, married businesswoman. She was cool as fwck. When I opened and said "You are absolutely adorable, and I HAD to meet you" she laughed her @$$ off, haha. I flirted with her like any other girl and she flirted back, all in good fun. We had a bomb-@$$ conversation, and it turns out she has quite the status in her field. In fact, it's the same industry as an organization I work for. I later kicked myself realizing I should have turned our conversation to business and connect with her on LinkedIn or something.

Anyway, I LOVE when older women tell me they're too old for me. I always respond that chicks my age aren't mature and sophisticated enough to have a good conversation...and they laugh their @$$ off.

Before my flight back today, the airport fwcking sucked. I only found one girl to approach. Game was way off from being rusty in not having done a cold approach in 3 days. I walked away knowing I sucked, but at least I knew what I did wrong.

 

[sageproduct]

lil xmas eve shopping hehe

Went to Target to grab a couple gifts. Wasn't thinking about sarging, but it's a good thing this is a LIFESTYLE now baby.

I'm looking at stuff in an aisle, there's a black/latino looking chick nearby. After I got what I needed, I turn to her, walk directly over:

"Excuse me, hi. I have to be totally honest here. You are absolutely adorable, and I just had to come talk to you."

She was all 'omg' and giggles and stuff. I bantered for a quick minute, then she had to get back to work. When I close, she says, "There are a couple problems though. 1, I'm 17. 2, I have a boyfriend."

Lol. I didn't press this one, it wasn't worth it because I FOUND OUT SHE CURRENTLY GOES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL I WENT TO. Soon as I found this out, I cut out of the conversation pretty quickly and didn't tell her I went there, lol. There are people in my hometown community who shall not find out that I hit on a 17 year old girl like this. If I told her that I went to her hs, there's a good chance either her or someone she knows would have known who I am.

After shopping is done, I wander around a bit. I see an attractive 30-40 year old strolling down the lane, so I follow her into an aisle. She meets up with her husband. I laugh and walk away.

I see a fwcking 6 foot tall bombshell Italian looking chick wearing sh1t that shows off her trim figure. I go up to approach her, and right before I do, her husband returns. Huge fwcking black guy, lol. Let's just say my "approach anxiety" morphed into a more real version.

 

[zinc4]

well, you are a pretty good looking guy IMO...no homo..could see you with a lot of chicks pretty easily ...however,

when you approach in your videos, you are way too monotone and stiff and standing there directly facing them with sort of an awkward posture in general....do you stand like that when you are talking to your mom, sister or best friend? .i had this same problem back in the day.....just keep doing it and you will get better...also, you are young...you need to go out and party some to relax yourself a little...you seem pretty serious...i was the same way coming out of highschool...

also, why do you tell them they are so adorable right off the bat? i would lose this...pretty girls hear this crap too often.....and AIDs...never do that again....and don't chase down a girl..it is scary and too over the top...and don't say wait don't go and stuff like that...also hit on some Asian chicks to level the playing field for yourself...

but IMO your biggest problem is your body language and tone of voice...you just don't seem very relaxed.....a good way to learn to be relaxed is to just start by asking a hot girl for directions to some mundane place...this way you aren't invested in her reaction or answer...then carry that naturalness over to conversing with her.....

The way you stand there and talk, i can tell you are either a virgin or that you have only been with very few women...i am not trying to insult you, but your body language is speaking volumes to me...that's why i suggested to just go out and party some and have fun and bang some college chicks who are in the mood to so you can get over that initial hump and also to just have fun and relax...you definitely have some natural wit and can come up with some clever text

 

[BadNews]

"You didn't notice those were all like...asian characteristics?"

"ummmmm...nooo?"

"Aww well...fvck that!"

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! I laughed so fvcking hard dude. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[BigSmooth]

Sat 12/1 9:48am Rent due in an hour..don't have money..need to seduce landlord and sell body instead. Know where I can find a good thong?
10:42 Uhh, Victoria's Secret?
11:19 Phew I found the money I need. How ya doin?
12:02 Pretty good, you?
1:01 Dandy. Its gonna be a greeeeat weekend
10:46 Haha really?
Sun 12/2 10:54am Hell yeah. I've slept about 3 hours total
10:57 What you up to today?
11:35 Are you serious? Haha I'm going to church right now, then I go back to campus later
7:29 Oo really you didn't seem like the churchy type. I think our school plays yours in [sport] this week
7:30 Haha I don't? Why? Oh really? You're going to lose. Haha
7:33 Someones ****y today! I happen to be in a gambling mood. We win, and you have to cook for me!
7:39 Haha and if we win you owe me $50
7:41 Like hell! If you could cook a $50 meal I would have hired you as my chef already
7:52 Fine then, $20!

