Two different kinds of cultures I have noticed women to be from over the years. (long controversial post warning)

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Lol my friend asked me that this morning and I said Italians are no different than other groups of people when it comes to racism against black. Show them you aren't a menace to society and their shell usually cracks. Now, the racism I find the worst is racism that stemmed from Anglo-Britain. That type of racism is the only racism that will reject money, safety, and progress to retain it. The UK has dropped this, but you can still see remnants of this type of racism in the Southern USA and South Africa. Shvt like Jim Crow, the one drop rule, and anti-libertarian racial policies in general uniquely existed in Anglo-sphere countries. You want to destroy any pro-capitalist/libertarian argument, give them a history lesson on any former British colony lol.

I don't know much about the modern Italian work ethic, but I know good amount of hard-working well-off ones. I love their cuisine, history, culture, and women. Sure they got some bad apples, but what group of people doesn't lol.
I will challenge you on that because modern day England has made massive strides with racial integration compared to modern day Italy which is practically like Alabama in the 1950s. Just look at how unfairly they treated Mario Balotelli for being black under a decade ago. However, it is normal to think that Anglo-Saxons are the bad guys when you live in the south or have spent most of your life there because you haven't been exposed to how worse other groups are.

Even to this day, the idea of racial integration is very foreign in Italy compared to the rest of Europe. They worship blonde hair and blue eyed people there (despite being mostly swarthy themselves) and treat blacks and foreigners like trash compared to how the Scandinavians, Germans, Brits, and the French treat them.

Sure, some Italian American in the south or out west will be chill with you because they are not connected to their community. However, I promise you, whatever racism you thought you ran into with Southern Whites will seem like a cakewalk when you deal with an Italian American from New York or New Jersey. I promise you that whatever integration you had into American society amongst southern whites will seem like a blessing once you are forced to hang around the guidos in NY and NJ.

The Anglos might have been racist pricks but at least they moved on and tried to right their wrongs. Italian Americans in the northeast think the same way whites in Jim Crow south used to, thankfully they are too incompetent to actually do anything outside of their dumpy boroughs no one wants to live in.
 
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Okay I’m done talking history :rofl:
Hey man, I don't want to attack your tastes but as someone who considers you a friend, I do want to warn you, that is all. I get that it is normal to like some cultures and yeah, Italian culture unfortunately gets way too overhyped. However, I do caution you to be weary of that entire country and its people since you are black. Italy is arguably the most racist country in Europe, I'd say even worse than Eastern Europe. They think like Jim Crow southerners and have a chip on their shoulder due to not being looked upon as white in the same way Scandinavians and Anglos are.

You are from the south so you have not had as much exposure to real Italians. I implore you to go to NYC and live there for a few years. TBH, I think you would slay like crazy there given that you seem to be a handsome guy. However, you will find that the guidos up there make the average racist in Alabama seem progressive and classy.

All of their racism does have a silver lining though, Italian women LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE them some black dudes. They love upsetting ole Tony and creating more Sicilians so you might be in luck there. However, you will immediately find after screwing with a few that they are overrated and not worth the headache.
 

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People in Catholic countries tend to be more impulsive genetically than ones in Protestant ones (hence not just materialism but corruption). Catholic countries tend to*need* the Catholic church as a control mechanism for the greater good; Protestant countries don't and that's why they revolted. I would say Italy is an exception, they are capable people but when the dudes can't get laid there it will be demotivating.
Yes sir! The church being the middle man and having the final word is why you have so much corruption in a lot of Catholic nations. It's not just that, I think it speaks more about the need for people to desperately fit in and not be free. It goes in line with their need to keep up the appearances and not think deeply because after all, why question anything the church says? IMO, a lot of the best ideas of modern society have come from Protestant countries. Even now, Catholic countries are behind the times are riddled with crime.

Northern Italy is capable, Southern Italy is a war torn Arab country with lipstick.

