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This could be a cultural phenomenon at work again. The Western World follows the U.S. lead and we all eat a Big Mac and copy the latest thang, especially dialect and even dress. That is where the similarity tends to end. Americans are more likely to fall for DLP than a European/Australian. That is why you can have shows like Sally Jessie, Maury Povich, Oprah Winfrey, Ricki Lake, Jerry "somebody" and Dr. Phil. An Australian audience would not attend and a European audience the same. Your culture is about power, strength and purging your thoughts without necessarily resolving anything. Look at Blair, Howard, Cole and Bush....spot the difference? The first three can read/write/speak and digest information. Bush can gush a few catch cries and a "God Bless America" and you swoon. Anthony Robbins can scream "you're cured" and you swoon.

Look at European phsychological thrillers and dramas and look at your own. Detective Gorhan cracks the case via his witty pursuit of a packaged mental health disorder. Then look at Cracker and see something resembling accuracy.

DLP has massive failure, as matter of fact it has very little success. It works "in the venue" but three weeks later?, three months later? You walk accross some coal and your miserable life is cured. Read "Darwins Worm", life simply is a struggle, from the lowest life form to the most complex life form. Those people who actually self actualize (2%) usually achieve it in their seventies and usually after years of therapy. The rest is "pretence" and just layering another onion ring over the problem.

Women, believe it or not, are all individuals with individual needs, aspirations and desires. Some generalizations do hold true.

So, while DLP says, divert, shut down and make the negative behaviour dissapear through fear, I say, "Don't just do something...STAND THERE".

This site has some good advice and whilst it can be very simple sometimes, there are measures of truth to much of it. You just have to weed out the cultural differences and the malarky and get to the point.
 

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If psychologists had the answer for how to 'get with women', then they would be rich and there would be no need for sites like this or ASF.

The reality is that psychology itself really isn't that much of a help to getting women.

This forum is all about figuring out the strategies that actually have the best probablity of working in certain situations.

Going deeper then that, this forum is about acquiring a state of mind and a new set of patterns that when followed and integrated into our subconscious, leads us to make different decisions, which in turn take us to a new level when attracting and retaining relationships with women.
 

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He's got the right idea about studying women's behavior and seeing what works repeatedly vs what doesn't. However, most of his "psychology" is bad science and bullsh!t.
 

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In a nutshell, I agree with Pulsar, he probably phrased all my points much better and much more easily than I did. I concur.
 

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This guy also said it better. Phsychiatry allows us to pose questions and help others stem and control their thoughts. If behavioural sciences could "predict", hell, I could quit tomorrow the wealthiest man in the WORLD.

We can only probe, whereas tactics and analogies of real life situations may help us at least practice.
 

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you guys know that almost every work of freud of has been/is discarded by todays pchycologists, right?
 

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Wrong! That is a massive generalization. His work has been improved upon, but he gave birth to it.

I hope we don't argue the virtues of Freud, it simply is somehow rude. We may as well attack Newton for not actually explaining exactly WHAT gravity is.
 
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I'm not mad at ya. I've been attacked so much on this forum it means nothing to me anymore.


1. This post has bought laughter to my throat.

2. You sir are an idiot. Not because you are attacking the mods or even myself. You claim that I'm a Don Juan when since I've been here I've denied EVER being such creature.

3. You create a new screen name to throw shyt on the wall so nobody knows who you are is my other problem with you. That to me says a weak character. You can't stand up on your own. Instead you have to hide in the internet darkness.

4. I have no problem with what you said. I agree with most of it. Why? Because this is my belief:

Take no advice from the person who isn’t doing the things you want to do or living the life you want to live.

If you want to learn martial arts you go to a school where you learn from a black belt. You know he is a black belt because you can see his ranking (proof) you will also see other signs of his certification such as trophies, awards…but basically you will see visable signs of proof that he is capable of teaching you.

You need to talk to men who get women and start doing the things that they do and start behaving like a man who gets women.


So you claim to be a Don Juan. Where is your proof?

If you think because your a behavorist that makes you good at handling women, then you better think again. Actually why are you even here?

Everybody knows that people in your professions are more fawked up than average and you go into it to try to fix yourselves.

So let's step into the light and be a man.

1. When was the last time you did a pick up?

2. Can you prove this...ie photo's or IM convo's or Emails...since this is the internet let's use the tools of the internet. For example.

I am at the supreme level of being a player. Do you know what a player is? I am a low down dirty dog, as I've admitted to on this forum many times. Here are some proof of this statement that I used way back then when I fessed up:

PlayaSupreme

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=823345

PlayerSupreme:

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=570549

and here are written proofs of my statment:


1st the bad shyt;

I can't believe you pimped women out for money.......that's disgusting and really speaks to your character......you are a pimp chico.......a man who hates women and treats them like ****.......i hate you.......

