Undecided on vasectomy

[GoodMan32]

Many of you are aware of my reasoning for preferring older broads.

Many of you have also urged me to go for broads my own age/younger (as that's who I'd have the best chance with)

After giving some thought to a vasectomy, I'm thinking of looking into getting one. Still undecided, however.

The upside of getting a vasectomy:

• No more phobia of pregnancy (Even though a vasectomy isn't foolproof, it's pretty damn effective. A vasectomy is probably less likely to lead to pregnancy than barebacking a 46 year old broad is). I'd be able to expand my market.

Then here's the downside:

• When faced with the possibility of expanding my market, part of me realized I (in a way) like having a limited market (as it keeps my inner dog in check). If I miraculously became able (thanks to a vasectomy) to bang any legal aged broad who would have me, that could be dangerous. I'd run the risk of going overboard (and becoming a total dog)

 

[SW15]

If you don't think you can resolve your pregnancy phobia, then a vasectomy could make more sense for you. I don't know if it makes total sense, but I do think it could help you get shorter term sex from conventional dating. I think you need to resolve some other issues more so than the vasectomy issue. Condoms are a very good solution. The condom + birth control solution is very effective. A lot of women near your age are already using birth control and you could use a condom. Problem solved!

Disclosing that you have a vasectomy will shrink your market with childless women under 40. Most women in their 20s/30s do like the idea of having children someday and many will drop a man if they find out he has a vasectomy.

The typical guy getting a vasectomy is a married beta male with children. Married beta males with children often get a vasectomy because they think it will improve their sex lives with their wives. There have been wives who have withheld sex citing a fear of pregnancy. In many cases, these married betas find out that removing the possibility of future pregnancies isn't fixing their marital sex life. A divorce happens and the single dad beta with a vasectomy starts having trouble dating new women longer term due to both his single dad status and because he's removed the possibility of having children in the future.

It's my opinion that vasectomies rarely solve dating/relationship problems.

 

[sevbucmash]

If you already have children, then why not. But if you have no children, you will be putting an end to your liniage -- think of that as 100% failure in life.

 

[New_Journey]

Many of you are aware of my reasoning for preferring older broads.

Many of you have also urged me to go for broads my own age/younger (as that's who I'd have the best chance with)

After giving some thought to a vasectomy, I'm thinking of looking into getting one. Still undecided, however.

The upside of getting a vasectomy:

• No more phobia of pregnancy (Even though a vasectomy isn't foolproof, it's pretty damn effective. A vasectomy is probably less likely to lead to pregnancy than barebacking a 46 year old broad is). I'd be able to expand my market.

Then here's the downside:

• When faced with the possibility of expanding my market, part of me realized I (in a way) like having a limited market (as it keeps my inner dog in check). If I miraculously became able (thanks to a vasectomy) to bang any legal aged broad who would have me, that could be dangerous. I'd run the risk of going overboard (and becoming a total dog)

First of all, you don't fvck so that's irrelevant. Second, you should get it, men like you are easy to trick, take advantage of, you'll end up getting some 304 pregnant, therefore part of the statistics.

You should get it, and work on your life to become a quality man.

think of that as 100% failure in life.

Says who? You? And who are you again? I don't have children, I got it done, and my life is awesome.

Failure is having a baby momma who fvcks random guys where she lives with your kid, failure is not being able to see your kids cause the baby momma uses them as weapons against you, failure is seeing your kids resent you for not being there when your baby momma talks $hit about you to them. Failure is being part of the statistics where children don't have a father to teach them.

Many men in here are exactly in that situation, they think "muh kid" is a measurement of success.

To have a kid you just need cvmmin inside and 9 months, literally the entire generation is build for that, so having kids is not success. Its just biology.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

To have a kid you just need cvmmin inside and 9 months, literally the entire generation is build for that, so having kids is not success. Its just biology.

