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drmeathead
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yeah she texted me out of no where and asked what i was up to. she was at jfkat the time waiting for a plane. now keeping mind this girl flipped out on me for texting at 2 am on a sat night had no problem texting me at midnight during the week. she texted me again while waiting for a plane and wanted to make plans. so i agreed. i never went out with her though. i canceled on her about 10 hours prior to the date. she of course called to check up on me that night. i am supposed to call her. i dont think i should. she seems a little nutty.
thedeparted
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The real problem is this woman doesn't have anything to offer other than her pvzzy. If you liked her company you probably would have taken her out. It's not like a Dr. cannot afford a date.
So you're not interested in the dating side of the equation. meantime, she's trying to use sex to be treated like a lady. And that is like trying to bribe the doorman to get into a high class club. So my guess is this relationship is done.
So you're not interested in the dating side of the equation. meantime, she's trying to use sex to be treated like a lady. And that is like trying to bribe the doorman to get into a high class club. So my guess is this relationship is done.
wow, 3 pages of posts and from a quick scan i dont think any of you have hit the nail on the head.
it is NOT about whether her requests were fair or unfair. depending on how you look at them they could be either.
the things she's asking for aren't unreasonable, its the fact that she's asking for them thats unreasonable.
the MAJOR red flag here is that drmeathead is being totally upfront and honest with this chic, and instead of her saying 'you know, thank you for being honest. we aren't looking for the same things so we might as well go our seperate ways.' she's saying 'well, that won't do. let me tell you what i expect. blah blah blah. oh, and i dont sleep with anyone who doesn't do those things.'
she has every right to set whatever expectations of a man she wants onto a person she is dating. what she does NOT have the right to do is to try and use her p*ssy to impose conditions on the relationship and get him to behave in a way that he has no desire to behave in.
so the problem isn't in her wanting these things, the problem is in her wanting them from drmeathead who has said he has no interest in giving them to her and using her p*ssy power to try and get him to act like a 'decent' guy (decent by her subjective standards that is).
the folks calling drmeat a caveman are off i think. He has been 100% honest and up front with this woman. you literally cannot do anything more than that.
and you know, i wouldn't have an issue with her if she were simply laying out her views 'i like guys who like x,y, and z.' that would be the same as what drmeat did, just being honest up front. but when you throw in 'and i dont sleep with guys who blah blah blah' - whoooo nelly, that is 100% clear p*ssy power manipulation in play.
drmeat was right to cut loose of this woman.
it is NOT about whether her requests were fair or unfair. depending on how you look at them they could be either.
the things she's asking for aren't unreasonable, its the fact that she's asking for them thats unreasonable.
the MAJOR red flag here is that drmeathead is being totally upfront and honest with this chic, and instead of her saying 'you know, thank you for being honest. we aren't looking for the same things so we might as well go our seperate ways.' she's saying 'well, that won't do. let me tell you what i expect. blah blah blah. oh, and i dont sleep with anyone who doesn't do those things.'
she has every right to set whatever expectations of a man she wants onto a person she is dating. what she does NOT have the right to do is to try and use her p*ssy to impose conditions on the relationship and get him to behave in a way that he has no desire to behave in.
so the problem isn't in her wanting these things, the problem is in her wanting them from drmeathead who has said he has no interest in giving them to her and using her p*ssy power to try and get him to act like a 'decent' guy (decent by her subjective standards that is).
the folks calling drmeat a caveman are off i think. He has been 100% honest and up front with this woman. you literally cannot do anything more than that.
and you know, i wouldn't have an issue with her if she were simply laying out her views 'i like guys who like x,y, and z.' that would be the same as what drmeat did, just being honest up front. but when you throw in 'and i dont sleep with guys who blah blah blah' - whoooo nelly, that is 100% clear p*ssy power manipulation in play.
drmeat was right to cut loose of this woman.
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betterthandead
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Wow, sounds like you need to back off this gal. I would pretty much not call/email whatsoever.
drmeathead
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nah i havent talked to her in a week. that checking up on me was just over the line.
jophil28
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OK JoeK, a great point and one of MY personal sticking points .. as Rollo says,the only agency of power that women have is via their pvssy ( to supply or withhold) . Women have been playing this same ole for eons ..But who wants to be with a woman who plays for POWER ?joekerr31 said:
However Dr Meat has been wise and strong enough NOt to play this game which is a power play - pure and simple. Power struggles with women are minefields in which you will always lose something -one testicle or your peace and serenity - or all of the above.
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I agree that she is entitled to set her own standards and expectations of the man in her life and present them to him in an adult and appropriate manner as the situation unfolds ..However this negotiating technique seems to be out of favor with some women who prefer to use pvssy instead to control and manipulate.
Wise men are wiiling to negotiate openly BUT walk away from power plays -
Chumps fall into the pvssy trap.
I think you should just cut her loose--no game-playing.
"You know, I think we're just not into the same things. It's time to end this."
--I think that satisfying her expectation that you act as a 'provider' when she is clearly not over her ex is only setting yourself up to be used.
--I also think that satisfying her expectation that you don't see other people while she can't guarantee likewise (and is clearly still not over her ex) is only setting yourself to be used.
--A quality woman who wants more would at least be GIVING you more before she would EVER lay out expectations that you give her more (and even then she wouldn't lay out her expectations as demands). Trust me on this. For one thing, she wouldn't be thinking about her ex because she is so into you. For another, she'd be sending you nice texts from time to time.
Come to think of it, maybe the above would be a good email or conversation to have with her, if you feel like wising her up.
EDIT: drmeathead, from the way you described the end of your conversation at the top of your thread, I really don't think you laid the law down. I think that you capitulated and only told her what she wanted to hear, and tried to play it off to us that you were being 'sarcastic'.
EDIT II: I don't get why guys today are so passive-aggressive. Specifically, why don't you just cut her loose, directly? It sounds that the way you're doing it--by just avoiding her--that's a woman's way of handling things.
"You know, I think we're just not into the same things. It's time to end this."
--I think that satisfying her expectation that you act as a 'provider' when she is clearly not over her ex is only setting yourself up to be used.
--I also think that satisfying her expectation that you don't see other people while she can't guarantee likewise (and is clearly still not over her ex) is only setting yourself to be used.
--A quality woman who wants more would at least be GIVING you more before she would EVER lay out expectations that you give her more (and even then she wouldn't lay out her expectations as demands). Trust me on this. For one thing, she wouldn't be thinking about her ex because she is so into you. For another, she'd be sending you nice texts from time to time.
Come to think of it, maybe the above would be a good email or conversation to have with her, if you feel like wising her up.
EDIT: drmeathead, from the way you described the end of your conversation at the top of your thread, I really don't think you laid the law down. I think that you capitulated and only told her what she wanted to hear, and tried to play it off to us that you were being 'sarcastic'.
EDIT II: I don't get why guys today are so passive-aggressive. Specifically, why don't you just cut her loose, directly? It sounds that the way you're doing it--by just avoiding her--that's a woman's way of handling things.
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