Tues 12/4 1:47pm [ping, censored for confidentiality]
Wed 12/5 9:29am Sorry, didn't see this haha but no, not jealous
10:56 Lol. I can't believe I haven't met you in person yet

(baiting to test interest)

10:56 How is that hard to believe?
10:59 Didn't realize that shizz was your sig. Ok, I'm gonna make this happen. What are your plans rest of this week
11:01 I know, my friend put it and I don't know how to get rid of it!
11:04 My sis used to have some fruity sig w/heart shapes n sh1t. I made fun of her all the time
11:06 But I can't get rid of mine!
11:07 Its cute. I feel like you're unintentionally confessing your love to me every time I get a text
11:15 HAHAHA! omg, how is that confessing of love?
11:16 Well every female on the planet is madly enough with me, so technically every word they utter to me is a confession
11:17 You're so in love with yourself
11:18 I know, isn't it weird tho cuz I'm not female
11:20 That just means you're a narcissist hahaha
11:23 WHAT I never told you that I masturbate!!!
11:25 Uhh what?
11:27 Poor joke about narcissism and making love to oneself. Sometimes my jokes bomb, its not a big deal
11:29 Maybe you should stop being so narcissistic
11:30 Maybe you should stop repressing your emotions and just say you love me
11:32 But I don't!
11:35 You hurt me so much by saying that. I can't believe you've been just using my body for sex all this time.
11:36 But I don't want to have sex with you
11:37 WHAT so ALL this time you've been having sex with me even though you didn't want to??? OMG you were just using me for free dates
11:38 Stop being so in love with yourself!
11:39 I can't help it. There's a whole body mirror in my room
11:49 Hahaha so?
12:07 Haha that jokes over. Anyway, you seem kinda cool. Meet up either today or tomorrow?
12:08 I can't today and I don't know about tomorrow
12:08 K. Yo @$$ is still grass tonight in [sport]
12:10 Wait, what?
12:11 my school vs your school
12:14 my school is better
12:21 Wanna see how attractive I am?
12:29 [sends me pic of her making weird facial expression] I break the scale with my attractiveness
12:31 Why are you trying so hard to seduce me?
12:38 It's quite effortless actually
12:41 What, seducing me? You're right actually. Show me duck lips and cross eyes and I'm instantly ready to go
12:45 Hahaha! I knew it!

She has lukewarm interest. According to the guide, the play is either to 1) build up her investment until she agrees to a 1 on 1 date or 2) invite her and her friends out at night. Since I don't really go out with friends often, 1 is the more likely option.

Bud, this is weak texting game at its finest. Here are a couple things that you do wrong:

1) You are trying too hard to portray yourself as "narcissistic".

2) Too much assuming she wants to have sex with you to the point it's kind of overbearing. She's most likely texting one of her girlfriends on the side about how she has some kinda creepy dude trying to flirt with her.


It seems like your game is too focused on a sense of amateur-PUA. There's just something...not genuine about it, I don't know. It doesn't seem natural, it seems a bit forced. You're not being a MAN per se, your game reminds me of a a middle-high school game still.


So my advice would be to stop with the overbearing PUA stuff, and be more of a natural man. There's a line between being a ****y-funny guy and trying too hard to be a PUA.


~BSmooth

 

[sageproduct]

fun time at mall today.

So some bad old habits kicked in and I spent about 40 hours over the last four days playing Civilization IV. No social contact, so I'm completely uncalibrated socially when I head to the mall.

I get there, walk around for a while. See a BUNCH of pretty girls. I keep pu$$ing out of approaching though. I laugh at myself because these are situations in which I typically have next to zero approach anxiety in, but all of it came back since I'm rusty.

Finally I approach.

First few approaches are HORRENDOUS. I use my standard direct opener, but I'm obviously out of tune, my tonality is off, I'm not in a social mood, my mind blanks and conversations don't go anywhere.

Each approach shakes off a little rust though as I laugh off my miserable failing. Eventually, I hit "that" point. Some PUA's call it in-state, SimplePickup calls it god mode. I'm feeling it and I KNOW I'm back in the game.

Two solid approaches of employees at clothing stores who suddenly got called over by their boss while they were talking to me. I leave after this happens, ready to come back later to finish the deal and grab the #.

The Approach of the Day

Leaving the bathroom, there's this chick walking 15 ft in front of me with a damn nice figure. She's dressed well in slacks and boots. As she turns the corner, I see some 40 year old dude blatantly turn back to check out her a$$. Ogle her all you want my man, cuz while you watch I'm going in.

Fwck pickup convention I don't care about that sh1t. I approach by running and catching up to her from behind, then placing myself in front of her to block her path so she doesn't keep walking.

She is absolutely adorable and really sweet looking.