***********

I'm sure it's not too late for you to get your 22 year old back who thinks
she loves you so much.......if she only knew what you were really
about.......but then again......that's just another broken heart for
you......i really hope you don't get aids and die.....but it's a likely
chance they way you live your sexual life.................plus you can go
back to linda, julianna, tina, sara and whoever else you've been f*cking
since I met you.........you really blow my mind........

Col : !
Col : or ? whom ever
ZenMack: Hold on....
Col : okay!
ZenMack: wazup *****...
Col : Shut your mouth!
ZenMack: make me ho
Col : Daddy I am finding out that you were right
ZenMack: do you know who your talkin to now:
ZenMack: right about what
Col : I know who does it for me.
ZenMack: yeah you betta represent...
Col : When I talk w/ men i know that they will not do it for me ....
ZenMack: then you need to get yo big ass back on my mutha ****in team
ZenMack: I know you need your daddy
ZenMack: don't ya babygirl
Col : I cannot feel their manhood... their being... you how in tune I am tune 2 that.
Col : yes daddy........
ZenMack: Say your sorry...
Col : I had a man get so pissed that I wouldnt talk my pants off........
ZenMack: I guess you had to learn didn't you
Col : Baby, Daddy I am so sorry that I doubted you.
ZenMack: You gotta buy your way back into my good graces babygirl....
Col : Oh Daddy anything
ZenMack: feed a nigga
ZenMack: **** a nigga
Col : Your babygirl is here!
ZenMack: Put some money into my account again too.
ZenMack: this sunday at 1pm bring yo big ass down here
Col: That is all I have ever wanted to do.....but you confused me.....
Col : okay Daddy!
ZenMack: later!
Col : Muah!

And now some of the good shyt;

My love, my friend
When I first saw you I felt your sprit.......I brought me back in time, when I was not alive yet, not even a thought to anyone.
You sent me to that place where only we can be together,you know the one ........
I often think of your wonderful black skin touching my Ivory skin..........although i am a child of the sun .my skin is fair.....The contrast when we are connected sets a blaze.......Your kiss is ignightig..Daddy I need you so, Mi Amour! My love, my friend


Now I could go on and on but it's really not necessary.

Oh are you aware that Starman was also a psychologist? And a notorious lying sack of shyt?

Don't bother with smoke and mirrors stuff. If your bad then step up. I'm calling you out.

Now let's see if you respond like I think you will.
 
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Hey P S

Player Supreme,

You had some other download that took twenty minutes before I quit. I forgot the bloody post cause I was gonna try again later.

It was under a heading "Imagine an AFC in this situation"

Could you post it again please, it was footage I think.
 
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Player Supreme,

You had some other download that took twenty minutes before I quit. I forgot the bloody post cause I was gonna try again later.

It was under a heading "Imagine an AFC in this situation"

Could you post it again please, it was footage I think.
You know what it was a fight movie. Nothing to really look at and I no longer have the movie link in my files. I will try to look at another site to locate it.

So what do you think of this wack-off waving the Psychologist flag around here like he is actually an expert on meeting women.

I will bet he changes his screen name and fades to the background once the light of reality shines on him.
 

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Trying to jump que. Behavioural science requires observing behaviour. Psychiatry is good for harm minimization and probing but psychiatrists themselves know nothing more about this subject than anyone else.

I run a specialist clinic because practicing psychiatry gave me depression. I couldn't cope with transference and detachment.

So, well, I think he blew some steam and tried to prop himself up.

Good to hear from you P S by the way.
 

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ahhh.... so now let us talk about the PLAYER_Supreme!!! ... how supreme is he? of course.... with Three Thousand Threads of more than a thousand words each and he is the know it all!!!

and btw what are you babbling about internet hiding and shyt?!!! r u taking some weeed? LoLouder how come you are all day typing in front of the computer just like crazy kid and you don't even give just one real piece of advice?!!!!

so again back to my beer thread.... let me give you an example so that perhaps you will understand.... so let's assume that if you noticed that any guy wearing a say a black shorts, white shirt and a red cap (we are only assuming here!!!!) and you knew that all these guys wearing this stuff were picking up hot hb10s wouldn't you go out wearing the same stuff? and wouldn't you pick up like them?!!! of course!!!

you see this is just normal nlp of course in real life things aren't that simple and straight forward but the beer thing is just one part of the entire picture.

if i told you that in our clinic we noticed that depressed people use to walk around all day with their head pointed down with a sad face, and if i told you that we trained such people to look straight up towards people's eyes and try to smile more. Well you know what? the results were impressive... such clients (as we call them here) had an impressive boost to their energy level in just a couple of days... without us even asking them why? or how? or when? where they depressed.... behavioral psychology and it's cousin NLP can be applied to every path of life, and women is just one application.... thanks for your time.... hope you learnt something... btw don't call me kid, unless you are 80 years old!! lol I'm 43 ok?! (and i'm getting laid more than you and crazykid together)

I will show everyone that you are a coward? why don't you put this new thread to sticky and along with a poll let everyone type in what he thinks of you and crazykid or you are as I think....AFRAID?!!!!! TOO AFRAID OF GETTING OUT?!!! AFRAID OF THE DARK?!!!!
 

