Tired of Games

[holidayad_]

As for prostitutes, how satisfying is it to have to pay someone to pretend to like you?

One way or another, I'm going to pay. If not with sex directly, then with drinks, dinners and other things. At least *****s are honest in the transaction.

 

[zekko]

One way or another, I'm going to pay. If not with sex, then with drinks, dinners and other things. At least *****s are honest in the transaction.

That's kind of a defeatist attitude. Try dating a giver instead of a taker.

 

[holidayad_]

I was thinking today, as I often do, how all women have to do is be pleasant and nice to you, and that's sexy as hell. But apparently for a guy more is required, and being nice and pleasant might even work against you (although I've always thought women who hold that against you aren't worth your time).

Coincidentally, I was talking to my roomie yesterday and she started telling me about the standards she looks for in a man. He needs to:

1. Taking care of himself, going to the gym.
2. Making money.
3. Being able to look after her.
4. Having plans and ambition.
5. Be detached.

 

[holidayad_]

No. You are way off base. The “alpha” with enough self assurance to show his humanity who has his act together.

You're from another generation. Naturally, there are very different concepts and behaviors from today's girls.

 

[patb]

I see me as sigma. Without wing cold approaching and clubbing can be hard, but on the other hand, a good wing is really hard to come by, I haven't yet stumbled on any candidate. What do other sigmas think of sigma life?

Though the respect I receive at studies is more an alpha.

Everyone here thinks he's a sigma. I think sigmas are largely just omegas high on their own supply.

 

[SW15]

I think sigmas are largely just omegas high on their own supply.

It's ridiculous to compare a sigma to an omega. An omega is a bottom tier male who isn't getting laid. A sigma is an introverted guy who is often good looking, mysterious, and getting laid.

 

[patb]

It's ridiculous to compare a sigma to an omega. An omega is a bottom tier male who isn't getting laid. A sigma is an introverted guy who is often good looking, mysterious, and getting laid.

They are both social outcasts (one with delusions of grandeur). The fact that one happens to be “getting laid” and one is not is an often ephemeral fact that says little about their innate value or disposition, other than the willingness of the “sigma” to beclown himself for female favor. “Being mysterious” is subjective and meaningless in itself.

 

[forcerecon01]

Men are struggling mightily in the mating market. There are a lot of statistics that support that statement.

Plenty of men went to college and obtained a bachelor's degree and a decent white collar job. For their efforts, they struggle to get vagina. This didn't happen in past decades. It is a phenomenon of the 2000s and beyond and has mainly affected Millennials and Gen Z.



Many women now think the overwhelming majority of men are not viable or acceptable. Consider the right swipe rates. They are in the low single digits. Rollo Tomassi is well known for saying that the average woman wants nothing to do with the average man.

White women likely the most fussy in the United States.

Women routinely dismiss men for the most trivial of things, a behavior that is most pronounced in White, college educated women.

You're correct that men used to be respected for a bachelor's degree or useful trade certification and a decent white collar or blue collar job. Now? That doesn't seem to make a lot of a difference for a lot of men.

Men are getting thirstier than ever as women are rejecting more and more men. As women reject more and more men, men turn to substance abuse and excessive consumption of porn accompanied by masturbation.

The dating market is telling men they aren't good enough.

The solution is maximizing some combination of looks, money, status, and personality/charisma. Looks and money are most important. Rollo Tomassi says "Money, Muscles, and Game".

What a sad reality

 

[SW15]

They are both social outcasts (one with delusions of grandeur). The fact that one happens to be “getting laid” and one is not is an often ephemeral fact that says little about their innate value or disposition, other than the willingness of the “sigma” to beclown himself for female favor.

An omega is often an obese guy, a neckbeard, or a really strange and creepy guy like an Eliot Rodger.

A sigma is a better looking guy, maybe even a motorcyclist, and is more socially adept with women.