On the other hand, raising kids to become critical thinkers and mature adults who shoulder their responsibility and accountability certainly is an accomplishment.

 

[GoodMan32]

If you don't think you can resolve your pregnancy phobia, then a vasectomy could make more sense for you. I don't know if it makes total sense, but I do think it could help you get shorter term sex from conventional dating. I think you need to resolve some other issues more so than the vasectomy issue. Condoms are a very good solution. The condom + birth control solution is very effective. A lot of women near your age are already using birth control and you could use a condom. Problem solved!

Disclosing that you have a vasectomy will shrink your market with childless women under 40. Most women in their 20s/30s do like the idea of having children someday and many will drop a man if they find out he has a vasectomy.

The typical guy getting a vasectomy is a married beta male with children. Married beta males with children often get a vasectomy because they think it will improve their sex lives with their wives. There have been wives who have withheld sex citing a fear of pregnancy. In many cases, these married betas find out that removing the possibility of future pregnancies isn't fixing their marital sex life. A divorce happens and the single dad beta with a vasectomy starts having trouble dating new women longer term due to both his single dad status and because he's removed the possibility of having children in the future.

It's my opinion that vasectomies rarely solve dating/relationship problems.

My pregnancy phobia isn't able to be resolved. It used to simply be about not wanting to support/raise children.

As I've gotten older, however, I've come to the conclusion I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes under any circumstance (even if I, for whatever reason, managed to get out of raising/supporting my progeny)

I'm aware a lot of broads my age use birth control. I don't trust leaving the contraception decision in the woman's hands (you're speaking to a man who once made a woman provide medical documentation of getting a birth control shot)

Condoms put the decision in the hands of the man, I know. I've had condoms break/slip off, however.

I had an older college classmate (he was 43 or 44) who mentioned to me once that he got a vasectomy. One time later on, in a setting where others were present, I asked him some questions about his vasectomy (as I was interested in possibly getting one). Anyway, he didn't like that I was broadcasting the fact he got snipped in front of others. At the time, I had no idea why he'd be opposed to others hearing that he got snipped.

Your comment about a man's dating pool shrinking finally allowed me to make sense of why he didn't want word of his vasectomy to get out.

Your comment about wives telling beta husbands they don't want sex because they don't want to get pregnant (so then he gets snipped, only to find out the wife still doesn't want sex), obviously that means the wife simply isn't into him. When I cited pregnancy phobia as an excuse to get out of sex after a first date at 21, the broad (in retrospect) probably thought I simply wasn't into her.

 

[GoodMan32]

If you already have children, then why not. But if you have no children, you will be putting an end to your liniage -- think of that as 100% failure in life.

I don't have kids.

As I said on my last post, I don't want to pollute a woman's womb with my genes.

 

[GoodMan32]

First of all, you don't fvck so that's irrelevant. Second, you should get it, men like you are easy to trick, take advantage of, you'll end up getting some 304 pregnant, therefore part of the statistics.

You should get it, and work on your life to become a quality man.


Says who? You? And who are you again? I don't have children, I got it done, and my life is awesome.

Failure is having a baby momma who fvcks random guys where she lives with your kid, failure is not being able to see your kids cause the baby momma uses them as weapons against you, failure is seeing your kids resent you for not being there when your baby momma talks $hit about you to them. Failure is being part of the statistics where children don't have a father to teach them.

Many men in here are exactly in that situation, they think "muh kid" is a measurement of success.

To have a kid you just need cvmmin inside and 9 months, literally the entire generation is build for that, so having kids is not success. Its just biology.

I fvck probably 2 dozen times per year. Just not the traditional way.

On that note, my pregnancy phobia has had an impact on getting laid the traditional way. In college, there were 2 separate instances when I opted out of sex after a first date, despite the fact we were both naked in bed.

Then in my first year out of college, I had an 8 month sexless relationship. The fact we both lived at home played a major role in why our relationship was sexless. My pregnancy phobia played a role too, however. There were times when we could have squeezed in some sex if it weren't for my phobia.

