To the ugly guys...

[Soprano]

I spent too much time staring at Tom Brady pictures

pause.....

 

[MrLuvr]

You keep digging yourself into a deeper hole. Do you like where you are? Do you enjoy the misery you've created for yourself? Self-loathing can become comfortable after a while...especially if you've convinced yourself that there is nothing you can do.

Just remember that YOUR reality is not another's reality. YOUR experiences are not necessarily what the average man experiences.

I've seen enough odd-pairings to know that looks don't always matter. Do you want to know what matters to most women? MOST WOMEN want a REAL MAN. It's as simple as that. He has to have the right mix of all that push/pull BS. I'm not talking about of those obsessive freakish guys (some of whom are on this here SS) that evaluate and scrutinize EVERYTHING and obsess about every freakin' detail... I am talking about a man who is balanced and won't take BS from a woman. A man who is proud of himself and where he is in life and one who does not complain. These men are at the top of my list (and that of my friends). And no, my friends are not ugly "fat chicks" who pine after unattainable men. Some of these women are very accomplished and superbly feminine women. If you saw some of the men they date, your little mindset would be shattered into bits.

I would never date a man I wasn't attracted to (on some level). What I find attractive differs from what my girlfriend may find attractive. But at the core, we both want a man who is unafraid, one who takes control, one who is comfortable in his own skin and one who is sincere (just to name a few traits). We want the quintessential MASCULINE man. Any man that comes close to this, we will find attractive. The closer he is to this ideal, the crazier and intense the chemistry.

One of my closest friends is married to what you would likely consider an "ugly" guy. He is around her height (around 5'4 or so) or an inch taller (maybe 5'5?) and doesn't have the most handsome face. What's worse, he has girlish fingers. Now my friend is a very beautiful woman (the kind of girl that used to get double-takes in high school). Beautiful is definitely a word I'd use to describe her.

But my friend is very much in love with him because TO HER, he is masculine. He is very much a no-nonsense, no BS kind of guy who is a great provider. He calls her on her BS but also loves her with a fierce, protective passion. She is attracted to him because he is powerful (he's a politician) and because she has never had to question his masculinity.

Now compare this couple with another example. I have a friend who was dating a friend of mine (I set them up). My guy friend is a total dud (had I known how much of a dud he was, I would have never introduced him). Anyway, this guy is in law school, around 6'2 and works out. My friend cant' stand him. At first, she gave him a shot...but now, she is avoiding his calls and wishing he would go away. Eventually she told him that it wasn't going to work (and he claimed to be "shocked" with the news...he felt things were going "so well").

The man has as much masculine energy as I do in my little pinky. He is a wishy washy, self-doubting moron when he is in with a woman he likes romantically. It's quite uncomfortable to watch him in action (I had the pleasure of going on a double-date with them). That night was full of much mental criniging for me. Like I said, if I knew this beforehand, I would've spared my gf the horror that is the DUD.

You see, when a woman is with a masculine man, it's not just about him. Being with a guy who is A MAN is an affirmation and validation for a woman (the masculine energy brings out her feminine energy). Being with a man who is in control and who is unapologetic about his masculinity makes you feel more like a woman. I love being around my bf for this precise reason.

Simply put, we want a man that makes us feel like a woman - and how does he do this? THROUGH HIS MASCULINITY.

I am not sure why this post has gone largely ignored. Maybe because you guys are too caught up in your squabbling.

She has pretty much laid it out for you guys. Read what she has written and UNDERSTAND it. That is what it takes to attract a woman.

 

[thedeparted]

I am not sure why this post has gone largely ignored. Maybe because you guys are too caught up in your squabbling.

She has pretty much laid it out for you guys. Read what she has written and UNDERSTAND it. That is what it takes to attract a woman.

Actually, that post blows. It recommends only two things:

1. Be powerful
2. Be masculine

Most guys are not gonna be powerful, and "be masculine" is about as useful as "be yourself."

This is what happens if you get your PUA advice from women. Yet another reason there should not be women on this forum, period.

