Tryna rizz exchange students

[Clockwerk50]

@AntoniousIV

Let's have a look at this..



Now, as you can see, this guy is being sarcastic here.

He is making a mockery of my direct method.

But, let's use some simple logic and reasoning.

Question..

This woman, would you take her out on a date (paying for her dinner/drinks), if you knew she had no sexual interests in you?

No, correct?

So, why not see if she has sexual interests in you, beforeeee you take her out on a date?

Ahhh, makes sense, doesn't it?

Think, think.

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Now, the only way you're going to know if she has sexual interests in you, is if you bring up the subject of sex to her.

I'll just let that sink in before I go further, if I proceed at all.

I can already tell you are being influenced more by these indirect puppies, so I'll just let you rock out with them.

There's a huge difference between romantic directness like "Let me get your number" or "I'd love to take you out and play footsies" after playful back-and-forth, while gauging the woman's interest level, or even something like "Come to my house, there's no one home" when you've already built a certain rapport, versus "Let's have sex and be intimate next week" out of nowhere to someone you've barely spoken to. OP came here asking for advice on how not to come across as a creep, but you're essentially teaching him how to be one..

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Holy hell...I stopped reading his suggestions and never saw that. @AntoniousIV whatever you do, Jesus Christ do NOT even think about sending something that stupid.

Yeah, just continue paying for dates and getting flaked on...just to come crying on the forum and asking for advice from guys who couldn't pull a date off the calendar.

Just a bunch of weak minded men, from the seekers, to the advisors.

I think part of the reason I do so well is because guys like him are my competition, so they disqualify themselves by saying weird sh** like that.

You are no competition to me, buddy.

If you got to pay for a woman's time and companionship in order to get laid, you can never be in the same stratosphere as me.

The reason why I do so well is, I learned that I can get the puzzy without spending a dime on a woman..while guys like you spend money on women, and STILL don't get the puzzy.

Tsk tsk.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Maybe if you would tell me what I could do in real life I might not be so lazy.

I'll check out the vid though.

Work out, get a fresh haircut, and wear clean, well-fitted clothes. Make friends and go out to clubs, bars, or house parties.Don't stay at home all the time. Find a hobby and get good at it, and make sure your Instagram is on point. Try to go out as often as possible. Stay in school and focus on getting good grades.

When talking to women, follow the 70/30 rule. Speak less and listen more - this gives you more control over the conversation and reduces the chances of saying the wrong thing.

Quit porn. It doesn't actually fulfill you; it makes you feel lazy and distorts your perception of women. You'll struggle to create a meaningful connection in real-life intimacy. Plus, your body needs to be ready whenever the opportunity arises.

When you are alone with the woman isolate and escalate like you did today. Bear in mind you have to be good at reading signals, but that comes with practice.

 

[New_Journey]

You are no competition to me, buddy.

Men with lots of puzzies don't spend mental energy trying to convince others how good he is, he just doesn't care.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

There's a huge difference between romantic directness like "Let me get your number"

or "I'd love to take you out and play footsies" after playful back-and-forth, while gauging the woman's interest level, or even something like "Come to my house, there's no one home" when you've already built a certain rapport, versus "Let's have sex and be intimate next week" out of nowhere to someone you've barely spoken to.

Bruh, first of all, with all due respect...my method is tested and proven...so for you to try to coach me on some shiit that has already been proven to work for me, is wild.

I don't need advice, nor am I offering theories about what I think.

You are telling me what you think about some shiit you've never done, while I'm telling you what I know based on the shiit that I've done, and do.

Big difference.

Second, as I said before...when I send either mild or soft explicit messages to women during my first initial communications with them, this is a test.

Think of it as a screening test...and that's how I weed out the ones that aren't right for me.

So while this may all seem crazy to you, for me, it is a quick, easy, systematic method and has paid dividends as navigate through the pile to find out which ones are rocking with me or not.

OP came here asking for advice on how not to come across as a creep, but you're essentially teaching him how to be one..

As of now, I can care less about OP's situation.

He has been receptive towards the bullshiit BPH is kicking, so I'll let those two do what they do.

As of now, I am speaking in general.

As for being looked at as a creep...that's bullshiit.

Just like guys on here that have negative shiit to say about cold approach, they think that women look at men as creeps just because the men approached them.

