To don juans 50+ like zekko and atom smasher

[cola]

What happend to the american dream?
Did you have kids?
Were you married?
Are you really 50?
Do you talk to women that are 50+?
Are you financially succesful?

Just wondering

 

[Down Low]

Ha ha. A quiz. I'll take a crack at it. Let's see how many right answers I get.

What happend to the american dream?

The money for it got wasted on the Cold War / Vietnam War / Korean War. So did the dreams of Gens X Y Z.

Did you have kids?

Honestly, I don't know. Hell, I got one now claiming to be pregnant, but I don't trust her any farther than I can throw her.

Were you married?

No.

Are you really 50?

Yes.

Do you talk to women that are 50+?

Yes, and I occasionally screw 'em too.

Are you financially succesful?

No.

Just wondering

I been wondering about it for decades.

 

[Atom Smasher]

What happend to the american dream?

Feminism happened. The powers that be put women into the workforce by boggling their brains through T.V., magazines, etc. As women entered the workforce, men's jobs simply disappeared as women filled those slots. Therefore there was a massive trickle-down effect. Men who should be holding decent jobs are now working at 7-11 because they have been bumped down due to too many people in the workforce. But the powers are happy because now women are slaving away at the 9 to 5 just like men and paying taxes.

Did you have kids?

Nope.

Were you married?

No. I was engaged once but broke it off.

Are you really 50?

55.

Do you talk to women that are 50+?

Rarely. I'm so young for my age (both in looks and in demeanor) that women in their 50s seem ancient to me. Mid-30s to mid-40s is my comfort level.

Are you financially succesful?

Yes. 2 businesses and a thriving music career.

Just wondering

What makes you ask?

 

[bigneil]

The American Dream is being trashed by Sheeple who tolerate gross violations of Natural Law.

28 is physically prime for most men IMO. You can maintain it with diet and exercise. 40-41 have been my best years so far in terms of the girlfriends.

 

[SteR]

Since we're targeting the older gents here, I have a couple of questions:

Are your 30s really the best years of your life as a man? (in terms of attracting women)

Knowing what you know now, not just in regards to women, what key advice would you pass on to the younger generation? (and I mean 'key' since this is a rather open-ended question and I'm sure you could give a thousand answers)

 

[Atom Smasher]

Since we're targeting the older gents here, I have a couple of questions:

Are your 30s really the best years of your life as a man? (in terms of attracting women)

Knowing what you know now, not just in regards to women, what key advice would you pass on to the younger generation? (and I mean 'key' since this is a rather open-ended question and I'm sure you could give a thousand answers)

The 30s is really the first decade of adulthood. For me, I still didn't have a clue about women. This didn't change until my late 40s. I would say that ideally your 30s could and should be your best years in regard to women, but it all depends on the individual. Looking ahead the 40s and 50s seems amazingly old, but looking back it's not that way at all. From this vantage point, it's not "Wow, I'm old and you're young". Rather, it's "We're all adults" and people in their 30s, 40s and 50s all seem about the same.

So for me, my best years with women are my 50s. For you it might be 30s. Sexually, there is almost no difference between now and when I was in my twenties. When I was in my early twenties my 35 year old boss said that sexually he was just the same, and in my infinite wisdom I said to myself "Yeah, right". LOL, he was ancient to me.

I can happily report that even into your 50s you remain virtually the same sexually. I notice no diminishment at all, except perhaps that I have better self-control, that I don't need sex to validate my manhood.

Good times are ahead, young men! Back in the 1960s, 40 was considered OLD. Nowadays people stay younger much longer. If you guys could actually see me you would be shocked. You would be certain you were looking at a 35 year old.

For question #2:

Learn self-discipline. Undoing bad habits is massively, MASSIVELY difficult when you're older.

Value yourself above women. Realize that this is our world and that we need to reassert that. It is the natural order and our birthright. Every man should consider himself a King, taking care of his people, respecting and helping them but severely punishing outright disrespect.

 

[zekko]

What happend to the american dream?
Globalization, IMO. It was inevitable as the world became smaller and more connected. The rest of the world caught up with us. Manufacturing jobs went overseas because their laborers would work cheaper. US employees are too expensive, especially when you throw in things like health care.

In fact, if there is one thing I have to say that I never saw coming as a younger man is the skyrocketing cost of health care. It's just become insanely expensive. I honestly don't know how people can afford it. I know some older people who are close to losing their house, but they're still paying big bucks to the health insurance companies.

Did you have kids?
Nope. I never really wanted any, and I've been extremely fortunate to find a few women as significant others in my life who were either infertile and/or didn't want children either.

Were you married?
Once. The wife divorced me. Now I cohabitate with my girlfriend. I'll have to be close to death before I risk trying marriage again And then it would only be to spare my girlfriend a huge tax bill in the event of my death.

Are you really 50?
51, actually.