Speaking of getting laid, I think Catholic countries produce crappier women. The reason is that men are taught to worship women in those countries and those girls get spoiled. What you get as a result are a bunch of women who think they can do no wrong and act like that as well. Catholicism brings about feminism without accountability, making American feminism seem rational by comparison. TBH, I cannot think of any group of demographic that needs a Will Smith-tier slap across the face more than Italian women worldwide do.
 

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This is a controversial topic which may offend people and something I have talked to about with @BillyPilgrim, @SW15, and to a degree even @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 as well. Over the years, after having interacted with a ton of women, I have noticed that you can pin women down into two different cultures and it is tough to really give them a name. However, I will do my best to give them a name so I can best make the point I want to make on this thread.

I can also be completely wrong here because my experience in life is only so limited.

Within these cultures, you will also notice overlap when it comes to her city, ethnic group, ancestry, and all that but it isn't all black and white (pun somewhat intended). For example, a woman can be from X city or X ethnic group and even though most women from her group fall into one bucket, she does not. Here is how I will identify the two cultures:

1. Natural/beautiful (think of them as the "old rich")
2. Artificial/sexy (think of them as the "new rich")

Because I have no other way to really identify them but in each one, I will break it down more.

Natural/beautiful

I describe women from these kinds of cultures are the types you can have a in-depth conversation with. A lot of them tend to have strong opinions on things and are ready to debate with you on those opinions. When it comes to looks, they are not exactly the types to doll themselves up heavily and their beauty tends to be more of a natural beauty. These are the women who have that model build and are naturally attractive so they don't try that hard to look good.

I also notice that these women do not bleach or dye their hair a lot, they keep it natural.

One traits that strictly differentiates these women from plastic women is that they do not seem wowed by sports cars or any of the flashy things in life. It is almost like they see through the facade and if they are going for a guy, they go more for either the genetics or his vibe. I notice that girls who were raised in wealthier old money type of families are in this category to where their parents had so much money that these girls never really cared as much for the finer things in life.

In terms of behavior, these are the kinds of women who might even hear out a guy running game but if it isn't tight, she is going to let him know she is not interested. Their rejections tend to be classy and a more "thank you but I am not interested" sort of a way.

For them, it is more about learning new things, exploring new places, and newer kinds of adventures because they love to explore them. I have known naturally beautiful girls with this kind of a look who usually have private Instagram accounts (or barely have much of one) and almost prefer not to be seen even if they are hot. They tend to be more low-key and might go for a guy who is making a lot of money but is not flashing as much.

Some of these girls are more of the free spirit type that are wandering through life but a lot will go to a good school, have a nice paying job, and can support themselves as well through that.

Artificial/Sexy

Now I think of these as more of your club girls and dolled up type of girls. My southern brother @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 is all too familiar with the type of Southern Belles that predominate in SEC schools and how some of them fit the mold. With these women, it is more of the opposite where plastic surgeries and a host of other things become the norm. Koko Beaute who @SW15 brings up often fits this mold.

You are most likely to find these girls in any of the popular bars and nightclubs in your city. Fake blonde hair, dolled up look, and you name it. However, I want to point out that regardless of how they look naturally, a lot of work is put in by these girls to look good. Sure gym is one thing but they will often get surgeries and alter their look in a major way to scream to men that they want attention. Think of it as a newly rich guy telling you that he owns a Lambo and he wants to flash it aggressively. These girls are the female equivalent of that guy in the game world.

Even though these women can be attractive as well, you will notice that they might not have the model looks as often. Their looks are sexy but they might be short or might have their imperfections they are very insecure about. In many ways, they try to make up for that insecurity. It is not uncommon for these women to have been an ugly duckling that may have even been plain average in high school or during her formative years before growing into her looks. Even if these girls are not genetically gifted enough to be fashion models, they will obsess over that world like Koko Beaute does.

In terms of behavior, these women are colder. They will intentionally act rude and mean towards any guy who is not top tier as way to show to others how harsh she can be. From their actions, they will give harsher rejections at bars and even in public to show that a guy is not worth their time. They want to let others know that they rejected a guy and some even get a kick out of it.