I know now my mind is finally liquid and functioning properly, as I slightly modify my opener on the spot:

Me: Excuse me, hi. I have to be totally honest here, I really like your style, and I just had to come talk to you.

I AM IN. Very direct eye contact from her, she starts to ask my name before I introduce myself.

We vibe for a couple minutes. I try to guess her profession, turns out she owns [a local business which I'm censoring for confidentiality]. We grew up in the same town. She asks me if I have Facebook, I lie and say no. It's only a few minutes before I eject:

Me: Well I'm on my way out. But, you seem like a cool person. You and I should hang out sometime.

Her: Yeah sure! I'll give you my number!

Punch the number in, call to make sure I put it in rightly. I've fwcked that up a few times, not gonna chance it anymore haha.

AND THEN

I don't leave the mall just yet. I wander around a little while looking for more targets to approach. Think I did some approaches.

Keep in mind here I'm looking pretty sh1tty because I came straight from something else. I'm wearing a t-shirt and shorts, carrying a silly jacket in my hand, it's stupid because it's snowing outside. I look stupid, like an overgrown teenager, but fwck that looks don't matter.

ANYWAY. I walk by Victoria's Secret. I say fwck it man I'm gonna go in and try to hit on some ladies. I go in, walk around the whole place, there are people but not really any targets that intrigue me. I'm the only male.

Then as I go by the cash register and cut through the huge @$$ line, I SEE THE GIRL WHO'S NUMBER I JUST GOT. She smiles at me and says hey!. Lol. I walk by her, turn around and tell her that I don't have money to pay my landlord for rent so I'm looking for a nice thong to seduce my landlord in. I don't think she really got the joke but I said it with confidence and direct eye contact, then left.

Let's see how this plays out

 

[dadmonson]

So some bad old habits kicked in and I spent about 40 hours over the last four days playing Civilization IV. No social contact, so I'm completely uncalibrated socially when I head to the mall.

I get there, walk around for a while. See a BUNCH of pretty girls. I keep pu$$ing out of approaching though. I laugh at myself because these are situations in which I typically have next to zero approach anxiety in, but all of it came back since I'm rusty.

Finally I approach.

First few approaches are HORRENDOUS. I use my standard direct opener, but I'm obviously out of tune, my tonality is off, I'm not in a social mood, my mind blanks and conversations don't go anywhere.

Each approach shakes off a little rust though as I laugh off my miserable failing. Eventually, I hit "that" point. Some PUA's call it in-state, SimplePickup calls it god mode. I'm feeling it and I KNOW I'm back in the game.

Two solid approaches of employees at clothing stores who suddenly got called over by their boss while they were talking to me. I leave after this happens, ready to come back later to finish the deal and grab the #.

The Approach of the Day

Leaving the bathroom, there's this chick walking 15 ft in front of me with a damn nice figure. She's dressed well in slacks and boots. As she turns the corner, I see some 40 year old dude blatantly turn back to check out her a$$. Ogle her all you want my man, cuz while you watch I'm going in.

Fwck pickup convention I don't care about that sh1t. I approach by running and catching up to her from behind, then placing myself in front of her to block her path so she doesn't keep walking.

She is absolutely adorable and really sweet looking.

I know now my mind is finally liquid and functioning properly, as I slightly modify my opener on the spot:

Me: Excuse me, hi. I have to be totally honest here, I really like your style, and I just had to come talk to you.

I AM IN. Very direct eye contact from her, she starts to ask my name before I introduce myself.

We vibe for a couple minutes. I try to guess her profession, turns out she owns [a local business which I'm censoring for confidentiality]. We grew up in the same town. She asks me if I have Facebook, I lie and say no. It's only a few minutes before I eject:

Me: Well I'm on my way out. But, you seem like a cool person. You and I should hang out sometime.

Her: Yeah sure! I'll give you my number!

Punch the number in, call to make sure I put it in rightly. I've fwcked that up a few times, not gonna chance it anymore haha.

AND THEN

I don't leave the mall just yet. I wander around a little while looking for more targets to approach. Think I did some approaches.

Keep in mind here I'm looking pretty sh1tty because I came straight from something else. I'm wearing a t-shirt and shorts, carrying a silly jacket in my hand, it's stupid because it's snowing outside. I look stupid, like an overgrown teenager, but fwck that looks don't matter.

ANYWAY. I walk by Victoria's Secret. I say fwck it man I'm gonna go in and try to hit on some ladies. I go in, walk around the whole place, there are people but not really any targets that intrigue me. I'm the only male.

Then as I go by the cash register and cut through the huge @$$ line, I SEE THE GIRL WHO'S NUMBER I JUST GOT. She smiles at me and says hey!. Lol. I walk by her, turn around and tell her that I don't have money to pay my landlord for rent so I'm looking for a nice thong to seduce my landlord in. I don't think she really got the joke but I said it with confidence and direct eye contact, then left.

