Truth is, most people want you to fail.

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Most does not mean all, it just means more than half.

What I have learned after reading over 100s of posts on forums across the web relating to PUA, dating advice, and improving your dating life is that most people are not very encouraging. At first, people will question why you even want to go after what you want. Why you want to live the lifestyle which involves sleeping with lots of attractive women.

Then people will talk you out of it by telling you that the lifestyle is morally wrong and you don't have what it takes. People will push limiting beliefs on to you and try to discourage you.

After that doesn't work, people will try to actively sabotage you. They will try to dig up your old posts, make you seem like some sort of a bad person for wanting to have a better life, and most of all they will attack you every chance they get because you are trying to better yourself.

If I was to tell this to guys on most forums, they wouldn't believe me. They would say I am making this up and that it doesn't really happen. Something else you wouldn't believe is the amount of hate these guys sometimes get from sexually frustrated men who see these two foreigners hooking up with women they fantasize about.

Why do people do this?

Success takes hard work, no way around it. Even though luck helps, there is no substitute for hard work. If you do not work hard, you won't succeed in anything.

Getting good at attracting women takes hard work, a lot of hard work. It takes bettering your appearance, becoming more confident, becoming comfortable talking with women, dealing with lots of rejections, and then finally getting good at closing.

Most people don't want to go through all that. Most guys out there want to sit at home, watch porn, eat junk food, and have a beautiful woman fall right into their lap. A lot of guys aren't willing to better themselves or make themselves more attractive because they are lazy. Most would rather complain about how bad feminism is and how all women have high standards rather than hit the gym and buy nice clothes.

Now they see this one guy who is trying to better himself, live a good lifestyle, and they can't believe it. Why isn't this guy whining like the rest of us? Why isn't he being lazy and unproductive like us? He should be sitting back home complaining rather than making some of his life? Remember that misery loves company.

So now since this guy has made an effort to better himself, the other guys who are happy being miserable want to see how they can stop him. Seeing someone succeed while you hardly have anything going for yourself causes jealousy. Some people will use this as a motivation to better themselves but most will just become jealous on the inside.

The main reason is that most people aren't successful. Most guys won't sleep with over 10 women in their lives, they will be lucky to have 5. Most men won't get to be with a model looking girl. A lot of people will end up living an average boring existence.

When you become successful, it gets even worse.

I know two guys, we call them "Harold and Kumar" because one is Indian while the other is Korean. Both born in their home countries but raised in California. These guys consistently date good looking women from all races.

Harold (the korean) is in a relationship with this 8/10 brunette, he gets a lot of hate for it at times. For some reason it isn't really from white guys, it is from other minorities who keep on questioning his girlfriend's option to date an Asian dude.

These guys get so much hate because they are good with women and they manage to get the girls other guys want. I have seen them getting called racial slurs all the time out at bars but they still do their thing. Somehow they fought through all that negativity to get to where they are and both of them are in PA school too.
 

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repped...good post
 

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A lot of guys here are not taking actions that's why they are not successfull.

Ask yourself this for a guy who supposedly is getting laid or has a girlfriend why are there so many bitter guys here?

After I get laid I'm relaxed, happy and smiling.

I digress

But guys are miserable cause they have wack jobs, married to a wife who got fat, paying child support, or not having sex with their girlfriends etc

This is the reality for most men, and on sosuave they can pretend to be whoever they wanna be

I'm only on this site because it motivates me to step my game up. Not with the women but in the aesthetics depeartment

It's hard work but that's the only way I can get back to being a top tier gamer
 

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Word... learned that the hard way. That's why I fly solo and don't tell people ****. Nobody is interested in your success. Those who fail will try to bring you down to their level; talk ****, hate, compete, sabotage, belittle, dissuade, minimize, disbelief, etc. Those who succeed don't really care, but might point out your positive attributes. You're definitely on your own out there.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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Try and see the good in people. Assume that everybody wants you to succeed. Who cares if they don't-assume that they do. Then you will have a clear mind.