As for what they do, it is all driven by validation and wanting to fit in. What this mean is trying to go to the fanciest spots, having a public Instagram with a ton of followers, and keeping up with the trends. They want to always be seen as popular so they go out of their way to make it happen. It isn't uncommon for these women to try and bartending jobs and you will often find them in the Service Industry as bottle girls and bartenders.

However, you can still find these women in the corporate world as they will try to get the job at the flashiest company because they want to show that off.

The common underlying theme at times is "I didn't have this validation and status growing up, I must make up for it now and show it off to the world". It is a way of overcompensating for something.
Broadly speaking, it's somewhat like "r" versus "K" temperament.
 
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I will challenge you on that because modern day England has made massive strides with racial integration compared to modern day Italy which is practically like Alabama in the 1950s. Just look at how unfairly they treated Mario Balotelli for being black under a decade ago. However, it is normal to think that Anglo-Saxons are the bad guys when you live in the south or have spent most of your life there because you haven't been exposed to how worse other groups are.

Even to this day, the idea of racial integration is very foreign in Italy compared to the rest of Europe. They worship blonde hair and blue eyed people there (despite being mostly swarthy themselves) and treat blacks and foreigners like trash compared to how the Scandinavians, Germans, Brits, and the French treat them.

Sure, some Italian American in the south or out west will be chill with you because they are not connected to their community. However, I promise you, whatever racism you thought you ran into with Southern Whites will seem like a cakewalk when you deal with an Italian American from New York or New Jersey. I promise you that whatever integration you had into American society amongst southern whites will seem like a blessing once you are forced to hang around the guidos in NY and NJ.

The Anglos might have been racist pricks but at least they moved on and tried to right their wrongs. Italian Americans in the northeast think the same way whites in Jim Crow south used to, thankfully they are too incompetent to actually do anything outside of their dumpy boroughs no one wants to live in.
Challenge accepted, I've never been to Italy, but I will make it my next 1-3 upcoming travel destinations. I'm not going to NYC or the Northeast though lol. I have no desire to go to a place that's sending refugees to Nashville lol. If it's that bad that you are willing to pack your bags and move to Tennessee then nahh lol. I can understand California, because the cost of living there is ridiculous, and I think the weather there is kind of overrated.
 
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Challenge accepted, I've never been to Italy, but I will make it my next 1-3 upcoming travel destinations. I'm not going to NYC or the Northeast though lol. I have no desire to go to a place that's sending refugees to Nashville lol. If it's that bad that you are willing to pack your bags and move to Tennessee then nahh lol. I can understand California, because the cost of living there is ridiculous, and I think the weather there is kind of overrated.
Hey man, I just wanted to warn you, that is all. I know a black dude who also looked up to Italian culture and respected it, considering it different from other kinds of Europeans. However, he went to Italy and got red pilled real quick on how bad racism gets in Europe once you go below France. When you get to the northeast, you also realize how much more racist Italian Americans are compared to the Irish, Jews, and WASPs. There is a reason Long Island, Staten Island, and suburban New Jersey have the bad reputation that they do.

As for NYC, it depends on where you are in life. If you want to settle down and start a family, avoid NYC and the entire tri-state area (northeast in general) like the plague. A lot of people come down south because they realize how bad state income taxes are and how much it sucks to raise a family in the northeast. You start to realize that once you take away the partying, dating options, and fast paced life which appeals to a single guy, the northeast freaking sucks. The people also start to suck once you get outside of Manhattan and Hipster Brooklyn.
 
