Using money to attract women without getting used

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If I focus I’m sure I can be making six figures in my thirties. At least 100k a year. Until then just being with escorts is fine for me. I only like women in their 20s, preferably mid 20s. My genetics make getting abs a big pain in the ass and that paired with the fact I will be over 30, my looks won’t be enough. I’m not a rap battler, so my “game” won’t be good enough. I’m going for using money to attract women, but I want to make sure I’m getting ***** from them if they are benefiting from my money. What’s the best way to do this?

So basically what you are saying is instead of being a loser that can't get girls off his own back you want to become a loser with a bit of money and hope you attract them that way ?

Is that right ? because thats how i am reading it

It's a terrible play because the types of women you are going to attract are the types that will go to great lengths to actually destroy your entire life

Gold diggers , narcissist and physcopaths ........i can promise you now after sex they are going to give you more trouble than you could possibly imagine

By all means make a good salary but do not allow it to define you in your pursuit of a woman because it's going to backfire .....heavily
 

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This is good insight. By local income, what do define as local? The city? The county? Her social circle within that locale?
Her viewpoint only. If she works, the men she works with are included. The people that live around her, family, social circle, city. The ppl she has access with and is comparing lifestyle with. Social circle is by far the biggest impact because she has access to all of those guys all of the time and the women spend a good amount of time comparing the men.
 

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Her viewpoint only. If she works, the men she works with are included. The people that live around her, family, social circle, city. The ppl she has access with and is comparing lifestyle with. Social circle is by far the biggest impact because she has access to all of those guys all of the time and the women spend a good amount of time comparing the men.
I like this clarification. Let's expand. White women with BA/BS degrees or higher between the ages 25-34 and living in metro areas of 200,000 or more typically make between $50,000 - $100,000. The women who fit this description are prevalent on dating apps in mid-sized or larger metro areas. To impress this woman and enhanced the odds she perceives you as something special, the guy would need to make $500,000+ to impress this "yuppie" 25-34 year old woman.

I thought the minimum threshold was around $200,000 annual income or $500,000 net worth if the man is under 40. You think it is higher than that.
 

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I like this clarification. Let's expand. White women with BA/BS degrees or higher between the ages 25-34 and living in metro areas of 200,000 or more typically make between $50,000 - $100,000. The women who fit this description are prevalent on dating apps in mid-sized or larger metro areas. To impress this woman and enhanced the odds she perceives you as something special, the guy would need to make $500,000+ to impress this "yuppie" 25-34 year old woman.

I thought the minimum threshold was around $200,000 annual income or $500,000 net worth if the man is under 40. You think it is higher than that.
yes, I do, if you ever travel to locations that the income is very low you will see the effect clearly, or if your income is 10 times the local you will notice a change in behavior of almost everyone including women.

The woman you describe has access to men in her workplace, perhaps her boss or boss's boss. They all have a BMW if they want it.

Must be much more than the better-looking guys she has access to.

Think... is your money enough that it would impress her friends and change her lifestyle. If playing that game.

Social media makes the cost of this action more expensive because it can extend her view and reach.

I assume you have other value so it doesn't really matter. But for the guy that will use only this the number is bigger or the location is different.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Are you kidding me? Most women in this era are making 100 to 200k are a norm these day. And you wanted to show them you have 100k? You already long lost without knowing. Women wants an attractive/appealing guys.. Period.. Your money better spend at. CLub tagging an escort along. That would be much productive for you... If not use them as a tool for improving yourself.. Physiccally/mentally to be desired enough.
 

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Are you kidding me? Most women in this era are making 100 to 200k are a norm these day. And you wanted to show them you have 100k? You already long lost without knowing. Women wants an attractive/appealing guys.. Period.. Your money better spend at. CLub tagging an escort along. That would be much productive for you... If not use them as a tool for improving yourself.. Physiccally/mentally to be desired enough.
So the avg female income is $150k?
 

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Are you kidding me? Most women in this era are making 100 to 200k are a norm these day. And you wanted to show them you have 100k? You already long lost without knowing. Women wants an attractive/appealing guys.. Period.. Your money better spend at. CLub tagging an escort along. That would be much productive for you... If not use them as a tool for improving yourself.. Physiccally/mentally to be desired enough.
No, most women are NOT making that much…
 

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Most women in this era are making 100 to 200k are a norm these day. Women wants an attractive/appealing guys..
No, most women are NOT making that much…
your are correct,


in 2019 the per capita average was 34,103, household is more...
This is a great example of letting one's immediate surroundings form a perception. Perhaps @Focal core is hanging around women 30+ with BA/BS degrees or more, likely master's level degrees or more. Female lawyers, female mid-level business managers (Director level in a corporate environment), high level females sales professionals, and certain female medical professionals are making $100-200k. That's a different strata of woman as compared to the women who work as Walmart cashiers. Both the Walmart cashier and the divorce attorney are participants in the sexual marketplace but they go for different men.
 

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This is a great example of letting one's immediate surroundings form a perception. Perhaps @Focal core is hanging around women 30+ with BA/BS degrees or more, likely master's level degrees or more. Female lawyers, female mid-level business managers (Director level in a corporate environment), high level females sales professionals, and certain female medical professionals are making $100-200k. That's a different strata of woman as compared to the women who work as Walmart cashiers. Both the Walmart cashier and the divorce attorney are participants in the sexual marketplace but they go for different men.
you got it. but the social media mixes it up so that SOME Walmart girls will think they are lawyers... If you seek and find a social circle that has an average income in it and you arrive with 300k a year and you are not an idiot you will get noticed.