Do you talk to women that are 50+?
I talk to several women who are 50+. I find that a few of them are still sexually appealing, but they're married. However, most women I know are younger. I don't think I've ever had sex with any girl over 40, honestly.

Are you financially succesful?
Yes. Certainly moreso than I ever thought I'd be.

Are your 30s really the best years of your life as a man? (in terms of attracting women)
I found that the 30s and 40s were both about equally great, in fact I found the extra age and maturity an advantage. I wish I could say that about the 50s, but unfortunately I think that advantage dries up by that time. I'm not sure girls are that thrilled with the idea of dating someone in their 50s, there's a certain stigma there, like you're on the downhill run. They can rationalize dating a guy in their 30s or 40s. I don't think they really want to even think about being in their 50s. It's not that you can't do it (date younger girls in your 50s), but the advantage is gone.

Knowing what you know now, not just in regards to women, what key advice would you pass on to the younger generation?
Get your house in order, especially financially. Do what you have to do to maximize your income, whether it be education, extra hours working on your business, whatever. Live simply within your means, save for the future, study about retirement, invest in retirement. It comes around more quickly than you might think, and I would take the attitude that you'll have to pay your own way. The quicker you start and the harder you hit it, the better off you'll be. I don't plan on working my whole life.

 

[Who Dares Win]

The 30s is really the first decade of adulthood. For me, I still didn't have a clue about women. This didn't change until my late 40s. I would say that ideally your 30s could and should be your best years in regard to women, but it all depends on the individual. Looking ahead the 40s and 50s seems amazingly old, but looking back it's not that way at all. From this vantage point, it's not "Wow, I'm old and you're young". Rather, it's "We're all adults" and people in their 30s, 40s and 50s all seem about the same.

So for me, my best years with women are my 50s. For you it might be 30s. Sexually, there is almost no difference between now and when I was in my twenties. When I was in my early twenties my 35 year old boss said that sexually he was just the same, and in my infinite wisdom I said to myself "Yeah, right". LOL, he was ancient to me.

I can happily report that even into your 50s you remain virtually the same sexually. I notice no diminishment at all, except perhaps that I have better self-control, that I don't need sex to validate my manhood.

Good times are ahead, young men! Back in the 1960s, 40 was considered OLD. Nowadays people stay younger much longer. If you guys could actually see me you would be shocked. You would be certain you were looking at a 35 year old.

For question #2:

Learn self-discipline. Undoing bad habits is massively, MASSIVELY difficult when you're older.

Value yourself above women. Realize that this is our world and that we need to reassert that. It is the natural order and our birthright. Every man should consider himself a King, taking care of his people, respecting and helping them but severely punishing outright disrespect.

Its always pleasable to read this man, he point at whats bad without venting or any persecution attitude at the same time he makes clear whats good and what is useful to be done.

So according to your experience and considering how the average young guy behave, what is the biggest mistake he does and what he should do instead?

 

[nismo-4]

My turn.

What happend to the american dream?

Money in the wars and it's a lot smaller than in the 80's.

Did you have kids?

Never have, probably never will.

Were you married?

Never, probably won't.

Are you really 50?

I'm really 50 divided by 2.

Do you talk to women that are 50+?

Hell Yeah! I took a couple of women over 60 into chambers. I can't stand young women.

Are you financially succesful?

Not yet. Can't wait to get there. Much more prospects and time with the family.

Just wondering

Read between the lines.

 

[SteR]

Bump. I want to hear more words of wisdom...

(and thanks to the guys who've already responded!)

 

[betheman]

What happend to the american dream?

Im not American but 'the dream' was an aspiration, a glorious one but feminism put the bot into that, now its a nightmare.


Did you have kids?
4

Were you married?
yes, 21 years, a reasoanbly good marriage for the most part but had this site been around 30 years or so ago, it wouldnt have happened and wont again of that I am pretty certain.

Are you really 50?
very nearly

Do you talk to women that are 50+?

yes, but they are a strange bunch, they want to be married and settled down more desperately than a 25 year old wants a child. its not going to happen with me, I dont know about other guys but the 'wall' although being hit by many women at 40, really becomes a physical trainwreck at 50 for women, the good looking women at 50 + are very few and far between.

Are you financially succesful?
not really but Im independant, good career and a decent wage

Just wondering

to younger guys, get your sh1t together asap, health, keep your weight down, work out, dont overdo the partying and do not let a woman be only source of your happiness, you will end up more miserable 99% of the time

 

[coochieman]

JUST SAW THIS

GUYS WHO ARE 40+.....

Please, be kind to join in.....

More!

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I love these threads!

Love learning from the older wiser dudes on this forum! Like access to elders who can give insight that in our modern day world is drowned out by videogames and garbage.

You guys all rock and I genuinely appreciate all you contribute and share! I hope 20 years from now I'm as willing and open as you all!

