too many good-looking tall dudes at clubs

[seasonedplayer]

Dude, it's not your height that's killing you, it's your horrible lack of confidence.

I pulled less tail in college than my 5'4" buddy, and he's not even that great looking. He's just a charmer with the chicks.

You facetiously ask if you should approach chicks "so [you] can get shot down." My answer is YES YOU SHOULD. Every "no" is one step closer to a "yes", and I promise you that if you approach every decent-looking girl at the bar, one of them is going to go home with you. If you stand in the corner all night and mope about the tall guys, you're guaranteed to go home alone.

You are missing the point. Your 5 foot 4 mate can pull chicks HE KNOWS from class and has the opportunity of being charming. Place him in a loud club in front of chicks he is meeting for the first time and I bet he struggles

 

[suavesuave]

u r a P

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

You are missing the point. Your 5 foot 4 mate can pull chicks HE KNOWS from class and has the opportunity of being charming. Place him in a loud club in front of chicks he is meeting for the first time and I bet he struggles

Still a limiting belief.

 

[Solomon]

chea

There will always be someone taller, richer, better physique, better looking, has more game, whatever.

It's just an excuse.

Want to get better with girls? Go to clubs where your competition is tougher.

It will cause you to step up your game.

Or to complain and quit.

I'm 6' 1" and have lost girls to guys that were 5' 8" back in the day, before I had game, and it could still very well happen.

You can't do anything about your height, so quit crying about it and improve on things you can control, your attitude being one of them.

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The club scene is so fvcking shallow it doesn't even seem real...who cares? It's not about the other guys, it's about the girls. All these douches have a look on their faces like they want to start a fight with every guy they see....good thing you're short and off their radar.

Really man, let these insecure douchebags fight every guy they see...but while they're fighting, sweep in and take their women. Make no apologies. You're not there at the club to give a damn about the competition, you're there to find a drunk floozie to fvck 'till dawn.

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FYI: Make sure the "rubber" is on tighhhhhhhhhhhhhht

wow this is the most pathetic sh1t i've ever read in my life. let's quickly review what went down here. you're 5'8 and good looking according to your description. you went to a club with a bunch of tall people. you thought that chicks weren't looking at you. you didn't even talk to any because you're a pvssy. you went home and you cried that they didn't look at you even though you didn't even try to talk to any. and now even though you just went to the club and did jack sh1t you somehow came to the conclusion that wutang is right. without even doing anything. the only thing that caused you to come to this "epiphany" was the fact that there happened to be many tall folk at the club that night and that girls werent eye fvcking you. god you're stupid

OUCH, why so harsh mate?:trouble:

 

[Duffdog]

Hey Snowplow,

Don't let the tall, mean looking guys stop you. I am one of them. I recall a few weeks ago I was talking to this cute dark haired girl and having a good conversation when I was distracted by another chic who wanted to dance. After the distraction, I turned back around to the first girl and saw a shorter, smaller guy like yourself talking to her and doing well. Instead of me being a **** and intimidating the other guy, I sort of felt that if he was going to do something that bold, he should have the girl. A few minutes later, he was getting her number.

Don't let a little thing like height stop you from talking to a girl. I think that many girls would be impressed if you still approached them even though they were surrounded by roided out MMA wannabes.

 

[Kevin Feng]

Believe me I'm in the same situation, I sarge in Hollywood which is quite possibly the most pretentious place in the world, also the best place to train up too. I'm roughly the same height and I'm asian, so I'd almost argue that pick up is way more difficult for me.

Here's the deal, it's a numbers game, most of those buff/douchy looking guys don't really approach that much to begin with, at least in my observation, they just buy a drink and just hope something happens.

Honestly, if you just approached 10 girls a night. I guarantee you'd get at least one number. Remember, its competence, NOT confidence. Pick up is hard work. Just open sets, it's like you're going to the gym and not lifting weights. You'll get better over time, just get over your fear of rejection.

-Kevin

 

[Metaphysical]

I don't care how much confidence I think I have, I'm good-looking and 5'8", and am dwarfed by these douches.

I don't see why these guys are douches just because they were gifted 5 or 6 inches taller than you

Maybe the player-hateration is too strong and women can sense your insecurity with your height.

 

[Lexington]

You can compensate for your lack of looks by working harder. By working harder than the competition, you can overcome many disadvantages and that applies to many things besides the world of pickup/dating.

The height thing isn't a big deal. Like others have said, if you approach enough chicks, you will succeed with at least one. Oh and something about eye contact....a lot of chicks at clubs try to pretend like they didn't notice you but they definitely did.

Girls have better peripheral vision than guys so they can see you even if you think they are out of their field of vision. I was at a club last Friday and I basically just stared down a girl for several minutes. It was nothing creepy, I just looked her way and tried to make eye contact and show interest. There was no way this girl didn't see me. But she acted as though she didn't even notice my presence.

But then this girl started dancing closer to me. Even when I moved to different parts of the dance floor, she was placing herself in a position for me to start grinding on her. It wasn't a coincidence. Sure enough, when I approached, she was receptive. After a few hours of getting hot and sweaty, she was ready for another kind of dancing....the vertical tango.

