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This happens when we do not hang our happiness and our Identity on someone else or their opinion.

Brent Smith said "The difference, that makes the difference , is INDIFFERENCE."
This needs to be meditated on ,and understood deeply....
 
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I saw ten minutes of the Hoprah show and there was this middle aged woman - on the heavy side - who went on 152 dates in one year and no second dates!!! What does this tell you? For one, she tried to compete with the men, in subtle ways, through how she talked. Secondly, this was never said, of course, but she didn't look to good for a man to drag away and be excited about!! These middle-aged woman are in serious trouble - dudes are smartening up and not pursuing or marrying these masculine transformers!!

The second woman was a 35 y/o - decent face and body 0 not bad - but she was still single at this age - big warning sign!!!! So there was this counselor/matchmaker who asked her what the problem was, and the girl responded - "I think it may be my fault" and the matchmaker shut her up right away and said "Never say that", "It's not your fault" "That's the wrong attitude to have" - something to that effect!! It is obviously is her fault - she wasn't bad looking and could get a guy easily - so it is obviously something men don't like about HER!!! But those in the hor Matrix don't like reality - so they grasp onto a lie -- and because of this these women are losing - they need love and affection and company more than men - they are not getting it!!!

We want femininity Hoprah, femininity!!!!!
 

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i think the whole oprah show is now centered around the idea and theme that "i'm every woman, it's up to me " thing.
it is all about women who deal with their own issues, and they are usually single.
it's got some good points to it, like promoting literacy (read this month's book club pick from O )
but as everything, it has it's bad points too.

one must choose which points are good and bad for themselves.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Hoprah show
Wow you really CAN get ho from anything.
 

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penkitten said:
i think the whole oprah show is now centered around the idea and theme that "i'm every woman, it's up to me " thing.
it is all about women who deal with their own issues, and they are usually single.
it's got some good points to it, like promoting literacy (read this month's book club pick from O )
but as everything, it has it's bad points too.

one must choose which points are good and bad for themselves.
this is why she is so dangerous. because she has created an artificial halo, wherein she uses the good things to gain peoples trust and then sells them on the bad stuff as though the bad stuff is actually good stuff.

and like good little sheep the women eat it up.

the biggest trick the media plays in general is the old con artist method. when you are tryign to con someone you have to do one of two things. first you msut either gain their trust or peak their greed.

oprah use to make sense. she use to be about common sense. which gained everyones trust. once she had their trust, she started to push her own views / agenda on her audience every once in a while, slowly aclimating people to her own personal mantra on how one should live life. now, she could go out there and tell women to kill all the jews and people would sit there and hear her out.

you see this go on all the time. Bush did it with 9/11 and using fear to gain people's trust - 'i will protect you' kind of thing (btw, fear alone doesn't brainwash people, its the ensuring 'ill protect you' [ie. trust me] that brainwashes them].

anyway, you should pretty much ignore everything you see in the media.

any time you want an answer to something GO READ A BOOK! at least most books are the result of someone spending 12 months of their live researching and writing on a topic - so generally speaking they actually believe what they are saying and have a well thought out explanation for it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Joejerr is right on the point of the issue regarding those in the media - it is all agenda oriented - even cartoons!!

On the jew part you are wrong - those who "call" themselves "jews" are owners of all media and they control the matrix!! If you say anything negative about them you will be destroyed and "black" listed and jobless!! You can get away with saying "kill all muslims" (which I've heard dozens of times) on radio and tv and print, because that is their agenda!!
 

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I don't watch these shows anymore, but I know Dr. Phil is one of the popular guys. I wonder what it would be like if on his show he said, "Hey let's face it, men are the smartest of the two sexes. Women are way behind!"

I can imagine a dead silence. But Oprah says the same thing and I'm sure there were lots of hi-fives.
 

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i can't believe that oprah stuff.
These "fabulous women" are really "conceited women",
labeling themselves something that agrees with their oversized ego.
Their self-obsession reeks right through their overperfumed perms.
Who wants to go out with someone like that?

Did you see the examples used to "prove" men are indecisive?
"If men can't pick a place to go to dinner..."
Well, men don't really want to go to dinner.
And if the woman wants to go, the guy doesn't care where.
Cuz he knows she already has the place picked out, and no matter
where he picks, she's gonna say "no, let's go here".
So men learn quicker, and women are too slow to figure out
we let them think they're smarter.
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Dinner is just a stage for women to preen on, and their
man is just an accessory, one that has less influence
than her shoes and handbags.
Ask a woman "What mutual fund should we invest in?"
and watch her give the blank stares.