 

[Rubirosa]

The American Dream went away when America stopped being a nation that manufactured things. Now we just move money around to "make" money and only a select few can get rich doing that. Add the element of lazy entitled a-holes who feel they deserve a comfortable life without working for it, and you have the mess we're in now.

I was married once during my late 20's to early 30's. Exwife was BPD I believe. I married her because of her awesome breasts and because I thought she didn't have any "baggage". I was a chump.

I really am 46 and I do consider myself lucky in that regard. I have memories of the 1960's (I remember seeing hippies in the park), I grew up during the 1970's (awesome TV and music...."What's Happening ? " Led Zep....KC and the Sunshine Band) and I partied at clubs in the 1980's.

Yes, I have slept with women in their 50's. Some were quite beautiful.....stunning in fact....but close up in bed you could see their facelift scars and grey roots.

I'm financially very comfortable, but I need to save more


Advice for the youngsters ?

You CAN get ahead, but you need to work harder than the guy next to you. Half a$$ effort will get you half a$$ results

Travel whenever you can. Some of my most vibrant memories are of my international travels.

You need to realize your true talent and cultivate that. Don't waste too much time trying to be something your not cut out for just because you think it's cool.

Learn to fight. This is easier said than done. You WILL get injured, but the confidence it gives you is amazing.

The true definition of a man ? Bond. James Bond. (I'm serious)

 

[coochieman]

"You CAN get ahead, but you need to work harder than the guy next to you. Half a$$ effort will get you half a$$ results."

"...to younger guys, get your sh1t together asap."

"Learn self-discipline."

''Get your house in order, especially financially. Do what you have to do to maximize your income, whether it be education, extra hours working on your business, whatever.''

See the trend. They can't be wrong. Please continue, dads (By the way I'm 20)....

Another Question is...

Using your discretion and experience over time, Would you advice me to get married 'cos I'm seriously beginning to doubt if I want that ?

 

[ArcBound]

I appreciate all the responses from older members. Great thread cola.

But it also kind of scares me. Cause I grew up thinking I would always have kids at some point or another and get married and have it last long.

Reading these responses I see that it doesn't always happen, divorce happens, life happens, cost of raising kids. I feel like sometimes when I read stuff from the older guys it discourages me from trying to get married or have kids myself, and every time someone makes a "the western women is unmarriable" thread a part of me dies on the inside.

But then I go outside and date some girls telling myself I'm too young to be worrying about this sh!t, half believing it, half not.

 

[Fly By Night]

Thank you for the passing down of knowledge. My dad teaches me things like staying in school, keeping track of your money, and such. But he never really taught me how to be a MAN. Because of that, I find myself putting up with disrespect and believing in the social norm of "success".

Men, we ARE the elite of the males. Simply because we see the world around us differently than the majority of us.

And I feel what you're talking about Arc. I always wanted to get married, but now it seems like it will just be a hanging guillotine on your assets.

Sucks, but you have to change your mentality to face the facts.

 

[Desdinova]

Knowing what you know now, not just in regards to women, what key advice would you pass on to the younger generation?
Get your house in order, especially financially. Do what you have to do to maximize your income, whether it be education, extra hours working on your business, whatever. Live simply within your means, save for the future, study about retirement, invest in retirement. It comes around more quickly than you might think, and I would take the attitude that you'll have to pay your own way. The quicker you start and the harder you hit it, the better off you'll be. I don't plan on working my whole life.

I started putting away for retirement when I was 20 years old. When I switched jobs at age 30, I calculated my pension payments to maximize how comfortably me and my wife would be able to survive on it. Now, the wife has been booted out of my life and I haven't changed my pension payments. I'm going to be perfectly comfortable when I'm done working.

Speaking of which, I love my job. With this job, I have more 'me' time than I would with most other jobs. I get a decent amount of vacation time and I don't work full days. I also make decent enough money to survive on.

I think life is all about maximizing the amount of 'me' time I can get. The more time I get to spend doing the things that I want, the better and more fulfilling my life is going to be.

 

[Robert28]

I'm not 50+ but being 31 I am always happy to pass on advice to anyone younger that asks.

What happend to the american dream?
politicians along with the other reasons that have been mentioned.
Did you have kids?
nope, and I've never had the strong desire to have kids. I secretly hate most people's kids.
Were you married?
nope. I have only date one girl in my entire life that I would have ever considered marrying. you know all those times you "think" you're really in love? you aren't. you MIGHT love one person in your life other then your family and friends.
Are you really 50?
31
Do you talk to women that are 50+?
most women 35+ won't give me the time of day because I look younger then I really am and they don't take me seriously. I will say though that the best sex I've ever had was with a 40yr old and I was 28 at the time.
Are you financially succesful?
the government seems to think so every April 15th

 

[Korrupt]

Wow, great topic. Gotta get my own sh!t together, especially my mindset and priorities. Feel like I put more effort into not only chasing, but also thinking about and over-analyzing pvssy than I do anything else..