 

[SW15]

I had an older college classmate (he was 43 or 44) who mentioned to me once that he got a vasectomy. One time later on, in a setting where others were present, I asked him some questions about his vasectomy (as I was interested in possibly getting one). Anyway, he didn't like that I was broadcasting the fact he got snipped in front of others. At the time, I had no idea why he'd be opposed to others hearing that he got snipped.

Your comment about a man's dating pool shrinking finally allowed me to make sense of why he didn't want word of his vasectomy to get out.

Childless women under 40 tend to not want to long term date a man with a vasectomy. Childless women like to keep their options for future child bearing, even if they are on birth control at that moment.

A man with a vasectomy might see his longer term options improve with single moms who don't want more children. That's not a desirable group.

Having a vasectomy isn't that useful for short term sex either. A man with a vasectomy might elect to use condoms for STD prevention purposes in short term sex.

It's difficult for me to see how a vasectomy helps much with seduction.

I'm aware a lot of broads my age use birth control. I don't trust leaving the contraception decision in the woman's hands (you're speaking to a man who once made a woman provide medical documentation of getting a birth control shot)

Condoms put the decision in the hands of the man, I know. I've had condoms break/slip off, however.

You have the right idea in not leaving the contraception decision to the woman. That is Iron Rule of Tomassi #5.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #5
NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth.

You likely went further than most men would have in asking for documentation.

The risks of condoms slipping/breaking isn't that significant. It is also a good idea to check during sex that the condom is still intact. I do that.

 

[GoodMan32]

Childless women under 40 tend to not want to long term date a man with a vasectomy. Childless women like to keep their options for future child bearing, even if they are on birth control at that moment.

A man with a vasectomy might see his longer term options improve with single moms who don't want more children. That's not a desirable group.

Having a vasectomy isn't that useful for short term sex either. A man with a vasectomy might elect to use condoms for STD prevention purposes in short term sex.

It's difficult for me to see how a vasectomy helps much with seduction.



You have the right idea in not leaving the contraception decision to the woman. That is Iron Rule of Tomassi #5.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #5
NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth.

You likely went further than most men would have in asking for documentation.

The risks of condoms slipping/breaking isn't that significant. It is also a good idea to check during sex that the condom is still intact. I do that.

I've had a condom break 4 times. Even though that still means everything worked with the condom the vast majority of the time for me, 4 breakages is pretty alarming.

Luckily, 3 of the breakages happened with a woman in her 60s (and the other breakage happened with a 48 year old)

There was a slippage incident with a woman close in age to me back in 2022. That one really scared me. I've only been with under-45 broads twice since then. One of the under-45 broads I was with since then just so happened to be the same broad it slipped off with. The next time I banged her, I checked the condom throughout the sex to make sure it was staying on. Totally took the joy out of sex.

Even if a 45+ broad generally doesn't look as good as a young broad, the fact I can fvck away without having to check the condom makes up for it. On that note, the condom sometimes slipped off with the 45 year old married woman I had the affair with back at 23. I didn't give a damn about the slippage with her; she was old enough I felt comfortable. Hell, we eventually switched to bareback anyway.

You pointed out how even with a vasectomy, it's likely I'd still use a condom (for disease protection) when having casual sex with a young broad. You're probably right. But that'd still make a vasectomy worthwhile for me. As it is, I'm afraid to bang a young broad even with a condom.

 

[Borknagar]

Just get it done. I did and no regrets. Women simply cannot be trusted so it's best not to have any legal attachment to them be it marriage or children.

 

[The Duke]

I had one in my early 30's. The amount of women it stopped from wanting to have sex with me was 0%. There were very few that didn't continue or weren't interested in getting into a relationship with me because of the vasectomy or the fact I didn't want kids. I'd say the vast majority liked the idea of having kum shot inside of them and not risking pregnancy. Lol. Stop worrying about what others think, and do YOU. That's the biggest problem of why some struggle with women.

