Today on "Ophra"

[reset]

can't hold his fork-- end of date, instant NEXT, entire audience applauds.

"men still need to feel like men" (applause).

Women are used to doing things for themselves and should learn to ask men for help without coming off subservient, like a pickle jar. Now if you can't open the pickle jar, then just ask the guy. It's ok.

Q.(paraphrasing oprah)How do we balance that without compromising our integrity as independent women?

A. It doesn't mean that you are somehow disempowered. Now, if you CAN open the pickle jar, ask him anyway, to make him feel good. If he's not there, you open it. Know that us women are the smarter more clever ones. (audience applauds)


Clearly women are the most decisive creatures (applause), men are the most indecisive, don't let men get away with that. If he can't decide where to go to dinner, no one's going anywhere.

Men should always choose where to go to dinner, AND PAY for the dinner (enormous applause), if he buys you a hot dog, "it is what it is", meaning he's cheap, audience chuckles. (Note to self: first date after coffee date is for hot dogs.)

(more telling like it is--women get in touch with yourselves, basically decent stuff)

(oprah)Guys are further behind us socially and traditionally, just accept it, most men at heart are still traditional, so even though they want smart empowered women, they still want to be listened to.

My overall impression is that women are geniuses, men are kind of slow and behind the times, but for a relationship to be successful, just bite the bullet and pretend to not be an independent woman for awhile to appease his ego.

Nothing about having a true masculine man bring out your femininity.

 

[reset]

Oh yeah my other impression after watching all these staged dates in fancy restaraunts where everyone tells their life story, is I understand the importance of a casual coffee date where you're just feeling each other out for about twenty minutes or so. But women may not like that because I'm supposed to take them to a fancy resataraunt and pay (why? WHY???).

Because they are to be put upon pedestals and treated very finely without hardly knowing them at all. So while women are not attracted to guys who do that, they still expect to be treated that way. I don't get it.

 

[LoneSilver]

Your welcome Interceptor. It may have not been what most were looking for but I did my best.

LoneSilver

Thanks for the report, Brother Lone.

 

[LoneSilver]

There ya go reset did you get this off Oprah's site the transcript?

Anyway see what I mean it was more annoying and place men in a bad light in my opinion not that I hate Oprah but her influence is the scary part if she thought all women across america tomorrow should shave their head and wear nose rings they would do it but if Oprahs says give to this kids charity or some greater cause I am all for it.

Anyway if you happened to watch it it actually showed one guy in the audience and he was like WTF was on his face expression lol!

I think the applause from all the women tells the whole story and if you happened to watch it Oprah's can't help herself but give her own two cents worth of opinion and overshadows most guest she has on the show just because shes Oprah billionaire and has an opinion it's almost retarded just because she Oprah everyone should listen and drop everything they are doing man o man want a farce so anyway everyone here who reads my post you get a free car

Surely though not all women are like the ones that appear on her show and they can see right through alot of this crap and they know a good manly man when they see or hear one and I don't mean him passing gas either.

LoneSilver

can't hold his fork-- end of date, instant NEXT, entire audience applauds.

"men still need to feel like men" (applause).

Women are used to doing things for themselves and should learn to ask men for help without coming off subservient, like a pickle jar. Now if you can't open the pickle jar, then just ask the guy. It's ok.

Q.(paraphrasing oprah)How do we balance that without compromising our integrity as independent women?

A. It doesn't mean that you are somehow disempowered. Now, if you CAN open the pickle jar, ask him anyway, to make him feel good. If he's not there, you open it. Know that us women are the smarter more clever ones. (audience applauds)


Clearly women are the most decisive creatures (applause), men are the most indecisive, don't let men get away with that. If he can't decide where to go to dinner, no one's going anywhere.

Men should always choose where to go to dinner, AND PAY for the dinner (enormous applause), if he buys you a hot dog, "it is what it is", meaning he's cheap, audience chuckles. (Note to self: first date after coffee date is for hot dogs.)

(more telling like it is--women get in touch with yourselves, basically decent stuff)

(oprah)Guys are further behind us socially and traditionally, just accept it, most men at heart are still traditional, so even though they want smart empowered women, they still want to be listened to.

My overall impression is that women are geniuses, men are kind of slow and behind the times, but for a relationship to be successful, just bite the bullet and pretend to not be an independent woman for awhile to appease his ego.

Nothing about having a true masculine man bring out your femininity.

 

[jophil28]

I wonder if they sit around and think if they are being real women.

Ha ! Are you seriously suggesting that any woman might ever doubt her own perfection?

I consulted the Guinness Book of Records... There are no recorded incidents of women offering heartfelt apologies to men for wrecking their LTR or their marriages.

There are no records of women really examining their mother's imperatives and replacing the redundant ones with well considered strategies.


Women never consider that THEY could be at fault in anything which goes bad.,. Therefore they have no perceived need to change their ways. Ergo they repeat their disasters and simply blame a guy when things go south.

 

[squirrels]

Explain yourself Sir. I can almost imagine what your going to say, but you tell me.

You know what's on Oprah. That's a class A violation of man-law...I don't care WHAT the circumstances are. :crazy:

 

[mrRuckus]

Hey now lets not forget Super Bowl Sunday.