Only guys that never cold approach will think that.

Men that are out there in the field knows, that ain't how it goes.

You guys are speaking from ignorance, which is fallacious.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Men with lots of puzzies don't spend mental energy trying to convince others how good he is, he just doesn't care.

I feel you.

 

[BPH]

"I'm not looking for anything serious at the moment, but I'd like to share your sexual (and/or) intimate companionship next weekend" (or whenever).

This is the kind of text message that girls read to me during pillow talk when they're complaining about how weird other guys are.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This is the kind of text message that girls read to me during pillow talk when they're complaining about how weird other guys are.

Yeah, and how many dates did you have to take the chick on, to get to your pillow talk stage?

Even if the answer is one, that's one too many.

Me? None.

We ain't the same.

 

[New_Journey]

The reason why I do so well is, I learned that I can get the puzzy without spending a dime on a woman..while guys like you spend money on women, and STILL don't get the puzzy.

I know because after your divorce you're most likely broke and can't afford a proper date with a high quality woman. Men with money don't care spending money on women, because what is abundant for them is scarce for you. They don't make their necessity their virtue, that's what losers like you do.

It seems that your confusion appears to be every guy who spends money on women is a simp with no game and who no woman wants. Its okay buddy, times will be better financially for you one day, keep working hard.

We ain't the same.

You're damn right we ain't.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I know because after your divorce

I'm still married, junior.

you're most likely broke and can't afford a proper date with a high quality woman.

"High quality" is subjective.

Men with money don't care spending money on women, because what is abundant for them is scarce for you.

Your using the abundance/scarcity thing, to justify spending money on women.

Spending money on women ain't the issue.

The issue is; you spend on a woman, when she's yet to earn it.

You spend money on dates, with the hopes of getting puzzy..which is gamble prostitution.

Which is something I'll never do again.

It seems that your confusion appears to be every guy who spends money on women is a simp with no game and who no woman wants.

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying there is a more efficient way of doing things.

You're damn right we ain't.

And why is that?

Because, I don't spend money on women with the hopes of getting laid.

You do.

It's what separates the men from the boys.

 

[AntoniousIV]

Work out, get a fresh haircut, and wear clean, well-fitted clothes. Make friends and go out to clubs, bars, or house parties.Don't stay at home all the time. Find a hobby and get good at it, and make sure your Instagram is on point. Try to go out as often as possible. Stay in school and focus on getting good grades.

When talking to women, follow the 70/30 rule. Speak less and listen more - this gives you more control over the conversation and reduces the chances of saying the wrong thing.

Quit porn. It doesn't actually fulfill you; it makes you feel lazy and distorts your perception of women. You'll struggle to create a meaningful connection in real-life intimacy. Plus, your body needs to be ready whenever the opportunity arises.

When you are alone with the woman isolate and escalate like you did today. Bear in mind you have to be good at reading signals, but that comes with practice.

Bookmarked.

My ig is pretty sh$t, cus im skinny fat. My plan is to get jacked for summer (june) so I'm cutting and working out.

Regarding porn, it's a lot easier when you have prospects. I didnt even think lf watching while I was actively going out with this girl. I've been free for 3 weeks, and I'll continue until I die.
I also escaped my video game addiction 5 days ago which was a big problem for me.Aspecially league of legends. I've been playing so for most of my life, but I've found it easy to esacape now. And that was a big problem to me, I would rather play than go out with girls.

I'll start clubbing more once I get lean. That should be in about 3months.

 

[New_Journey]

I'm still married, junior.

Why, you can't leave? Pathetic

money

money

money

Like I said, things will be better money wise, stay focus

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Why, you can't leave? Pathetic

I will leave, when you reach levels whereas you can get puzzy without taking a woman on a date.

How about that?

 

[BPH]

I'm still married, junior.

If you're married, why do you think you have a single clue about what works in modern dating?

 

[SW15]

If you're married, why do you think you have a single clue about what works in modern dating?

This isn't specific to me but I think it does bring up a good point that likely warrants its own thread.

When a person gets into a relationship for a while, at what point does their dating knowledge become dated?

I think it's about 5-7 years of a monogamous relationship that causes it, even if the monogamous relationship of that duration is childless.

I think about the people I know who have been the same relationship 10-15 years and I can't imagine most of them doing well re-entering dating in 2025.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

If you're married, why do you think you have a single clue about what works in modern dating?