Women are only decisive about vane endevours, not about
creating a life of security and happiness.

The whole episode was Oprah trying to convince herself
that her choice of being single is the correct one.
That she "chose" it. Really, she couldn't find a man.
What man could stand being with that hypocritical yappy hippo?

Oprah put two books out about being fit. And she yo-yo's the weight
right back on.
She ain't nuthin but a populist feminist, who constantly dupes
her mindless female sheep to buy more and more of the products
she advertises.
 

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so it sounds like it was just an hour long bitter feminist circle jerk? surprise surprise.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Had a chance to sit with a bunch of girls to watch this on TIVO. The professional matchmaker that they had on the show (a woman) basically said that women nowadays are too proud to allow a man to be a man. She basically told them to put their pride aside and start acting like women if they want to nab a guy. She gave an example of them trying to opening a pickle jar, that it is as easy to ask a man to open it as it is for them to get a knife handle a tap around the lid a times. Oh yeah, she did ream the chick who went on 150 dates in a year for competing with her dates.
 

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Whenever I hear the word "diva" venemous hatred wells up inside of me because little girls grow up wanting to emulate garbage "diva" women thinking its the right thing to do for themselves and their life when it couldn't be any more wrong and awful and part of who we've got to blame for that I believe is Oprah.

As for Dr. Phil he's simply an exploitative piece of ratings mongering garbage.

Had the heat not come down on him from people still possessing some semblance of conscience he most certainly would've exploited Britney Spears on his show until she inevitably killed herself getting Phil his highest rating points ever no doubt.

This vid here is hilarious because Phil is being mocked like he deserves and the Bumfight's creator guy also tells the truth about Phil in the video which makes the stupid middle aged soccer mom audience stop their stupid mindless cheering for this scumbag for a few seconds while the synapses in their brains fire for perhaps the first time ever in their lives...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2yjkTCxXDk
 

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What??? An expert on Oprah saying the fault lies with women???? I had to read the online article covering that Oprah show, but here's what I found...

Patti Novak, one of America's toughest matchmakers, says you may be to blame for your single status.
But she doesn't hold true to that, as you'll see in the following, as she insidiously blames the man for the woman's problems and doesn't really address the real culprit.

After her first failed relationship, Jennifer says she met another man. "[He] was a family guy. Just all the pieces seemed to fit of a guy with a tender heart," she says. But as Jennifer began talking about the future, she says he withdrew. "That's not normal," Patti says. "You know that, right? First of all, you wouldn't let your best girlfriend treat you the way you've let these two men treat you."... "The kind of men that you've chosen is your problem," Patti says. "Why you choose them is even your bigger problem."
In other words, the guy was great but she rushed things and pushed and pressured him with her talk of the future, and so he withdrew, but the relationship expert doesn't examine that, saying instead that it's the men she's choosing that are the problem.

Why did the previous relationship fail? She was engaged to a guy who had a temper problem and acted abusively. Yet, she remained with him for six years, though she didn't like his behavior. Why didn't the relationship expert get more into that this woman is needy and insecure?

Patti says Jennifer accepts their calls, text messages and e-mails. "She still allows herself to be dusted off like a trophy," Patti says.
Because this insecure woman needs tons of validation, it seems, and keeps those exes in her orbit. But the expert makes it sound like it's the guys that are using her, not the other way around, that she's a very insecure woman who needs to fix herself.

Patti says to keep the pickle jar effect in mind when choosing the restaurant for a first date. "We are clearly the most decisive creatures on the planet, women," she says. "And men, please no offense out there, they are the most indecisive. But stop letting them getting away with it."

Patti says to initially let the man pick the restaurant - even if you think your choice is better.
Wha???? One of the biggest gripes feminists have is that for eons, men have been in leadership positions, in business, government, military, home, you name it. For thousands of years, men have traditionally been the Decision Makers... and she says males are the most indecisive creatures on the Planet? What kind of hogwash brainwashing crap is THAT?

Plus, how does it build respect for their male dates, in telling women these idiotic things? And without respect for one another, what kind of relationship are they hoping for? How could a relationship coach advise disrespect?

"And if he takes you out for a hot dog, well, it is what it is."
Maybe better coaching would be: "Let him lead and pick the restaurant and you go ahead and enjoy it, because you're not there for the restaurant, you're there because you want to spend some time with him, regardless if it's for hot dogs or filet mignon. And maybe the place he picks will be a new experience for you and it may broaden your horizons."

You can't fix them. You can only potentially fix you. So you have to work on you."
Closeted in this is yet another insidious swipe at guys. She's implying that the men need fixing, even though she goes on to say that truth that one can only fix themselves.