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Hey man, I just wanted to warn you, that is all. I know a black dude who also looked up to Italian culture and respected it, considering it different from other kinds of Europeans. However, he went to Italy and got red pilled real quick on how bad racism gets in Europe once you go below France. When you get to the northeast, you also realize how much more racist Italian Americans are compared to the Irish, Jews, and WASPs. There is a reason Long Island, Staten Island, and suburban New Jersey have the bad reputation that they do.
lol half of what I said was trolling you :rofl: I do like their food and roman history though haha. I'm still pretty skeptical now because I've been from the bowels of Russia (Kazan) to the bowels of Spain (Zaragoza, Mallorca, Salamanca), to former Prussia (Northern Germany and Poland), to the villages of Japan, and I never had any issues compared to the Southern USA lol. The south isn't that bad, there are some really good cities, but Tennessee except for Eastern TN is pretty bad lol. I'm aware of racism in NYC so that doesn't shock me. I was only there for a week, but I never felt uncomfortable or anything. I do remember this dank @$$ Italian place that was open on midnight near Hells Kitchen. The kitchen had a single stove with some mexican dude just cooking in it haha. Best Spaghetti and Meatballs I have ever had in my life.
 
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lol half of what I said was trolling you :rofl: I do like their food and roman history though haha. I'm still pretty skeptical now because I've been from the bowels of Russia (Kazan) to the bowels of Spain (Zaragoza, Mallorca, Salamanca), to former Prussia (Northern Germany and Poland), to the villages of Japan, and I never had any issues compared to the Southern USA lol. The south isn't that bad, there are some really good cities, but Tennessee except for Eastern TN is pretty bad lol. I'm aware of racism in NYC so that doesn't shock me. I was only there for a week, but I never felt uncomfortable or anything. I do remember this dank @$$ Italian place that was open on midnight near Hells Kitchen. The kitchen had a single stove with some mexican dude just cooking in it haha. Best Spaghetti and Meatballs I have ever had in my life.
Brother, you have not had a proper modern day NYC meal until you have had one of those Halal cart foods lol. I am telling you man, if you are single and looking to take it to the next level, go to NYC, you will KILL it there.

During the times of the Romans, it was a different country. The reason that I say modern day Italy is really bad is because the economy, outside of tourism, sucks. People are often not that educated and have to bounce to other countries for work and education. What really sets them over the edge though is the fact that their whiteness is occasionally questioned and they feel like they need to compensate for their lack of whiteness by being even more racist. In the southern US, it is more of a thing of ignorance and pride. In the Mediterranean, especially Italy, it is an inferiority complex.

I have noticed though that the racism from them gets more and more severe the more ethnic they look. The Italians that look unmistakably white are usually chill and okay with minorities. However, the ones who can pass for Latin or ethnic are often the most racist ones because of that chip on their shoulder.
 

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Brother, you have not had a proper modern day NYC meal until you have had one of those Halal cart foods lol. I am telling you man, if you are single and looking to take it to the next level, go to NYC, you will KILL it there.

During the times of the Romans, it was a different country. The reason that I say modern day Italy is really bad is because the economy, outside of tourism, sucks. People are often not that educated and have to bounce to other countries for work and education. What really sets them over the edge though is the fact that their whiteness is occasionally questioned and they feel like they need to compensate for their lack of whiteness by being even more racist. In the southern US, it is more of a thing of ignorance and pride. In the Mediterranean, especially Italy, it is an inferiority complex.

I have noticed though that the racism from them gets more and more severe the more ethnic they look. The Italians that look unmistakably white are usually chill and okay with minorities. However, the ones who can pass for Latin or ethnic are often the most racist ones because of that chip on their shoulder.
There's a really good book from the 30's called Ask The Dust that explores this exact dynamic. It's written by John Fante, about himself as a young Italian-American writer falling in love with a Mexican waitress. (For some background, Fante was the primary influence on Charles Bukowski, who in turned inspired the Hank Moody character from Californication.)

 
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Brother, you have not had a proper modern day NYC meal until you have had one of those Halal cart foods lol. I am telling you man, if you are single and looking to take it to the next level, go to NYC, you will KILL it there.

During the times of the Romans, it was a different country. The reason that I say modern day Italy is really bad is because the economy, outside of tourism, sucks. People are often not that educated and have to bounce to other countries for work and education. What really sets them over the edge though is the fact that their whiteness is occasionally questioned and they feel like they need to compensate for their lack of whiteness by being even more racist. In the southern US, it is more of a thing of ignorance and pride. In the Mediterranean, especially Italy, it is an inferiority complex.