Let's see how this plays out

Good going, playa...

Can you post more video of your approaches? I really find them inspiring.

 

[sageproduct]

Good going, playa...

Can you post more video of your approaches? I really find them inspiring.

Good that you do! Dude I have one guy from the SimplePickup forums who I record with. We've literally been trying to coordinate a time for the last MONTH or so, but we've both been busy ahhhhhh. I need some new fwcking footage up ASAP so I can get some real feedback based on where I'm at now.

 

[sageproduct]

Don't approach girls at the gym? Well fwck that let's go motherfwcker!

Finally got the fwck out of my parents' house after the holiday season and back to my apartment. Went to my university's gym today.

Heading to and from the locker room to change, the chick working at the desk where they hand you towels is pretty cute. I don't do anything outside of acting cool and making a tiny bit of banter each time I walk by.

Go and do my workout. There is the hot a$$$$$ blonde girl in pink who every fwcking guy is checking out. I want to approach her so bad but am nervous. By the time I finish my workout, she's in another area of the gym. I head over there lol.

She's lying on the ground doing exercises with a gymnic ball. I could have approached her at any fwcking point in time, it wouldn't have mattered. I'm nervous about the fact that there are people all around. Gotta get over that sh1t.

Over in the far corner all by herself is some other chick doing crunches. No one nearby, I'm relieved to see. I walk over to her and plop myself right down on the mat next to her.

Me: Ok, I know this is totally random, but I have to be COMPLETELY honest, I thought you were cute, and I had to come meet you.
Her: Omgggg hi, what's your name?
Me: Sageproduct, nice to meet you. Haha this is like the worst place to meet someone
Her: I know...I do have to tell you though, I have a boyfriend

We talk a little bit. I grab her digits, telling her I'm inviting her to a party this weekend and she should bring all her cute single friends (there is no fwcking party this weekend, lol.)

After the interaction, it's REALLY obvious what I was doing to fwcking everyone around. This dude working there is fwcking staring me down, and as I walk back over to where I was before, EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the treadmills is looking at me haha.

Just gotta get used to it and really learn that it doesn't fwcking matter what those people think.

I'm still too nervous to approach the bombshell blonde, and eventually she goes into the locker room. Dammit sage! Where are your balls man!

Go to the locker room, get my stuff. On my way out there's another blonde chick at the desk in place of the cute brunette from earlier. I ask her some question about the locks, we talk a bit, then the brunette comes back and joins in. I don't like the blonde as much, plus the brunette is giving me strong eye contact and smiling at me while the blonde isn't. Sageproduct doesn't come up with a way on the spot to transition his game, so he walks away while bantering.

I went to look at something, then I notice the blonde girl leaving the desk to go to a different area. Perfect. I go back to the desk where the brunette is now alone:

Me: Hi
Her: Hey. Can I...
Me: I have to be totally honest, I already knew about the locks. You were just really cute, and I was trying to make conversation. I HAVE to meet you.
Her: Hahaha, What's your name?

We become acquainted. Not my smoothest approach, I'm clearly not very in-state. She's fairly receptive and attentive despite me stumbling a few times and tripping up.

Me: I literally have to run and catch a train in two minutes, but we should talk again
Her: Yeah! Maybe I'll see you around again sometime
Me: I won't be here again.
Her: ...
Me: We should keep in contact. Do you text?
Her: I do, but I can't just give my number out to you! Won't you be around here more?
Me: Never.

Somehow, the conversation went to me admitting that I am indeed going to be back, and I was just saying that to try to get her to give me her number.

Me: Yeah, I was just trying to pressure you into giving me your number
Her: Yeah, I noticed. Not cool, it's kind of making me uncomfortable
Me: Oh, well I should probably stop doing that


...


Her: Well it was nice meeting you! I'll see you around, happy new year!

Blah. Weak, many things I did wrong obviously. I probably would have been smoother if I were in a better state. But, if I go back to the gym and see her again, you bet your @$$ I'm going to be a persistent motherfwcker and try again.



Nothing much else to report on. Did a couple other approaches. Only other noteworthy once is so because it was at the train station, and two asian dudes were sitting at the table RIGHT next to where the girl was seated. They heard EVERYTHING I said, I saw them INSTANTLY peak at me when I told this girl out of the blue that she was cute. Lol. She was unreceptive, and was a foreigner who didn't speak English well, which added to the awkwardness. I plowed through until she told me she had a boyfriend though. As I walk away, the dudes are staring me down like crazy lol. No charge guys on the lesson of how to have balls, I'm thinking to myself.

 

[dadmonson]

Have you gotten laid at all off these cold approaches Sage?

EDIT: Have you gotten any dates?