Patti says you should only spend 10 seconds determining physical attraction and 30 minutes or longer judging emotional chemistry. "It isn't always about beauty or lack of beauty or whether you're a size 5 or you're a size 14," she says. "It's not always about that.
I wasn't aware that physical attraction is something that's determined consciously, as in, "Let's see now... he's tall, in shape, nice smile, blue eyes... Hmmm. Let me think now.... [taps fingers thoughtfully] Okay. I made up my mind! I've decided I will be attracted to him physically!"

And she's telling these large women that it's NOT about "whether you're a size 5 or you're a size 14"???? Physical attraction isn't part of the equation is what she's telling them?

Look at this picture of the woman, Allison, who went on 150 dates. They picked up on that she had an "unkindness" about her; picking up insignificant actions on Allison's part, such as her correcting her date's pronunciation of an Italian city and commenting about her own wine collection when one of her dates mentioned his... and totally ignoring the fact that this woman dresses like a frump and has quite a number of fat rolls apparent all over her.

http://images.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080201/20080201_206_284x218.jpg

Ah so, just more of the same. Men are idiots. You can be fat and insecure, we won't mention it. It's really the guy's fault anyway.

No real help. Nothing's changed.
 

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The funny part about this is the matchmaker is fat and wears her glasses like she's some kind of expert professor plus she's not even lienced as she makes that clear but it's her so called experiences of dating that makes this matchmaker the expert on all men and these women and why they are failing in the dating arena give me a break already.

Has anyone had the opportunity to watch this matchmakers show? Your not missing anything it's so retarded beyond belief.

LoneSilver :cool:
 

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Interceptor said:
When I was about 14 or so I was in a bookstore, and overheard some guy trying to 'pick up ' a super cute little Latina , with long wavy black hair and beautiful eyes...

The guy had just come back from active duty, he was a Marine.

Biggest chump I have ever seen.

to this day I remember that guy, and her reactions to him, and the entiore dialogue like it was yesterday.

I swore to myself I would NEVER act like that with a woman EVER.
How did the dialogue go and what would you have said if you were in said position?
 

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KontrollerX said:
Whenever I hear the word "diva" venemous hatred wells up inside of me because little girls grow up wanting to emulate garbage "diva" women thinking its the right thing to do for themselves and their life when it couldn't be any more wrong and awful and part of who we've got to blame for that I believe is Oprah.

As for Dr. Phil he's simply an exploitative piece of ratings mongering garbage.

Had the heat not come down on him from people still possessing some semblance of conscience he most certainly would've exploited Britney Spears on his show until she inevitably killed herself getting Phil his highest rating points ever no doubt.

This vid here is hilarious because Phil is being mocked like he deserves and the Bumfight's creator guy also tells the truth about Phil in the video which makes the stupid middle aged soccer mom audience stop their stupid mindless cheering for this scumbag for a few seconds while the synapses in their brains fire for perhaps the first time ever in their lives...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2yjkTCxXDk
LOL, that was the funniest sh-t I've seen in a while. I love the fact that it was so blatant and in your face (Dr. Phil's that is).
 

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Mr. Me said:
Look at this picture of the woman, Allison, who went on 150 dates. They picked up on that she had an "unkindness" about her; picking up insignificant actions on Allison's part, such as her correcting her date's pronunciation of an Italian city and commenting about her own wine collection when one of her dates mentioned his... and totally ignoring the fact that this woman dresses like a frump and has quite a number of fat rolls apparent all over her.

http://images.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080201/20080201_206_284x218.jpg
How the fvck does that broad get 150 dates (in 12 or 18 months, wasn't it)?
 

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reset said:
I'm seeing this now, I am releasing more of a "vibe" and I can SEE chicks responding differently, though I'm not talking or approaching just yet, I have this certain thing I'm sending out and I can see them subconsciously "freeze" for a moment while they are around me and look at me. It's weird, probably makes no sense while I type it.
dude, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. I'm in the same boat. Been doing he11a inner game work lately. Clearing out all kinds of crap from my past.

Taiyuu
 

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Interceptor,

Hi! I am very curious about the interaction you recalled in th bookstore. If you have a moment, you would mind summerizing it for me here or on another thread (to stay on topic if needed here).

I am very curious about the words or body language he displayed, and EVEN more curious about her reactions.

I recall some DJ's I was around as a teenager (I did not really realize they were back then, or even as of a year ago!) and easily some of them pulled in women vs. some of the other supposed "tough guys" I knew, who were just chumps!

Being ******d and smooth were physical traits I recall.

Thanks,
eyedogg
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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