Women enjoy being seduced by sigmas but are repulsed by omegas.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I don't mind a bit of mental gymnastics with a woman and at times I enjoy testing my wits against hers especially when I beat her

But I am only playing if the rules are clear and fair , once a woman starts taking days to reply to me I lose interest very fvcking quickly

Also usually when they are entertaining too many men the problems start ,

No man should ever be begging any woman for her attention yet its happening day in day out and this has warped the game too heavily in the female favour

The smart women are aware of this and they know deep down that forcing men to chase them isn't going to make them happy in the long run.

but Women on swipe apps are so delusional I think ghosting is seen as some sort of right of passage to her " PERFECT MAN "

They seem to generally disrespecting mens time and then wonder why they are single

really men around the world need to call them out more on it , because if it was the other way around there would be endless social media videos complaining about it

Ultimately most guys are too proud to admit this terrible female behaviour which seems to have become prevalent in the last 10-20 years

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I will rarely if ever double message a woman and hell will freeze over before I ever beg for a woman's time or attention as quite simply mine is worth more than hers

I burn through a lot of leads because of this and at the slightest sign the games are turning into disrespect I am out of there

 

[zekko]

Coincidentally, I was talking to my roomie yesterday and she started telling me about the standards she looks for in a man. He needs to:

1. Taking care of himself, going to the gym.
2. Making money.
3. Being able to look after her.
4. Having plans and ambition.
5. Be detached.

"Be detached" seems to be a strange thing for a woman to want in a man. I mean I can see her being attracted to it, but it seems a strange thing to verbalize it, to name it as something she wants.

 

[BeExcellent]

"Be detached" seems to be a strange thing for a woman to want in a man. I mean I can see her being attracted to it, but it seems a strange thing to verbalize it, to name it as something she wants.

Straight from the Ladies’ Locker Room…..

It’s not that strange really. It’s needing room to breathe and not wanting a man who smothers you. That equates to a bit of detachment.

Cheers

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

"Be detached" seems to be a strange thing for a woman to want in a man. I mean I can see her being attracted to it, but it seems a strange thing to verbalize it, to name it as something she wants.

It's more like 'reserved' and 'grounded'. Many women feel like their impulsive nature needs to be curbed, they want to be able to have 'flights of fancy' without having the consequences of risky behaviour. They like to feel safe, but not smothered.

 

[BeExcellent]

People use different descriptors. But ya I thinks we are all interpreting the intent quite similarly. How much security an individual woman requires will be inversely proportional to her security in herself.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

How much security an individual woman requires will be inversely proportional to her security in herself.

Truth.
I'd put it more like:
How much security an individual woman requires will be proportional to her insecurities.

 

[zekko]

It’s not that strange really. It’s needing room to breathe and not wanting a man who smothers you..

Surely there must be a good deal of space in between detachment and smothering.
To me, detachment sounds "cold". Obviously smothering is bad.

 

[BadBoy89]

I was talking to my roomie yesterday and she started telling me about the standards she looks for in a man.

You have a female roommate? I'm guessing she's fat or ugly because if she was hot you wouldn't be able to control yourself.

Or she has a 6'1 boyfriend. And if that was the case she wouldn't be living with you.

 

[holidayad_]

You have a female roommate?

Yep. Italian girl. Big breasts. New in the house. Let's see what happens.

 

[Don Jax]

I've just come across this thread.

OP, I understand your feeling.

I've developed a low tolerance over my years for women who play games of any kind. She's playing hard to get? She has little interest. Next. Taking too long to answer you? Next.

If a woman is playing games with you, she's not the ideal woman.

When you apply this, it gets easier. BUT, for this to work, you need to have other plates. Otherwise, you end up feeling alone. Especially if you're a lone wolf in life in general.

It's important to find a balance. Having a low tolerance like this will burn bridges.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hey all

Simple post:

Do you ever get tired of having to play or respond to games in the dating scene?

Because I am.

Sex for sex's sake, there are ladies of the night. Connecting deeply with a woman these days is practically like winning the lottery anyways.

You are meeting the wrong women.

Why would expect to find that type of relationship material woman at a bar or a club?

It would be like looking for produce in a butcher shop. Makes no sense.