Talk about a media hoopla but this superbowl should be really interesting but I believe New England will go down in history as the best football team ever and poor Eli Manning will have to wait another year to get his ring.

Whoa, whoa, slow down there bucko. They're playing a league full of mediocrity with the rules bent towards pandering to the QB and WRs. There are several 70s defenses that would crush that offense into nothing while also having offenses that would run their old linebackers right over.

 

[Tazman]

Wow, there's no way I'd have been able to sit through watching that show.....you gotta have a strong stomach for that sh-t.

 

[reset]

Wow, there's no way I'd have been able to sit through watching that show.....you gotta have a strong stomach for that sh-t.

Lol, yeah I only watched it for my assignment.

It was actually helpful for me to see Oprah say stuff like "face it ladies, guys just aren't with the times" because I know more what to deal with I guess. I honestly thought that was how "chicks ARE", no, they are what we let them be. If we don't bring out their femininity, then they will be women acting like men. And you do that by bypassing their layers of social conditioning. But you have to see it for what it is and not confuse it with their true essence.

Now maybe some of them will say "f you, I'm an independent girl who can stand on my own two feet, I need you like a fish needs a bicycle" but some will just instinctually respond to increased masculinity.

What we do here is look RIGHT THROUGH that crap. Right into the nature of women and bring out that part of them that has no social conditioning, no "you go girl!" anti-man crap. There is a woman underneath, that's what I get from Interceptor talking about masculine/female polarity.

I'm seeing this now, I am releasing more of a "vibe" and I can SEE chicks responding differently, though I'm not talking or approaching just yet, I have this certain thing I'm sending out and I can see them subconsciously "freeze" for a moment while they are around me and look at me. It's weird, probably makes no sense while I type it.

Anyway, that's probably the last Oprah I'll be watching for awhile.

 

[joekerr31]

Ha ! Are you seriously suggesting that any woman might ever doubt her own perfection?

Women never consider that THEY could be at fault in anything which goes bad.,. Therefore they have no perceived need to change their ways. Ergo they repeat their disasters and simply blame a guy when things go south.

completely agree. most women lack the ability to even understand what they did was wrong.

remember when you were a kid and were rough housing when your parents were gone and broke your moms favourite lamp? you knew you were going to get in trouble and that what you had done was wrong, but you didn't actually feel it inside. you knew it was wrong because you knew you were going to get in trouble. but you had no self ascribed sense that what you had done was actualy wrong.

if you can remember how your mind was back then, how you didn't really think about consequences and just did what you wanted and then only worried about right and wrong AFTER you had created a mess and knew you were going to get in trouble - you'll have some sense of how women interact with the world.

they simple act on their emotions and later use those emotions to justify just about any behavior they want.

the difference between women and children though is that men don't let children get away with sh*t. if your kid put a hole in the wall because he was rough housing you wouldn't respond by saying 'ohhh that's ok. don't worry about it. let me go buy you an ice cream cake to make you feel better.'

and yet, women can basically drop their panties and sh*t on a mans face while he is sleeping and he wakes up and says 'oh baby you ok? you didn't feel like using the toilet? its ok, i love you."

all because men want the p*ssy.

 

[LoneSilver]

Hell who knows we will see after the game.

Anyway, how the hell are ya mrRuckus?

LoneSilver

Whoa, whoa, slow down there bucko. They're playing a league full of mediocrity with the rules bent towards pandering to the QB and WRs. There are several 70s defenses that would crush that offense into nothing while also having offenses that would run their old linebackers right over.

 

[Interceptor]

Lol, yeah I only watched it for my assignment.

It was actually helpful for me to see Oprah say stuff like "face it ladies, guys just aren't with the times" because I know more what to deal with I guess. I honestly thought that was how "chicks ARE", no, they are what we let them be. If we don't bring out their femininity, then they will be women acting like men. And you do that by bypassing their layers of social conditioning. But you have to see it for what it is and not confuse it with their true essence.

Now maybe some of them will say "f you, I'm an independent girl who can stand on my own two feet, I need you like a fish needs a bicycle" but some will just instinctually respond to increased masculinity.

What we do here is look RIGHT THROUGH that crap. Right into the nature of women and bring out that part of them that has no social conditioning, no "you go girl!" anti-man crap. There is a woman underneath, that's what I get from Interceptor talking about masculine/female polarity.

I'm seeing this now, I am releasing more of a "vibe" and I can SEE chicks responding differently, though I'm not talking or approaching just yet, I have this certain thing I'm sending out and I can see them subconsciously "freeze" for a moment while they are around me and look at me. It's weird, probably makes no sense while I type it.

Anyway, that's probably the last Oprah I'll be watching for awhile.

Reset, thanks for taking the time to report back what you saw.

Good job, SoSuave SOG Recon Patrol Reset!

 

[reset]

lol, no problem.

