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Unusually attractive guy in college from a couple years ago, and girls' reactions

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OP, in the old days, the gurus said to befriend these “naturals” and learn how they do things.

You can learn how to ACT like you are 6’8,” and then you will get the same results lol.
Kinda miss those days in the late 00s and early 10s...where success is achieved through the same path regardless who you are.

Something like befriend a rich guy and see how he acts then act the same and finally buy that ferrari...
 

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If two people are attracted to each other and they both know it, then sex comes easily and naturally.

The problem is that guys are so used to dealing with women that are making things difficult and awkward that they begin to see that as normal.
Yes, although I am not sure how serious the guy was with that girl, since I saw him make out with a different girl just a couple days later.
He seemed to switch girlfriends very often, like several times a month.
 

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If two people are attracted to each other and they both know it, then sex comes easily and naturally.

The problem is that guys are so used to dealing with women that are making things difficult and awkward that they begin to see that as normal.
yep. Happens in the approach too.
It's a bit like when one is still deep into PUA and they are getting rejected and they are like 'why?!! What did I do wrong? Did I neg her too late? Was my approach angle off?' etc etc. They don't realise that the problem is they are trying to 'seduce' someone who doesn't want to be seduced (by you).

As you say, it's easy to forget that when a girl is attracted, everything kind of takes care of itself! They WILL usually even escalate in some way if you fail too!

And again, from a cold approach perspective, it's a bit like the whole 'running out of things to say' issue. I used to give myself a hard time for this, but nowadays, I realise it's just a function of lack of attraction. Interested girls will take up the slack! I used to do so much work and waste effort in order to give her an 'emotional spike' and try to 'keep convos going' etc.

OP, in the old days, the gurus said to befriend these “naturals” and learn how they do things.

You can learn how to ACT like you are 6’8,” and then you will get the same results lol.
I remember writing a field report on reddit (possibly shared it here too) where my slayer friend was killing it and I was having a hard time, and the amount of cope from posters about how I need to copy what he was doing was so funny. Like, I mentioned how he was playing the fruit machines and girls were approaching him, and they were like ''He's not getting approached because of his looks! Girls literally don't care about looks!! It's because he's giving off non-needy body langauge by playing the fruit machines'.

What made it funnier was the same posters were the ones who probably gave me a hard time in a prior FR for not being proactive enough in the night and being too passive.

OP, as for your question, I guess the answer is yes, although it's not common. These guys are rare. Girls will do a lot of the work if they are very attracted. They're really not an entirely different species to us men despite what pua coaches try to tell you lol. I have two big time slayer chad friends. I don't think i've ever seen them get approached in the day time (although I know your friends situation is different being in college etc). Only at night. Only thing they get in the day are INSANE approAch invitations and IOI's etc
 

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Yes, although I am not sure how serious the guy was with that girl, since I saw him make out with a different girl just a couple days later.
He seemed to switch girlfriends very often, like several times a month.
It's not about being serious or not. The issue is that they were both attracted to each other.

I've experienced stuff like this myself, occasionally. When a woman really likes you it's obvious. She'll basically do anything you want.
 

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This is a subject close to my heart. As I consider myself a solid 7 if not an 8. I'll include a picture of myself to let you all decide. BUT, despite that, I can only get 5-6's with the occasional 7. I am the WORST at social interactions, borderline Asperger's (though I got tested and am apparently not on the spectrum) and just suck at game in general.

So I assume more important is game than looks. IFFY6223.JPG IFFY6223.JPG
 

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This is a subject close to my heart. As I consider myself a solid 7 if not an 8. I'll include a picture of myself to let you all decide. BUT, despite that, I can only get 5-6's with the occasional 7. I am the WORST at social interactions, borderline Asperger's (though I got tested and am apparently not on the spectrum) and just suck at game in general.

So I assume more important is game than looks. View attachment 5828 View attachment 5828
To me you look like a normal guy - not overweight, bald or old. So I'd imagine a certain percentage of women will find you attractive and if you're their type, then some might really like you.

The thing is to find women that you like you rather than to waste time trying to convince those that are on the fence. If you notice how women behave when they're with a guy they like, that can help you see the signs when they do that around you. It can also help to watch how they behave around men they don't like and the kind of excuses they come up with.

What's always interesting is how indirect women are. When they like you they make things easy, they put themselves in close proximity and act friendly etc, but women rarely actually make a move. If you're used to that kind of behaviour, it would be easy to think that they're just being friendly.
 

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To me you look like a normal guy - not overweight, bald or old. So I'd imagine a certain percentage of women will find you attractive and if you're their type, then some might really like you.

The thing is to find women that you like you rather than to waste time trying to convince those that are on the fence. If you notice how women behave when they're with a guy they like, that can help you see the signs when they do that around you. It can also help to watch how they behave around men they don't like and the kind of excuses they come up with.