I have noticed though that the racism from them gets more and more severe the more ethnic they look. The Italians that look unmistakably white are usually chill and okay with minorities. However, the ones who can pass for Latin or ethnic are often the most racist ones because of that chip on their shoulder.
I know a guy of Sicilian descent that is as dark as me and he compensated so baddddd to fit in with the white people in Atlanta. He is one of the most insecure people I know…he’s a 40 year old that acts like a 23 year old recent college grad.

Lol I had the halal cart before a knicks Game and it made me bloated af
 

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There's a really good book from the 30's called Ask The Dust that explores this exact dynamic. It's written by John Fante, about himself as a young Italian-American writer falling in love with a Mexican waitress. (For some background, Fante was the primary influence on Charles Bukowski, who in turned inspired the Hank Moody character from Californication.)

I cannot think of any other group, perhaps maybe Arab and Middle Eastern guys, that thirsts and chases after women of other groups but became sour and mate guards when men chase after women of their background than Italian American guys. To specify, as I have been on this whole thread, namely the ones in NY and NJ. The dynamic works in an interesting way because if whites who are considered whiter than them go for their sisters, there is very little they can do (the Irish cuck them hard in the northeast).

However, not even southern rednecks get as sour and angry when their women mix with minorities as your typical Guido does. Maybe @In2theGame can speak more to this as he is a Middle Eastern guy who has smashed a lot of Italian women but man, ole Tony does not like it when Claudia mixes with the darker races.

It must suck for him though because I have found that Italian American women just love getting busy with minorities when no one is looking. All of it depends on status though and they do value that and perception more than women of other races. Same chick whose dad is a hardcore Trumper will mix it up with the black dude on the college basketball team.
 

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I know a guy of Sicilian descent that is as dark as me and he compensated so baddddd to fit in with the white people in Atlanta. He is one of the most insecure people I know…he’s a 40 year old that acts like a 23 year old recent college grad.

Lol I had the halal cart before a knicks Game and it made me bloated af
I am telling you man, your fascination will fade once you live in the northeast lol.

As for the carts, maybe you had the wrong one. Some can be heavy and it depends on what you get. I never get anything with too much hot sauce. Those dudes overdo it with the sauce and your mouth will be burning like crazy if you let them have their way with it. Middle Eastern food is really underrated though, fell in love with it when I moved to NYC. They had this amazing falafel place where I lived and it was way better and healthier drunk food than a pizza slice.
 

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Maybe @In2theGame can speak more to this as he is a Middle Eastern guy who has smashed a lot of Italian women but man, ole Tony does not like it when Claudia mixes with the darker races.
I never experienced problems hooking up with Caucasian Women. The majority of the Women I've been with were white girls.

All of my Ex-girlfriends were white as well. In fact, as I have mentioned in the past here on SS, my very first serious GF was from the south (Louisiana) and when I went down there, I did get stares lol but not in a negative way I guess. Her mother straight up, boldly, said "Oh he isn't that dark colored, it's fine" ... I was thinking "WTF, lol this is wild". The fact that she said it out openly was pretty crazy but being from NYC all my life, I wasn't that shocked.

Second serious GF was from NYC and she was pale white with dark features and a phat ass.

The blonde haired, blue eyed Women (FWB) I've been with were all cool with me as well. I've hooked up with Blondes/Caucasian Women from London, Sweden, Germany, etc...

It never made a big difference when it came to success regardless of my ethnicity or skin color.
 

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I never experienced problems hooking up with Caucasian Women. The majority of the Women I've been with were white girls.

All of my Ex-girlfriends were white as well. In fact, as I have mentioned in the past here on SS, my very first serious GF was from the south (Louisiana) and when I went down there, I did get stares lol but not in a negative way I guess. Her mother straight up, boldly, said "Oh he isn't that dark colored, it's fine" ... I was thinking "WTF, lol this is wild". The fact that she said it out openly was pretty crazy but being from NYC all my life, I wasn't that shocked.

Second serious GF was from NYC and she was pale white with dark features and a phat ass.