I'm spiritually, mentally, and emotionally divorced, and not giving a damn about what a piece of paper says.

In other words, I'm single and have been living a singles life.

Second, my method is just simply more efficient, and this efficiency is based on logic and reason alone, whether married or not.

Third, as I stated before, my method has garnished recent/current results...so if it's currently working for me, then it obviously applies to modern dating.

 

[New_Journey]

I will leave, when you reach levels whereas you can get puzzy without taking a woman on a date.

Boohoooo I can't leave my marriage because I wanna get puzzy without taking them on dates boohooo, you seem like a toddler complaining to mommy. I hope you don't have children because you're not fit to give a good example of a father. Nice way of placing puzzy on a pedestal.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This isn't specific to me but I think it does bring up a good point that likely warrants its own thread.

When a person gets into a relationship for a while, at what point does their dating knowledge become dated?

I think it's about 5-7 years of a monogamous relationship that causes it, even if the monogamous relationship of that duration is childless.

I think about the people I know who have been the same relationship 10-15 years and I can't imagine most of them doing well re-entering dating in 2025.

Direct verbal game, (Mode One), which is what I endorse...the method itself goes all the way back to the mid-late 80's when Alan Roger Currie first began trying out his method in college...and, he found out that it works.

He's been teaching, writing, and selling books on the subject going all the way back to 1999...which is what he continued to do all the way up until his sudden death in 2022.

I said all that to say, the method is almost 40 years old and books are still being sold.

So, no. The method is not dated and is still going strong.

 

[SW15]

Direct verbal game, (Mode One), which is what I endorse...the method itself goes all the way back to the mid-late 80's when Alan Roger Currie first began trying out his method in college...and, he found out that it works.

He's been teaching, writing, and selling books on the subject going all the way back to 1999...which is what he continued to do all the way up until his sudden death in 2022.

I said all that to say, the method is almost 40 years old and books are still being sold.

So, no. The method is not dated and is still going strong.

The typical guy getting out of a relationship that is 7-15 years long (even one where there wasn't children resulting from it) isn't a guy who has heard of Alan Roger Currie or Mode One.

A lot of those guys are going to be lost when trying to seduce new women (foreign exchange students or any type of new woman).

I have promoted Mode One before and cited you as the Mode One specialist on this forum.

A guy who started a relationship in 2013 and ended one in 2024-2025, putting him on the market today is likely to need an adjustment to the current times. Tinder existed in 2013 so it's not like that guy is completely lost on new dating technologies.

Guys who were completely reliant on approaching in real life in the 2000s/early 2010s and plan to approach in real life in the 2020s would be better off than guys who were website/app daters during that era and then got into some sort of long relationship.

By the late 2000s/early 2010s, it was common for mid-tier looks males (often blue pill ideology beta males) to be using dating websites or dating apps.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

The typical guy getting out of a relationship that is 7-15 years long (even one where there wasn't children resulting from it) isn't a guy who has heard of Alan Roger Currie or Mode One.

A lot of those guys are going to be lost when trying to seduce new women (foreign exchange students or any type of new woman).

More than likely true, however, I'm just stating that the method itself isn't dated...as that was the question, right?

I know your question was in a general sense..but since dude insinuated that my style may be out of touch and you asked the general, broader question about individuals that may be behind the times, I felt compelled to say no, my style ain't outdated.

I have promoted Mode One before and cited you as the Mode One specialist on this forum.

No lies told.

A guy who started a relationship in 2013 and ended one in 2024-2025, putting him on the market today is likely to need an adjustment to the current times. Tinder existed in 2013 so it's not like that guy is completely lost on new dating technologies.

Guys who were completely reliant on approaching in real life in the 2000s/early 2010s and plan to approach in real life in the 2020s would be better off than guys who were website/app daters during that era and then got into some sort of long relationship.

By the late 2000s/early 2010s, it was common for mid-tier looks males (often blue pill ideology beta males) to be using dating websites or dating apps.

Are we talking about the methodology (Approach + interaction to lay) used...or are we talking the vessel used (dating apps, nightclub, social event, etc)...that is dated?

Either way, it should be like riding bicycle.

You may not have rode one in 20 years, but all it requires is for you to get out there and start pedaling, and it'll come back to you.