What's always interesting is how indirect women are. When they like you they make things easy, they put themselves in close proximity and act friendly etc, but women rarely actually make a move. If you're used to that kind of behaviour, it would be easy to think that they're just being friendly.
Really just normal? I always assumed I was a 7/8. Still do. I'm 33 btw.

Yes women are friendly to me but if I do make a move I mess it up so it doesn't matter. Hence why I say game is more important. What is the use of looks without game if you can't capitalize on the interest?
 

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OP, as for your question, I guess the answer is yes, although it's not common. These guys are rare. Girls will do a lot of the work if they are very attracted. They're really not an entirely different species to us men despite what pua coaches try to tell you lol. I have two big time slayer chad friends. I don't think i've ever seen them get approached in the day time (although I know your friends situation is different being in college etc). Only at night. Only thing they get in the day are INSANE approAch invitations and IOI's etc
Yes, I noticed the guy in my class get multiple indicators of interest as well, such as winks and eyebrow flashes, or just staring and blushing in general.

One funny scenario that I noticed one time was when he sat down in a lecture room right before the lecture had started, and one girl stood in front of him and talked to him, and he would seem to repeatedly rest his eyes on her breasts or her belly for several seconds - that girl didn't seem the least bit uncomfortable by that, she just seemed more and more flattered the longer he looked, and then sort of ended up giggling and blushing like mad before he made eye contact with her again, and then she continued flirting.
I guess he was used to getting away with looking at girls like that, and knew when he was free to do that - that girl probably interpreted this as a promising sign that he was attracted to her.

I am not sure how common it is for guys to get positive reactions when they openly check out a girl's body like this, but I guess it is appreciated if that girl is very attracted to him.
 

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@Michael00 - How did this guy speak? Did he have a really confident, resonate voice? I've discovered that's huge in attracting women. So I'm wondering if that was a contributing factor here.
 

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@Michael00 - How did this guy speak? Did he have a really confident, resonate voice? I've discovered that's huge in attracting women. So I'm wondering if that was a contributing factor here.
He spoke with a dark, clear and relaxed voice.
He also was very relaxed in general, but would be very assertive when that was necessary, although not more than he needed to be.

He also got instant attention when he said something, so that if he sat together with some girls and said something, then they immediately paid full attention to him.
 

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@Michael00 - How did this guy speak? Did he have a really confident, resonate voice? I've discovered that's huge in attracting women. So I'm wondering if that was a contributing factor here.
I guess I should also add that he turned out to show excellent leader qualities when he worked in groups with some of the girls in something.
Maybe that was something that made him extra attractive to them.
 

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same with guys who are hung, dont believe for one second women arent obsessed with a guy who has a big unit,

Ive seen them giggle, melt, and literally listen to orders.

You can DM like you have special needs, and they'll still come round yours
Are you speaking from personal experience, and how extreme size-wise are we talking?

I'm just curious because I'm easily in the top 5% or so in one dimension and well-above average in the other based on most reputable available statistics. According to some online analysis of porn, I'd be bigger or the same size as most porn dudes (including those like the "BBC" niche). Yet, I can only think of one time at all this has ever attracted or kept a woman to any degree. I had an on-off GF for a few years when I was young and naive. One time we were on a break and I heard a story she was out somewhere and guys were hitting on her and her friend asked why she kept rejecting others and getting back with me- "he has a Big D." Also, when she broke up with the last time her parting words were "I hate you and your big penis." However, every other woman has treated it as an insignificant thing and probably never even mentioned the size. I even brought it up with one (it was a stupid conversation on my part) and mentioned that I knew size statistics and where I fell. She replied something along the lines of "Well, then you know if you are big or not and don't need me to comment on it."

I know for a fact I've been "rejected" for smaller guys, shorter guys, fatter guys, uglier guys. etc. So to me, a lot of this seems like blackpill fantasy to me, too. Except for maybe extreme outliers like guys bigger than anyone whose ever been in porn or 7-foot GigaChads, or whatever.
 

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Well it wasn't specifically his height - that was just one of the things that made him stand out, since he was the tallest guy in our class, which I guess was considered attractive to some of them.
But it was more the fact that his overall looks - such as face and body type - made a very strong impression on those girls, so that a lot of them started to hit on him.

I was a bit surprised at just how easy all of this seemed for him, since I haven't quite seen anything like that before.
But maybe this is what happens if a large number of 18-19-year-old girls are in the same class as a guy who happens to be considered the most attractive guy there.

I am personally about 5'10 tall and maybe 8/10 in terms of looks, and I haven't had any problems with getting girls interested, and I have "won" against taller guys, and guys who have been more strong-looking;
it just became significantly more challenging for me at this particular school since this guy turned out to have a significant general advantage in looks over everyone else.
 
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I taught this was a forum to help each other out with game. Why the hell do you care about an overall more attractive guy, who pulls all the girls? This is not uncommon , there are such human beings. We know this since the beginning of time. This sounds straight like a fantasy of yours brother.
@SargeMaximus you are not an eight.
Can we stop crying/Obersving that hotter people get hotter girls.
 
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