 

[SW15]

I had one in my early 30's. The amount of women it stopped from wanting to have sex with me was 0%. There were very few that didn't continue or weren't interested in getting into a relationship with me because of the vasectomy or the fact I didn't want kids. I'd say the vast majority liked the idea of having kum shot inside of them and not risking pregnancy.

It seems like you did what you wanted and had the confidence to pull it off. That's good! I've always said that seduction and retention are some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. What you describe is your personality helping your cause, though looks are likely also helping. Looks are #1.

 

[plumber]

If you ever got together with a woman that you really like.. and she really likes you then you might feel different about kids.

Its one of those things that you can not predict or know about now.

Try getting some of the younger women first. It would be a shame to get this done only to find out it doesn't help.

 

[corrector]

I had one in my early 30's. The amount of women it stopped from wanting to have sex with me was 0%. There were very few that didn't continue or weren't interested in getting into a relationship with me because of the vasectomy or the fact I didn't want kids. I'd say the vast majority liked the idea of having kum shot inside of them and not risking pregnancy. Lol. Stop worrying about what others think, and do YOU. That's the biggest problem of why some struggle with women.

I understand. You weeded out your own genes then.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Many of you are aware of my reasoning for preferring older broads.

Many of you have also urged me to go for broads my own age/younger (as that's who I'd have the best chance with)

After giving some thought to a vasectomy, I'm thinking of looking into getting one. Still undecided, however.

The upside of getting a vasectomy:

• No more phobia of pregnancy (Even though a vasectomy isn't foolproof, it's pretty damn effective. A vasectomy is probably less likely to lead to pregnancy than barebacking a 46 year old broad is). I'd be able to expand my market.

Then here's the downside:

• When faced with the possibility of expanding my market, part of me realized I (in a way) like having a limited market (as it keeps my inner dog in check). If I miraculously became able (thanks to a vasectomy) to bang any legal aged broad who would have me, that could be dangerous. I'd run the risk of going overboard (and becoming a total dog)

You're indecisive about many things, OP

 

[GoodMan32]

If you ever got together with a woman that you really like.. and she really likes you then you might feel different about kids.

Its one of those things that you can not predict or know about now.

Try getting some of the younger women first. It would be a shame to get this done only to find out it doesn't help.

Even with my generally bad luck, I've mentioned how I've turned down sex with young broads before (because of my pregnancy phobia). In other words, I am capable of getting young broads (at least every now and then)

With how badly I want to make sure I don't pollute a woman's womb with my genes, there's no way I'm changing my mind about kids.

 

[SW15]

I want to make sure I don't pollute a woman's womb with my genes, there's no way I'm changing my mind about kids.

I don't know how you got bad genes or why you think your genes are so bad.

Your dad played college football. Playing college football is often associated with being a Chad.

 

[Divorced w 3]

They are reversible. There is no downside. There is downside, however, to thinking the way you were thinking about this.

 

[GoodMan32]

I don't know how you got bad genes or why you think your genes are so bad.

Your dad played college football. Playing college football is often associated with being a Chad.

My dad playing college football (and then working his way into lucrative jobs) would certainly suggest good genes.

Then there's me. Autist, not football material at all, has yet to make even 40k per year (despite the fact I've been out of college for over a decade).

In all seriousness, it's not so much the ASD that makes me want to refrain from passing on my genes (if a man with ASD fathers a baby, there's only a 1.5% chance that baby will have ASD)

My racial admixture is the main reason I want my bloodline to end with me. Being a mix of Northern Euro and Southern Euro, I never looked entirely like any of my grandparents. I don't want to put the next generation through the same thing. I also don't want my children to be subjected to bullying for their body hair (Because of my Southern Euro side, I was hairier than most classmates growing up. And got bullied for it. I've undergone laser hair removal in some areas. Self-hatred sucks)