The blonde haired, blue eyed Women (FWB) I've been with were all cool with me as well. I've hooked up with Blondes/Caucasian Women from London, Sweden, Germany, etc...

It never made a big difference when it came to success regardless of my ethnicity or skin color.
Well I specified women of Italian descent and not exactly your normal white girls. The dynamic is a bit different given that Italians, especially if they look ethnic, have that added insecurity around their own whiteness and the women want to be accepted as properly "white" like the typical blonde haired Nordic girl.

Even with Middle Eastern guys, I notice they commonly get with the blonde white girls and really pale white girls, nothing taboo about that at all, been happening for ages. However, with a Mediterranean white girl it is much more rare given the group's own insecurity about not being seen as white added in with the extreme contempt they hold for minorities.

So I found a bit odd that a Middle Eastern descent guy like you would get with the swarthy Monica Bellucci lookalike.
 

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Well I specified women of Italian descent and not exactly your normal white girls. The dynamic is a bit different given that Italians, especially if they look ethnic, have that added insecurity around their own whiteness and the women want to be accepted as properly "white" like the typical blonde haired Nordic girl.

Even with Middle Eastern guys, I notice they commonly get with the blonde white girls and really pale white girls, nothing taboo about that at all, been happening for ages. However, with a Mediterranean white girl it is much more rare given the group's own insecurity about not being seen as white added in with the extreme contempt they hold for minorities.

So I found a bit odd that a Middle Eastern descent guy like you would get with the swarthy Monica Bellucci lookalike.
Get back to work.
 

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Same chick whose dad is a hardcore Trumper will mix it up with the black dude on the college basketball team.
A good example of this is Sarah Palin before she became a mayor and a governor. In 1987, as a recent college graduate, she had sex with Glen Rice, who was then a University of Michigan basketball player. Rice then went on the play in the NBA for 15 years.



I cannot think of any other group, perhaps maybe Arab and Middle Eastern guys, that thirsts and chases after women of other groups but became sour and mate guards when men chase after women of their background than Italian American guys. To specify, as I have been on this whole thread, namely the ones in NY and NJ. The dynamic works in an interesting way because if whites who are considered whiter than them go for their sisters, there is very little they can do (the Irish cuck them hard in the northeast).

However, not even southern rednecks get as sour and angry when their women mix with minorities as your typical Guido does. Maybe @In2theGame can speak more to this as he is a Middle Eastern guy who has smashed a lot of Italian women but man, ole Tony does not like it when Claudia mixes with the darker races.

It must suck for him though because I have found that Italian American women just love getting busy with minorities when no one is looking.
This totally happens in the Northeast in Italian-American communities. Italian-Americans in other areas of the USA don't tend to act this way. Italian-Americans are most commonly found in the Northeast and Chicago. Outside of those areas, Italian-Americans are far less common. In the areas of the USA where Italian-Americans are less common, they blend in more with other White people.
 

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”old money” = secure, not superficial, confident, real beauty, low body count, self respect
“new money” = insecure, superficial, validation seeking, entitled, beauty wipes off, high body count, lacks self respect

Old money is rare to find these days and most desirable in my opinion.
 

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A good example of this is Sarah Palin before she became a mayor and a governor. In 1987, as a recent college graduate, she had sex with Glen Rice, who was then a University of Michigan basketball player. Rice then went on the play in the NBA for 15 years.

I could have always guessed Palin to have a thing for black dudes. I am not sure what it is but Conservative white women will talk openly about being nationalistic and may come off as xenophobic but will screw a minority. Maybe @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 can speak more to this as he is a black dude that grew up in the south. I have noticed that Conservative White girls will sound more racist at first but then surprise you by sleeping with a black dude or minority. Heck, even Ann Coulter dated some super dorky right wing Indian dude named Dinesh Souzha and then got with a black dude as well.

Meanwhile, Liberal white women will talk all about equality, justice, and put up progressive Facebook quotes but go for the whitest looking dude possible. The most prejudiced white women I have met in my life were from places like California or New York. They talked all about equality and progressive stuff but when time came for it, they stuck exclusively with people just like them.