 

[ketostix]

completely agree. most women lack the ability to even understand what they did was wrong.

remember when you were a kid and were rough housing when your parents were gone and broke your moms favourite lamp? you knew you were going to get in trouble and that what you had done was wrong, but you didn't actually feel it inside. you knew it was wrong because you knew you were going to get in trouble. but you had no self ascribed sense that what you had done was actualy wrong.

if you can remember how your mind was back then, how you didn't really think about consequences and just did what you wanted and then only worried about right and wrong AFTER you had created a mess and knew you were going to get in trouble - you'll have some sense of how women interact with the world.

they simple act on their emotions and later use those emotions to justify just about any behavior they want.

the difference between women and children though is that men don't let children get away with sh*t. if your kid put a hole in the wall because he was rough housing you wouldn't respond by saying 'ohhh that's ok. don't worry about it. let me go buy you an ice cream cake to make you feel better.'

and yet, women can basically drop their panties and sh*t on a mans face while he is sleeping and he wakes up and says 'oh baby you ok? you didn't feel like using the toilet? its ok, i love you."

all because men want the p*ssy.

This is exactly how women function, and this is exactly how and why men and society respond to women's BS. It's also the reason why women shouldn't be given any power and authority. They'll abuse it and misuse it worse than a dictator.

 

[jophil28]

It seems that the best that we can hope for is that a woman will modify her crap behavior ONLY when the pain of the consequences exceed the rewards of her messing up in the first place.

And they have the almighty gall to sit around in the cafeteria and baitch about OUR immaturity. WTF ?

 

[jophil28]

...the reason why women shouldn't be given any power and authority. They'll abuse it and misuse it worse than a dictator.

I have seen numerous examples of women abusing power - that sweet helpful and well liked 35 year old middle manager whio is promoted to Dept head turns into the ultimated B!TCH BOSS.

I also know several chump acquaintences whose wives run the home and they are Tyrants ! This all starts from the male belief "Just make the little woman happy " a few years later he is just a hostage and she is the jailer from heil.

 

[joekerr31]

It seems that the best that we can hope for is that a woman will modify her crap behavior ONLY when the pain of the consequences exceed the rewards of her messing up in the first place.

And they have the almighty gall to sit around in the cafeteria and baitch about OUR immaturity. WTF ?

you know, i was thinking about this as a result of the last thread i replied to.

and i'll tell ya, there have been women in my life who brought no drama to the table. they bent over backwards to please me. they put me on a pedastle and did everything and anything i wanted to try to please me.

and then there were women who i never dated, but who i knew wanted me badly. and they too treated me like a king when they were around me.

i think a lot of it comes back to finding a woman who, for whatever the reason, really sees what is special in you. one who, for whatever the reason, finds herself deeply deeply attracted to you on multiple levels.

unfortunately that's not that easy to find - even for the DJ's out there. its not something you can create through game. it just 'happens' or it doesnt.

when it does you experience how enjoyable women can be. but others, if her IL isn't high enough, they are a pain in the butt because no matter what you do the frame in their head is that you aren't much of a prize.

go figure.

 

[joekerr31]

I have seen numerous examples of women abusing power - that sweet helpful and well liked 35 year old middle manager whio is promoted to Dept head turns into the ultimated B!TCH BOSS.

I also know several chump acquaintences whose wives run the home and they are Tyrants ! This all starts from the male belief "Just make the little woman happy " a few years later he is just a hostage and she is the jailer from heil.

couldn't agree more. right now i just finished interviewing with two companies. in both companies my boss will be a woman (which i can live with, both jobs are over 100k).

anyway, in one interview the b*tch totally busted my balls for NO REASON. none at all. she was confrontational, aggressive, etc. - but no matter how much she tried to pick a fight with me, i just dismissed her attitude and stayed upbeat and mature the whole time (really got under her skin, I could tell).

the other lady though, was a peach. a total pleasure to deal with. she was kind, mature, etc. she didn't care that i was a guy, she simply was exploring my fit for the position. total pleasure to deal with.

let me tell you, its not going to be hard to pick which company i work for when the offers come in

and ironically, the company with the peach make 400+ million profit a year. the company with the b*tch makes no profits (even though it makes billions in revenue, its bottom line sucks and its actually losing money).

hmmm, i wonder why

 

[Interceptor]

This is why IMO is so important to be unaffected by low IL , "rejection" or un Ladylike behavior.

I do not give my Value to those who do not appreciate it or don't even acknowledge it.

I know I sound like a broken record here...but being 'the Rock' is truly the foundation of our masculine Strength.
Not only for women to enjoy and appreciate, but for our Peace of Mind, and for our own Benefit.

 

[joekerr31]

This is why IMO is so important to be unaffected by low IL , "rejection" or un Ladylike behavior.

I do not give my Value to those who do not appreciate it or don't even acknowledge it.

I know I sound like a broken record here...but being 'the Rock' is truly the foundation of our masculine Strength.
Not only for women to enjoy and appreciate, but for our Peace of Mind, and for our own Benefit.

this is one of the toughest things for men to do though. to believe you are the prize when a woman rejects you. it takes great strength of character and great insight to value yourself irrespective of the opinions of others.

hence my post a while ago on self love.

rejection or low IL from a woman MUST be as trivial to you having to put your sunglasses on to shade the glare of the sun. while it may be annoying, you must at the same time see it as trivial.