 

[ready123]

you guys should go check out PUA Pictures and see how many of these mutha****as are downright ugly or funny looking. I remember when I saw Lovedrop for the first time. Ross Jefferies looks like a rapist. Gunwitch looks like a demon dwarf. Herbal reminds me of the skinny dude from Road Trip.

The difference between them and you guys is they moved past limiting beliefs while you guys kick your feet up and get comfortable in them. you guys would rather find comfort in believeing your lack of results is due to something beyond your control so you can give up . meanwhile other guys work at this for YEARS and eventually reach a level of social intelligence that gives them a coveted lifestyle and grounded reality. at that time, you guys'll probably be the ones hating on them

It's sad because 1) you don't gain ANYTHING from those beliefs except a self-fulfilling prophecy of a lonely life 2) your model on how attraction works is a total KJ model, and 3) you have to make posts about it every week hoping that other people will headnod with you and join your reality and make you feel better

 

[nightcrawler]

you guys should go check out PUA Pictures and see how many of these mutha****as are downright ugly or funny looking. I remember when I saw Lovedrop for the first time. Ross Jefferies looks like a rapist. Gunwitch looks like a demon dwarf. Herbal reminds me of the skinny dude from Road Trip.

The difference between them and you guys is they moved past limiting beliefs while you guys kick your feet up and get comfortable in them. you guys would rather find comfort in believeing your lack of results is due to something beyond your control so you can give up . meanwhile other guys work at this for YEARS and eventually reach a level of social intelligence that gives them a coveted lifestyle and grounded reality. at that time, you guys'll probably be the ones hating on them

It's sad because 1) you don't gain ANYTHING from those beliefs except a self-fulfilling prophecy of a lonely life 2) your model on how attraction works is a total KJ model, and 3) you have to make posts about it every week hoping that other people will headnod with you and join your reality and make you feel better

PUA artists are trying to sell an image dude. They deliberately look the way they do to convince their audience to buy the product.

So yeah, bad example.

I do agree with u do...I've seen hotties with butt ugly guys

 

[ready123]

PUA's deliberately make themselves ugly? So Lovedrop really doesn't look like pretzels and beer are gonna fall out of his mouth when he talks? amazing

and Ross Jefferies and Gunwitch and all the ugly guys out there can't pull. I guess they've been fooling everyone for over a decade now and came up w/ their methods by sheer luck

Also, I'm NOT a KJ. I'm in the field 2-3 nights a week. I'm pretty public, posting pics of met at clubs with friends.

if you're not a KJ, then keep going out and having fun. eventually you'll surprise yourself

 

[StevenR]

This is why ugly guys get hotties-because they are great in bed and give the women the hot steamy sex and multiple screaming o's they always wanted. If you are ugly the hard part is getting there to show them how great in the sack you are. Girls also like to talk about sex and will talk about these things with their friends more than guys will, so word will get around in her social circle about how great in bed you are. Of course that isn't much good if you are exclusive with one woman.

 

[Crazy Asian]

wow
"
I've seen enough odd-pairings to know that looks don't always matter. Do you want to know what matters to most women? MOST WOMEN want a REAL MAN. It's as simple as that. He has to have the right mix of all that push/pull BS. I'm not talking about of those obsessive freakish guys (some of whom are on this here SS) that evaluate and scrutinize EVERYTHING and obsess about every freakin' detail... I am talking about a man who is balanced and won't take BS from a woman. A man who is proud of himself and where he is in life and one who does not complain. These men are at the top of my list (and that of my friends). And no, my friends are not ugly "fat chicks" who pine after unattainable men. Some of these women are very accomplished and superbly feminine women. If you saw some of the men they date, your little mindset would be shattered into bits.

I would never date a man I wasn't attracted to (on some level). What I find attractive differs from what my girlfriend may find attractive. But at the core, we both want a man who is unafraid, one who takes control, one who is comfortable in his own skin and one who is sincere (just to name a few traits). We want the quintessential MASCULINE man. Any man that comes close to this, we will find attractive. The closer he is to this ideal, the crazier and intense the chemistry." > DJ Bible