When you judge others and condemn them for being judgmental towards you...well you can see where I'm going with this. Don't be a hypocrite. Be someone who only looks for good motives in people.

That attitude will never lead you astray.
 

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You know, friends, sisters, most of the women or married men I know strongly disapprove of me dating mult women.
My dad, married 43 years, poor health, never heard of pua or self improvement...told me since my divorce he's proud of how I've acted with women.
All the endorsement I need.
 

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floydb25 said:
Word... learned that the hard way. That's why I fly solo and don't tell people ****. Nobody is interested in your success. Those who fail will try to bring you down to their level; talk ****, hate, compete, sabotage, belittle, dissuade, minimize, disbelief, etc. Those who succeed don't really care, but might point out your positive attributes. You're definitely on your own out there.
This is true. The few guys who post field reports and share imagery of their dating life get ragged on by anonymous haters on this forum. I guess real life isnt much different. You always see people trying to tear down successful people in some way.
 

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floydb25 said:
Word... learned that the hard way. That's why I fly solo and don't tell people ****. Nobody is interested in your success. Those who fail will try to bring you down to their level; talk ****, hate, compete, sabotage, belittle, dissuade, minimize, disbelief, etc. Those who succeed don't really care, but might point out your positive attributes. You're definitely on your own out there.
Wow, somebody ****ing got it. I would love to post pics of some of the girls I have been with and me with them but the issue is they might found out from this forum through some detective.

When I first came here I wanted to share the success story of my Asian friend because I saw so many posts by insecure Asians and I wanted to make a difference. Mods said no and I am okay with that. Reason is, most people do not want to hear success stories of any kind whatsoever.

It is always people who have nothing going for them that will spend their last bit of energy trying to bring a successful guy down.
 

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This brings to mind something Joe Rogan said.

"I like a success story, but even more than that I like a success story of a dude who fuks his life up and gets things back together again story...those are my favourite stories."

Other's successes become a mirror of self comparison, and if through this glimpse we do not notice ourselves we tend to turn it down, as to relieve the pain of disappointment, etc.
 
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Everyone is Hoping You Fail

http://www.rooshv.com/everyone-is-ho...hat-youll-fail

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195918

Beta males are hoping. White knights are hoping. Feminists are hoping. Believe it or not, some of your friends and family members are hoping. They want you to fail because your success is their failure. It reminds them of their laziness, their poor work ethic. I’m sorry to tell you that they all want you to fail. Their subtle jabs and withholding of encouragement are aimed to keep you in an inferior station. No one wants to see someone rise at faster speed than themselves.

There is no point in telling other people your goals. They will talk you out of it or give you bad advice. There is no point trying to convince others of your world view. They will plant seeds of doubts that prevent you from action and seeing the truth. The minute you go just slightly higher than you have been, they will try to sabotage you. They are the worrymongers, fearmongers, scaremongers, shamemongers, guilt-trippers, trolls, and haters. Ignore them. Feeding them brings you down to their level, which is exactly what they want.

You’re completely on your own. You don’t need help from anyone. If you can’t reach your goals without the validation and support of other human beings, the bulk of whom I promise are against you, then you don’t deserve to succeed.
 

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^ Love that quote; have it memorized. A lot of good looking, social / interesting, successful people fly solo - not because they believe to be better than everyone else, but because all of the low-level fags and bishes hate on them to no end; compete with them over everything; sabotage anything good coming their way; and treat them like trash. Leagues and classes definitely exist, for this reason. Nobody wants to be left behind or feel inferior; everyone has an ego and insecurities. Most people also prefer everyone to be on the same wavelength, or beneath them. Friends WILL turn against you, as well. The same ones who will brag and gloat when THEY are more successful than you. Doesn't matter if you are being friendly to them, or helping them achieve success, either. Lotta fake *******s out there.

