I wouldn't say that stopping a random girl on the street or in the subway is easy. But talking to girls at a mall, in a department store, on a college campus, etc. Is relatively easy compared to other places. (all game is difficult)
Outdoor game is very difficult now because of earbuds. In my city, very few streets have enough foot traffic where "street game" is possible. There are some city parks and walking paths with sufficient foot traffic for approaching but I wouldn't call that "street game" though it is close.
Roosh called street game the most difficult venue hands down back in 2012.
I have done enough park and walking path approaches but it's very difficult to get anyone's attention when doing those approaches. Some guys can run spam game outdoors. This is what happens when a daygame newbie does uncalibrated spam game. He approaches women wearing earbuds, women playing on their cell phones, etc. He did manage to get a few phone numbers, ones that likely flaked because he did not arrange dates with specific places/times when collecting their numbers.
I think a college campus is easier as a college student as compared to a mall's corridor, inside a store in a mall, or a bookstore.
Over the years, I have found the grocery store easier for approaching than the mall. Others may have had different experiences.
Agree that all game is difficult.
The college environment is probably the best environment a male will experience when it comes to gaming.
There's some merit to the point that college is a good environment for gaming.
Have you read the college sex life thread? That thread illustrates well that college students gaming through traditional college life are not having a great experience.
I thought I'd share this as someone who went to a party school and was in a fraternity there as well. Not wanting to give too much about myself but I went to UGA and graduated a few years ago. While Athens has its hot girls, I do feel like the quality got worse every year due to the admission...
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There are upsides to college game. No one is married yet and it'd be difficult to find single moms on campus. Even though a lot of women aren't married yet, that doesn't mean that most women on campus are open to new penis at any time. Most college women get into relationships and aren't looking for new penis.
Even with the downsides of college game, I'd rather be a college student and game on campus and in extracurricular activities as compared to post-college typical daygame venues of malls and grocery stores.
I find it hard to believe that approaching and stopping a complete stranger in the middle of the day is easier than starting a somewhat mutual conversation with someone you matched with on an app.
The difficult part is actually getting the matches and then getting someone to respond to your opener with the swipe app's in-app messaging.
Stopping a complete stranger during the day while likely sober is difficult. Most men can't do it. Daygame has always been a niche activity, even when men had higher testosterone levels on average in the 1980s/1990s.
it makes zero sense how one could struggle on OLD so badly but somehow be a GOD at cold approaching or something else.
Someone wouldn't be God-level at approaching if they struggle on swipe apps or with DMing on social media.
It's difficult to get matches or get responses from sliding into DMs on Instagram/Twitter. Also, a lot of dates arranged via swipe app fail, as they are typically the "one date, no sex, no second date" variety. There are a lot of reasons for this. I won't cover them all. One reason is that female abundance from apps raises women's expectations, so they expect "all the feelz" right away. There are guys who report that it takes a better first date performance in the 2010s-present to get a 2nd date as compared to the 1990s-2000s. Another reason is that it is really difficult to determine in-person chemistry when arranging dates from tech-based methods. Some daters are now using FaceTime/video chats before first dates to assess chemistry. If I were using swipe apps, I would not be opposed to doing this but it adds in an extra layer of complexity. If I'm swiping, texting, and video chatting prior to a first date, I might as well be talking to people in real life and arranging dates that way.
Some of real life dating comes down to finding good situations randomly. In real life, it's best that the single women you approach aren't using swipe apps themselves. They'll have less abundance and actually take the date more seriously. Many single women you approach in the real world will be swipe app users too. The most common feedback that a cold approacher gets in the real world is complete disinterest. Most conversations don't last longer than 30-60 seconds, which is not long enough to ask someone on a date, let alone evaluate well enough the odds of a first date leading to a second date.
Arranging dates in real life feels better and feels far more natural than arranging dates using a tech-based method.
Down here, unless you find a girl content with an Applebees happy hour date(not a dang chance lol) my dates have been in the downtown yuppie areas with terrible parking. I bet NYC has a gold mine of dating spots.
I can't imagine that childless single women under 40 in my city would find an Applebee's happy hour date to be acceptable first date. These women might exist, I likely haven't met that type in my city.
Most of the good first date bars in my city are bars in areas with challenging parking. I can identify with what you describe.