I had a corporate job in the distant past and was in a motorcycle club. I was about 5 to 10 times the average of the group and definitely the highest one. I got approached by friends of newcomers and friends of members, alas however I was an idiot at the time... I had to be extra stupid a few times, where is the time machine to go slap myself silly.
 

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This is a great example of letting one's immediate surroundings form a perception. Perhaps @Focal core is hanging around women 30+ with BA/BS degrees or more, likely master's level degrees or more. Female lawyers, female mid-level business managers (Director level in a corporate environment), high level females sales professionals, and certain female medical professionals are making $100-200k. That's a different strata of woman as compared to the women who work as Walmart cashiers. Both the Walmart cashier and the divorce attorney are participants in the sexual marketplace but they go for different men.
Exactly.. My ex wife is an attorney, my ex gf dentist, another ex an executive.. And im surrounded by those women, those women doesnt seek a wealthy man.. They want the best Dna, best personality skills and a great lover.. Money doesnt mean shlt to them.. Theyre more tolerable and well mannered. I try a nurse one time it burn me really bad. Shlt never going into that route again.. Lower hanging fruit it comes with lower level treatment.. Really not advisable if youre 150k earner.
 

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I wasn't looking for special treatment. Merely stating having a large salary and nice car doesn't magically make women flock to you.
What made you think having an 100k and a nice car made you speacial? Dont get me wrong.. There's millions people with same attributes as youre out there.. The game should start from yourself.. Your SMV face, body, personality. Good looking man are harder to come by compared to higher earner ones. Thats why theres huge difference of the way women treating you if youre at least an 8.
 

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What made you think having an 100k and a nice car made you speacial? Dont get me wrong.. There's millions people with same attributes as youre out there.. The game should start from yourself.. Your SMV face, body, personality. Good looking man are harder to come by compared to higher earner ones. Thats why theres huge difference of the way women treating you if youre at least an 8.
People can’t read on this forum. I feel like 90% of the people are are trying to start arguments for their egos sake.

Place went downhill.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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Exactly.. My ex wife is an attorney, my ex gf dentist, another ex an executive.. And im surrounded by those women, those women doesnt seek a wealthy man.. They want the best Dna, best personality skills and a great lover.. Money doesnt mean shlt to them.. Theyre more tolerable and well mannered. I try a nurse one time it burn me really bad. Shlt never going into that route again.. Lower hanging fruit it comes with lower level treatment.. Really not advisable if youre 150k earner.
Provider game does not work on the women who make $100k+. When women make $100k+, they expect their boyfriends will have the same salary level. They'll sometimes have casual sex with a younger man with a nice body and lower income, but they don't take those interactions too seriously.

Provider game doesn't work on the $50-$100k earning women either. They make enough money to cover their needs. Their hypergamous natures will have them seeking higher end guys for longer term relationships. With the right frame (not provider), they can be had. They won't treat a guy making low six figures as anything special. Additionally, it isn't difficult to make more than a 27 year old woman with a BA making $55k a year in some lower level marketing/public relations/sales job.

Provider game has the best chance of working on the women who make less than $50k. A lot of these women are low class and respond to strong masculine displays. Women in this income grouping don't need the money because a lot of them are getting government benefits. A guy making $130k a year has a better chance of impressing a woman by using money making $40k (above govt benefits cutoff) than one making $70k or $100k. The $40k earning woman has a better chance of treating him better than the $70 or 100k earning one.
 

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People can’t read on this forum. I feel like 90% of the people are are trying to start arguments for their egos sake.

Place went downhill.
No, when we are afraid of reality we tend to avoid them. Get around them and back to when it came from when it all fails. One would never ascend if they tend to swerve from it.
 

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What made you think having an 100k and a nice car made you speacial? Dont get me wrong.. There's millions people with same attributes as youre out there.. The game should start from yourself.. Your SMV face, body, personality. Good looking man are harder to come by compared to higher earner ones. Thats why theres huge difference of the way women treating you if youre at least an 8.
Provider game does not work on the women who make $100k+. When women make $100k+, they expect their boyfriends will have the same salary level. They'll sometimes have casual sex with a younger man with a nice body and lower income, but they don't take those interactions too seriously.

Provider game doesn't work on the $50-$100k earning women either. They make enough money to cover their needs. Their hypergamous natures will have them seeking higher end guys for longer term relationships. With the right frame (not provider), they can be had. They won't treat a guy making low six figures as anything special. Additionally, it isn't difficult to make more than a 27 year old woman with a BA making $55k a year in some lower level marketing/public relations/sales job.

Provider game has the best chance of working on the women who make less than $50k. A lot of these women are low class and respond to strong masculine displays. Women in this income grouping don't need the money because a lot of them are getting government benefits. A guy making $130k a year has a better chance of impressing a woman by using money making $40k (above govt benefits cutoff) than one making $70k or $100k. The $40k earning woman has a better chance of treating him better than the $70 or 100k earning one.
We should not "impress" them with our money. Women still desire men who are arousing. It helps that your income is in a similar "class".
 

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This is a great example of letting one's immediate surroundings form a perception. Perhaps @Focal core is hanging around women 30+ with BA/BS degrees or more, likely master's level degrees or more. Female lawyers, female mid-level business managers (Director level in a corporate environment), high level females sales professionals, and certain female medical professionals are making $100-200k. That's a different strata of woman as compared to the women who work as Walmart cashiers. Both the Walmart cashier and the divorce attorney are participants in the sexual marketplace but they go for different men.
TBH I tend to prefer these "lower" quality women too. The broke trashy club girl. It's practically my fetish at this point.
 
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