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Fanatizmu, just out of curiosity - your grammar and spelling aren't anywhere near that of a clinical psychologists... that is, unless you earned your degree through a community college? What's your name? Where'd you get your degree from? What clinic is it that you work(ed) at?

By the way, as for what you've been saying, it's completely inaccurate and there really is no point at all in your continued trolling. A real psychologist would realize that what you're doing is rooted in insecurity and call it quits, that is, if he ever even started in the first place - which is highly unlikely. I suppose that next, you'll be telling me that I can't get any girls, either... :rolleyes:

By the way - if you want a poll, go ahead and make one. Just be sure to do it in "Anything Else"...

Oh, and another thing... has anybody thought to do a search on his IP and see what other usernames are associated with it here on this forum?
 

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I forward to have this thread closed on the case of extreme stupifity and the building of a flame war.

I agree with The Bishop... He really doesn't seem to bring any proof just rants.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by fanatizmu
[Bthanks for your time.... hope you learnt something... btw don't call me kid, unless you are 80 years old!! lol I'm 43 ok?! (and i'm getting laid more than you and crazykid together)
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Damn, 43 and still haven't learned any manners. I thought by now, you would know it disrepectful to make a thread bashing other people.

Also, Like to make a note you saying your getting laid more then other people is like me inviting a women over and telling her she going to have fun.
 

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Originally posted by fanatizmu
i have been on this board for quite some time now and I have come to the following conclusions on these forums :

please don't take these points personally it's just a constructive criticism.

I am a behaviorist psychologist and my job is to analyse situations and people.


i. this forum is run by moderators who have no life out of this forum. they act like they are experts on the subject when reality is that they know absolutely nothing. Most noticeably is Eternal (or crazykid as he used to call himself). This guy even admitted in one thread that he used to be/is in a long term relationship. Eternal even gave this guy a suggestion as to how to act with his gf's parents!!... come on!!!

my analysis on these moderators : I am confident that these guys in real life lack the potential to be real don juans due to the fact that they are shy and have an extremely low self esteem, so they are looking for Safe ways to channel this lack and need for action, however they cannot get this urge from reality and are channeling it in here thru their acquired positions of power they are acting like mentors when in fact they understand absolutely nothing due to the lack of real-life experience.


ii. being a don juan is all a state of mind, and only a few people on this board seem to have it. people like lost in translation and xbitz (and of course me LOL) possess it. others like player supreme and eternal definetely lack it, take a look at the replies they give, definetely they lack real-life experience.

ii You cannot be a don juan or playboy without having knowledge of how human psychology works. in these threads I have only seen some distorted facts on psychology, no statistics whatsoever I ever saw that mentioned anything about psychology and how people think, all where inaccurate facts based only on what i call pop-psychology definetely of no scientific value..

iii. have you ever heard of sigmund freud? this all-time great psychologist wrote lots of books on humans and psychology, and spent all his life-time analysing humans. he is considered to be the father of psychology. in his last book just before dying he stated.... "I have spent all my life studying men... the only fact i cannot understand is women'

so how can you claim that you know women? we have to take this process and chunk it in parts, so for example the forums should be placed in titles like 'the pick-up process' 'how to sleep with women' 'the one-night stand' etc. and examine principles that fit the model.

I urge allen thompson to stop allowing such moderators from taking over this forum and to let people express themselves better and to stop giving stupid comments to each and every thread.

apart from that all, let me tell you the answer to the question "what women want?" according to me.... "women want everything that they cannot have, once they have it, it's value diminishes in their eyes" that's the rule we must abide with when picking up women.
This is so obviously a wind up, I don't know why anyone is bothering arguing with this nob-head. You're about as much a psychologist as I am a martian, you stupid c*nt.
 

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I will show everyone that you are a coward? why don't you put this new thread to sticky and along with a poll let everyone type in what he thinks of you and crazykid
Why don't you spend some time proving what is wrong with DJism and showing us how to improve it and have 100% of the women we want. It would be a lot more benificial then to just complain.

There are dreamers and doers.
 

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Empty vessels creak loudest.
 

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I don't see how anyone can complain about people spending too much time on these forums when HE ONLY REGISTERED THIS MORNING AND ALREADY HAS 9 POSTS!

It's obvious he's just sitting here refreshing the forum trying to respond to his nice little flame bait.

So far I haven't seen anything that qualifies as psychology or science on this thread. Just a couple of case studies straight out of a behavioral psych textbook, a couple of bullsh!t correlational assertions, and a whole lot of "LOL".

I'm waiting. :p
 

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