5'8 isn't exactly tall, but you're not a midget either and you're still taller than most girls. By the way, I'm also 5'8. As long as you dress well, smell nice and you're not morbidly obese or severely deformed, you should be able to pickup decent looking chicks if you make the effort and approach.

Like others have said, there maybe a lot of better looking guys than you. But most of them probably don't do many approaches if at all they do. All the girls go crazy over one of my friends. He's tall, well built and really pretty. Just about every girl I know thinks he's hot.

But, as of late, he's been getting less action than I have because he never approaches. He just waits for the girls to come to him. And I'm not some kind of amazing player. I'm a recovering AFC and I've only been reading about pickup etc. since last September.

 

[MillenniumMike]

Come in the club with several girls and you will get the most attention, a female entourage beats muscles and height any day.

 

[Duffdog]

Come in the club with several girls and you will get the most attention, a female entourage beats muscles and height any day.

What you mean is several ATTRACTIVE girls...average chics don't matter and could severely limit your perceived status.

 

[Duffdog]

Average chicks could help too. Its better than nothing.

I don't know too many guys who roll with a entourage of attractive girls to a club.

I disagree, Just me by myself nets more attractive girls than having a bunch of average females with me.

Well...now you know at least one guy who frequents clubs with hotties in tow. Just think, the last time you saw a guy with an armful of 9s and 10s, did you notice him and wonder how he did that?

Thought so.

 

[Solomon]

I disagree, Just me by myself nets more attractive girls than having a bunch of average females with me.

Well...now you know at least one guy who frequents clubs with hotties in tow. Just think, the last time you saw a guy with an armful of 9s and 10s, did you notice him and wonder how he did that?

Thought so.

Duff

you need to post them FR's with pics asap my dude




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[mikel]

I'm a tall guy and I got alot of friends that are shorter than me that score all the time.

The OP might try to pick up chics in different places besides clubs, You acting like its a problem WILL make it a problem.

 

[slaog]

All I can say is from a personal point of view I wish height was important.

 

[mrRuckus]

Girls have better peripheral vision than guys so they can see you even if you think they are out of their field of vision

Stop blowing these sex differences up to epic proportions.

Women aren't super duper better at reading emotions or body language. They don't have a 360 degree field of vision. They have no idea what you are thinking. They aren't speaking telepathically while you grunt.

Women are CLUELESS. I don't know where you guys get the idea that they have any idea what's going on. Go read any message board relationship garbage for women and it will be full of stupid women who have no idea or worse, THINK they have some idea.

 

[nightcrawler]

being short sucks

 

[Señor Fingers]

I'm barely 5'8" and I never let that stop me, that's cause I made a SPORT of getting rejected. Getting shot down is never a pointless exercise - you ALWAYS learn something and it helps build the tough "I dont give a F*ck" skin that girls naturally are drawn to. At the end of the day, if you don't have the balls to play, then you relinquish any right to complain when you LOSE.

Men initiate, women respond - that's the name of the game so get used to it bro. Yes its true, they notice tall guys first. Yes, there are probably ten guys who are better looking than you at the club - but what you are failing to realize is that 90% of them don't know what to say to women and destroy all that attraction the second they open their stupid mouths.

But when you DO know what to say - when you walk into a set just for laughs, with no attachment whatsoever of the outcome other than fun and experimentation - that already puts you head and shoulders above the tallest dudes in the room.

Making excuses not to play is easy - most guys do it. You need to concentrate on not being most guys, and dealing with this imaginary fear that great harm will come your way if a girl rejects or ignores you. Remember - she's just a girl, and only has as much power over your psyche as you give her.

Of course if you approach her and she sees you looking at buff guys the whole time, don't be surprised if she thinks you playing for the other team

Seriously man, it's time to stop crying about what you cant change and evolve from snowman to snowPLOW - just break through whatever resistance is in your path and nothing will stop you, not rejection, not embarrassment, not the GQ models who are jockeying for the same girl. All that is irrelevant when you are in the right state of mind - direct, driven and MANLY.

Point A = You
Point B = Her

Draw a straight line and connect the dots homey, cause everything else is JUST NOISE.

 

[Duffdog]

Duff

you need to post them FR's with pics asap my dude




:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

I'm going to the 2030 party this sat-- I will take extra pics just for you!

 

[Nutz]

BUT...as far as walking up and piqeuing their interest, I dont believe my height is a factor. As long as one is interesting and keeps the conversation going and injects some humour into the convo you'll be fine.

Use being short as part of the opener...like: "Does this necklace make me look short?" etc. Jokes work well; don't take everything so seriously.

I love this post. Kudos!

 

[TheFlyOne]

:crackup:

Stop blowing these sex differences up to epic proportions.

Women aren't super duper better at reading emotions or body language. They don't have a 360 degree field of vision. They have no idea what you are thinking. They aren't speaking telepathically while you grunt.

Women are CLUELESS. I don't know where you guys get the idea that they have any idea what's going on. Go read any message board relationship garbage for women and it will be full of stupid women who have no idea or worse, THINK they have some idea.

I was thinking the same thing... LMAO :crackup: