Valentine's Day: I Am In Total Shock...

[Thoroughbred]

If this is true, she has probably done this with ohter men. I definitely would think she is pretty strange and I wouldn't feel flattered at all, considering she doesn't even know you that well.

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Cyrano, I think you missed the whole point of his story and the underlying point to my response...she had nothing to cry about because there was absolutely no foundation or reason for her to cry. What expectations did she have, that MVP was going to say yes? Why? There was nothing to support this conclusion. This is why MVP was in "'TOTAL SHOCK". And all the men here were in agreement to his normal reaction!

I got your point, but perhaps I wasn't direct enough in stating mine. I think we can all agree that the reasonable expectation of success here was slim. Even so, she must have been at least expecting at that effort she put into it to hold some sort of sway, because people don't make strategies with the initial expectation that nothing they are about to do has any chance of garnering the desired result.

You say that she had absolutely no reason to cry, but since when has breaking down into tears been a rational response to a situation? Even if it was, this is not a rational situation. This woman has been pining for MVPlaya and watching him from afar for a long time. She seriously invested herself into this. What 'rational' person would expect her to just say," Oh well, I tried, I guess you can't win them all. I guess I should just move on and forget this ever happened." It doesn't take a psychotic woman (though I will not preclude this as an option at this point) to break drown crying because a guy she likes doesn't like her.

My core issue with your statement is that it shows exactly how little you understand about women and psychology and here you've made it a Holy calling to show others the DJ way. If you yourself can't make such basic distinctions, how can you understand the broader issues involved and help other DJs on their journey to find their own promised land?

It just doesn't make sense! The only rationale for this is that MVP 'made up' the whole story!

I don't think he could make that up and what incentive would he have to? None unless his emotional well-being is directly tied to the sympathy of others and I've seen enough of MVPlaya to know that's not the case. He's never displayed tendencies towards exaggerations or outright yarn spinning, though I could think of a particular someone who's demonstrated both tendencies on a regular basis and still asks openly why no one takes them seriously. *cough*PRL*cough*cough*

You should go see a doctor about that itch, and determine what ho gave it to you!

I was speaking in a metaphor. You sir are a frequent persistent annoyance to me. No matter how often I scratch or don't scratch, you're still here. Tell me, isn't there some other, more productive pursuit you could be following?

There is an old chinese saying that goes something like," Know neither yourself or your enemy and you will only know defeat. Know yourself, but not your enemy or your enemy but not yourself and you will be successful only half of the time. But if you know both your enemy and yourself, then you will be unstoppable." I won't say you're a complete imbecile, and you do come through with a few shiners every now and again. But for the most part the best I can say of you is that you know yourself, which taken alone is a wholly insufficient yardstick by which to measure life. Half-@ss is only half-way, and that's about as qualified as you get when responding, yet you persist in doing so anyway at any available opportunity. Keep this in mind for future referrence PRL, better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt.

-CyranoDeBergerac

 

[Trapspringer]

Didn't know you and PRL were such enemies.

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

Yes even Sexy Malibu is shocked.

Un****ingbelievable. That's totally terrifying. (If it's true ).

If I were you I'd watch out... make sure she doesn't have like a voodoo doll made up of strands of your hair she's collected or like if she used photoshop to make computer generated versions of your future babies together or installed tracking devices and hidden cameras all around your place.

that old saying about love having no fury like a woman scorned.

BTW, that's "HELL hath no fury like a woman scorned". Hell is furious. We'd HOPE that love is not so furious (although we all know it can be, sigh).

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

Originally posted by Sexy_Malibu
BTW, that's "HELL hath no fury like a woman scorned". Hell is furious. We'd HOPE that love is not so furious (although we all know it can be, sigh).

Ah yes, I apologize for my misquote. I was enjoying a good cigar at the time and was a bit distracted. Love is far too delicate a thing to be painted with such harsh brush strokes.

Then there's angry sex which is a whole 'nother thing all together.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Cyrano, I think you missed the whole point of his story and the underlying point to my response...she had nothing to cry about because there was absolutely no foundation or reason for her to cry. What expectations did she have, that MVP was going to say yes? Why? There was nothing to support this conclusion. This is why MVP was in "'TOTAL SHOCK". And all the men here were in agreement to his normal reaction!

For her to cry for expecting anything other than a 'no', tells you that something is psychologically and emotionally wrong with her. They never held hands or kissed - they never dated!!! What women would do something like this except a psychotic! Men wouldn't even have the balls to do this. OK, maybe a total chump.

It just doesn't make sense! The only rationale for this is that MVP 'made up' the whole story!

You should go see a doctor about that itch, and determine what ho gave it to you!

Puerto, does it SURPRISE you that women are emotional creatures? That's one reason why they are women and NOT MEN. Don't try to rationalize it.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Trapspringer, Cyrano hates me because I stated that homosexuality was an abomination - thus his 'holy' remark.
This site is for men and not for homosexuals and hors to spread their dogma and try to convince us that their ill behavior is good, and anyone that goes against such sick conduct is labeled a 'holy one and a hater'. They try to make evil fair-seeming! Sorry kid, I'm a man not a chump!

So Cyrano takes the truth I speak to heart and now regardless of how well my response is to a thread he takes issue with it because of my stance on homosexuality. I think he stated that he wasn't a homosexual but he takes no offense of that behavior. I told him to keep his morals (or lack thereof) to himself and to not ridicule those who disagree with such a disagreeable act!

Cyrano, you sound like you are a 'bookish' 15 year old. You know 'words' but when you put them together they just don't make sense. How old are you, son"? You use the words of a wise man, but in the mouth and mind of a fool, words tend to lose all meaning! Where is your own original thought? You and fools like you only encourage me to post more, and I shall double my efforts if only to counteract and put to shame your effeminate thinking and ill-advised counsel.

Your comments on this thread proves a lack of insight on your part on such simple matters. You don’t see the irrationality of this girl that proposes to a guy that she is not even courting nor does he wish to court her and never had a proper ‘date’!!. Just because a woman wants a man so badly and he shuns her, is she yet expecting him to make an even greater and HUGER commitment? This is irrational behavior!! If MVPlaya didn’t want her as a g/f, what the hell makes her think that he wants her as a wife!!!! Think Cyrano, think!!! Don’t just take an opposing view because you don’t like the mind that speaks the truth. When you do this you reject the ‘reality’ of things and you make yourself look very foolish in the process. Your envy and pride are blinding you! And pride cometh before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. .

Traps, read the thread by dj ‘self control’ titled, “It would be so much easier to be gay”. On the first page Cyrano makes an unprovoked attack against me and then this escalates throughout the thread where I leave him crying. Now go to the first page of this thread and look who “comes out the closet” again to instigate this feud. Need I say more..

Sorry MVPlaya for my post, but Cyrano’s last response was an attack against me and not for your edification.

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

A few quick points for 'edification' purposes...

1) The argument here is not whether or not she was behaving rationally. We all agree that she wasn't. The discrepency here stems from the fact that I know better than to expect her to behave rationally whereas you seem to be shocked by her seeming inability to do so. She is a woman. She will cry when she's rejected, no matter how worthy she is of that rejection. If you hold everyone else to the same standard of 'rationality' as you hold yourself then you can never account for those who fall short of that mark, and henceforth are unqualified to comment for lack of foresight.

2) My 'Holy' remark was referring to this crusade you're on to run sosuave through your own personal crucible and mold the minds of those impressionable newbies to think more like you, an embittered self-aggrandizing middle-aged egotist. Having already demonstrated your inability to reconcile yourself with others of opposing viewpoints and thus your inability to truly understand a given situation, you are not only a pompous fire-brand, but inherently dangerous as well.

I do not chastise you for your position on homosexuality, but rather your grating and self-indulgent airs of (unqualified) superiority. If my 'Holy' remark was meant to slander you because of your position on homosexuality, then I would not only seek to slander you but every other DJ who agrees with you on such a trifling point as that, I might even dedicate a post to the fact. I can agree to disagree on such things because no head-way can be made and its just one fascet of a person's world-view, and not a particularly important one to me either. No sir, I knew you were a charlattan long before I knew your stance on that issue.

3) Son? please. I'm hardly the type of person to hide behind words. My words are backed by experience; that of myself, my forebearers and those that I have witnessed and been party to first-hand. You're not talking to an effete bookworm incapable of basic human interaction, with the life experience which reflects a secluded life-style. You are talking to a man well-versed in the art of bending a woman to his will. My manhood speaks for itself. I don't need some hyper-inflated self-important middle-aged moron with no better use of his time than sermonizing to total strangers to tell me which side of that fence I fall on.

Affectionately your's,

-Cyrano

 

[Krassus]

Damn, she must feel really horrible right now. You shouldn't have left her there like that. Go talk to her man, for real.