Too bad nobody cares what those losers want. :cheer:
 

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If you do not work hard, you won't succeed in anything.
So so wrong... that's why you are probably here to ask advice.
It's not about working hard, but "working" smart.

Also, what's your definition of work? and what's your definition of success?

And i agree alot of people want you to fail or try to pull you down or try to pull wool over our eyes... because they themselves don't KNOW the way to "real" success, which is the ending of suffering.
I realize success for most people is just climbing above the pit of poverty... oh what a nobel goal.. ppfff.. :/

To succeed in "life" you have to do "everything" effortlessly, and it's not YOU who does anything... it's natural action and processes where we as illusory individuals have totally no control over..

What an illusion to "believe" You can be in control.. first learn and realize there's no such "thing" as an individual.

;) My 100th post in 10 years! and what a smack to the face for some.. carry on
 

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I tend not to take anything Roosh says seriously. The guy is a troll blogger that goes around making posts just to attract traffic. Someone like Chris from Good Looking Loser is a better source of inspiration but Roosh is just not cutting it. I prefer to read better blogs like Bold and Determined. Last I checked, almost everyone hates Roosh now. I have nothing against him but I just don't take anything he says seriously.
 

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Benjaymin said:
I tend not to take anything Roosh says seriously. The guy is a troll blogger that goes around making posts just to attract traffic. Someone like Chris from Good Looking Loser is a better source of inspiration but Roosh is just not cutting it. I prefer to read better blogs like Bold and Determined. Last I checked, almost everyone hates Roosh now. I have nothing against him but I just don't take anything he says seriously.
Not the biggest fan, either. But that quote is still great, and spot-on. Can't take that away from him. The truth is the truth - no matter who it comes from, or how much you dislike them.
 

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Benjaymin said:
I tend not to take anything Roosh says seriously. The guy is a troll blogger that goes around making posts just to attract traffic. Someone like Chris from Good Looking Loser is a better source of inspiration but Roosh is just not cutting it. I prefer to read better blogs like Bold and Determined. Last I checked, almost everyone hates Roosh now. I have nothing against him but I just don't take anything he says seriously.

No offense, I liked your opening, but the above quote sounds like a chick.

I don't have the time to hate anyone.

I fvck, therefore I am. :up:
 

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Benjaymin said:
I tend not to take anything Roosh says seriously. The guy is a troll blogger that goes around making posts just to attract traffic. Someone like Chris from Good Looking Loser is a better source of inspiration but Roosh is just not cutting it. I prefer to read better blogs like Bold and Determined. Last I checked, almost everyone hates Roosh now. I have nothing against him but I just don't take anything he says seriously.
Aside from you're personal dislike of Roosh, what information in that blog was so grossly inaccurate that it would cause you not to take it seriously?
 

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Great post.

Basically if you come here seeking help, you will be insulted/bullied by people who are incredibly insecure themselves and probably have had horrible luck with women.

As secure person would have no problem listing his faults. For example, I have no online dating game. I just don't have the looks to do it. A fake alpha guy would say stuff like "I've smashed ____ girls off the internet" making it look like they are some kind of cassanova when in fact they have failed with most women.

Don't believe the crap you see on this website. If guys are on this website, it's for a reason, and that reason is that they are not successful with women. I used to work for a very big financial company, with ACTUAL alpha males, and those guys all had stable relationships. They don't even know this website exists cause they don't troll the internet and b*tch about life.
 

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There are several men on this site who were bad with women prior to arriving but who are now successful with them.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Aside from you're personal dislike of Roosh, what information in that blog was so grossly inaccurate that it would cause you not to take it seriously?
blog meaning the entire site or the post alone?

nothing wrong with the post, even the worst posters make great posts and worst bloggers have their gems

His overall blog is loaded with negativity, hatred, racism, and just flat out depressing ****. That alone takes away credibility from him and I value credibility, he is not the guy I would take advice from or have as my wingman.
 
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