However, minorities are easily brainwashed into thinking that Conservatives are the enemy and shoot themselves in the foot. Only exception here are black guys as a number of liberal white girls will suck a black dude off so they can say "look I am not racist!". However, most other minority groups are cucks in the US and a good example of this are Asian guys. A lot of them vote Democrat at the rate that blacks do while getting cucked by a dorky white dude who steals their women. Yet, they are too spineless to consider going Republican because their culture forces them to fit in at all costs.

If minorities only knew how much the Democrat party has them on a leash but it amazes me as to how they don't really break ranks like that. Latinos have started to slowly diverge but Asians have not, hence demonstrating their poor dating performance.

This totally happens in the Northeast in Italian-American communities. Italian-Americans in other areas of the USA don't tend to act this way. Italian-Americans are most commonly found in the Northeast and Chicago. Outside of those areas, Italian-Americans are far less common. In the areas of the USA where Italian-Americans are less common, they blend in more with other White people.
Literally everything bad I say about Italian Americans is intended exclusively towards those from New York and New Jersey. In my experience, there are 3 kinds of Italian Americans

1. Regular Americans. Like that is it. You would not be able to tell these folks apart from the Irish or Germans or Scandinavians at all outside of last name. Have fully assimilated into American society and get thrown in the bucket of whatever people think of when they say American. Most commonly found outside of the northeast and Chicago. Most tend to look visibly white as well and are indistinguishable from any other kind of whites. A good example of this is Ron DeSantis and obviously you ;)

2. American but still in touch with their heritage and the crap their grandparents had to go through. They know from just a couple of generations ago how bad prejudice used to be and in some ways can relate with newer immigrant groups. Probably the coolest Italian Americans of them all but unfortunately, quite rare. A good example of this is Martin Scorsese.

3. Overcompensating guidos who are often racist and trashy. A generation or two removed from where Italians were not considered white, let their new found status get to their heads, and are often toxic and miserable people. Quite racist, prejudiced, hateful, quarrelsome, and downright classless. Desperately overcompensate for their Italian heritage by trying to go over the top with their patriotism. The tend to adhere to the Jersey Shore stereotype, start a fight for no reason, and harass women. Contain the most trashy and ratchet women in the US, yes, even worse than a hood black chick. This describes about 80% of Italian Americans from the New York and New Jersey area.

A lot of them also tend to look "ethnic" and would lose their heads if a Middle Eastern/Arab dude like @In2theGame screwed their sisters, hence my surprise when I read a while ago that he gets with a lot of Italian descent women in NY and NJ.
 

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I could have always guessed Palin to have a thing for black dudes.
Sarah Palin (then Sarah Heath) had sex with Glen Rice in Nov-Dec 1987 and married Todd Palin in August 1988. I think Sarah had sex with Glen Rice while in a relationship with Todd Palin. Todd Palin is a cuck then. There was also reporting that Sarah had sex with Todd's business partner too. He may have also had affairs too. There's a reason they got divorced in 2019.

Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene had multiple affairs prior to her 2022 divorce. Her ex-husband was a cuck.

This isn't a partisan political issue at all. Former Democratic Party Rep. Katie Hill had extramarital sex and her husband was a cuck too. That marriage ended in divorce.

Ann Coulter dated some super dorky right wing Indian dude named Dinesh Souzha and then got with a black dude as well.
Ann Coulter has been a bit of an odd woman too. Ann Coulter is 61 and never had children. For a Boomer born in 1961, that's weird. For the Millennials who are late 30s/early 40s today, it's not at all odd to be childless.

everything bad I say about Italian Americans is intended exclusively towards those from New York and New Jersey. In my experience, there are 3 kinds of Italian Americans
The absolute worst Italian-Americans are from NY-NJ-CT. Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago Italian-Americans are a little bit better. Outside of metros New York, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia, Italian-Americans blend well and are mostly in your Category 1 of Italian-Americans (Regular Americans).
 
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