 

[MVPlaya]

Wow, I went over to my friends last night. I didn't bring it up at first because there's some gossipy Attention Whores there. I mean I love em, theyre great friends and they hook me up with their hot friends but something like this could not be kept secret by them, ask Iqqi or Sexy_Malibu whether they could hold this a secret if a male friend of them told them. I told my closer friends later (3 guys), two of em were from the FR I typed the other day. Well, one was shocked, the other two cracked up and started making jokes for half an hour. I guess I needed that to kill the edge of the whole situation. Right now I'm a lot more clear-minded and calm. I've resolved to go and talk to her and see whats going on, I don't think this was purely her attraction to me, maybe something else played into this as well. Anyway, its all conjecture at this point, I guess I'll see when I get a hold of her.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Cyrano, please quit hijacking other DJ's thread by spewing your non-sensical rambling diatribes. After your last post you now sound like an angry 13 old kid! The problem you have with me is not in the counsel that I gave, because my advice ranks a thousandfold over yours. You are angry because my mind exudes masculinity and confidence when I gave "on the point" counsel. When my words are set aside to your weak unconvincing counsel you look like the effemnate pvssy that you are. This is what angers you - you hate that others who are in their right mind prefer the counsel of a man and not from an effiminate mind such as yours. Don't blame for me your femininity. Be a man!!!!

Like a bytch, you like attention - you are an attention getting hor. Quit instigating others and start giving manly advice!

JEALOUS AND HATEFUL BYTCH!!! I know your type!!!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

MVP,

Bring a psychologist and a psychiatrist with you, when you talk to this girl!

Metal,
I take issue with the 'REASON' she was crying and has nothing to do with her crying tears or her emotional upheaval - it is not abnormal to see a woman in this state of being. Her crying is a NON-ISSUE!

Read my above post stating the 'irrationality' of her mindset and the psychotic bent to this whole situation. MVP never courted her nor had did he pursue her even though he had many inviting opportunities to do so. So here comes "CRAZY" woman asking him to marry her when he didin't even want to date her!!!!HUH???

Only a crazy, or an effiminate person doesn't see this abnormal situation for what it is - she is a PSYCHOTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MVPlaya]

PR_L,

Although I never courted her I am a flirtatious guy and I do occasionally kino. I've actually used certain women as practice targets. Although... in this case... I haven't kissed her / closed her or anything. Just being my fairly flirtatious self.

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

I mean I love em, theyre great friends and they hook me up with their hot friends but something like this could not be kept secret by them, ask Iqqi or Sexy_Malibu whether they could hold this a secret if a male friend of them told them.

Please. I already told everyone I know the story.

ha ha. Kidding. I'm relatively good at keeping secrets actually, but WOW this is such a whopper. I don't know if ANYONE could really keep this. I wouldn't tell anyone else, male or female, it's so embarrassing for her.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, you gave her kino and she asks you to marry her You are OVER-DJING!

You are 'The Master' of all the master Don Juans...I bow down to you on a bended knee in humility and respect, oh mighty DJ.

But don't get the idea that I'm proposing to you!


Bizarre thinking, bizarre, bizarre, bizarre, ad infinitum!!!!!

 

[princelydeeds]

All I can say is man the b!tch is, "NUCKIN FUTS." Whatever you do don't try to counsel her, don't try to help her, just leave her alone. She's a rape or domestic abuse charge waiting to happen. Leave her alone and avoid her at all cost.

I had a crazy broad like this once. When I was in college, I banged a broad on the racquet ball courts one night after a party. The chick somehow found out where I lived and just kept showing up at my room (we did not have co-ed visitation at my school). The situation didnt end very pretty.

Leave her alone. Shes crazy

 

[MVPlaya]

The Aftermath



Okay, so I had my convo with the girl who proposed to me. We met at her place and talked for several hours. I learned a lot that I will not share here but, essentially, her proposal was the result of a couple factors. She told confided in me that she had been attracted to me for some time and thought that this was mutual to some degree, most likely because I am fairly flirtatious. Another factor was that there was a lot of upheaval in her life and she looked at marriage with me as some form of escape. She said she was still interested in me and hinted that she would still want to go on a date with me, this time with (A LOT) less pressure.

I will not pursue that option.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Yes, just as I stated in my prior posts...an escape from 'reality' She is an 'psychotic'!

psy·cho·sis (si-k?sis) noun
plural psy·cho·ses (-sez)

A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

MVPlaya, you did right by staying in your own reality!

 

[iqqi]

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